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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:14 pm


Naa its because having unique eyes make the character. I mean look at it this way. Whats the first thing a person notices if you have a doujutsu your eyes they make you look cool. (slaps self) I mean yea what black n white said. xp

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On a side note I have no problem with doujutsu as long as it makes since. However it seems to be one of the most wanted things when it comes to the world of naruto.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:22 pm


Hahaha my point has been proven!! mrgreen Although I do consider the idea of adding a doujutsu for my clan. But if I'm going to do such a thing its going to be severly limited. The only thing that doujutsu, if I decide to have one, will be used and meant for is only increased sight. Kinda like the Hyuga clan except the ability to see people's chakra network.

But the chances of doing something like that are slim for me, I'll just stick with what I have for now, and see where this goes for me...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:24 pm


Rofl. Because it seem cool...? And Black, increased sight is already taken (Hatsuchi wind arrow clan). I think they'll need it more than you, as they are archers.

I'm aiming at a Hyouton clan modelled very different than Rachel's Nin/Gen combination. Mine's going to be even more clearly Nin/Fuuin ties. By Fuuin, it's not going to be a complete mastery into that field but a combination system of sorts. Like, using a Hyouton technique from above and then with the reverse-Fuuin ability, the "Wind" portion of Hyouton is sealed, turning the ice immediately into water and swamping the land. I think a lot of potential combos can be done with spontaneous water -> ice or reverse transformation. Could be fun.

That way stuff such as Balance can be effectively incorporated, as well as allowing a multitude of ways to trap the opponent and more effectively use Suiton without a source (following Fubuki's special chakra being able to more effectively cool water in the surroundings/create ice). Kind of like a secondary method of drawing water from the atmosphere but at a fractioned chakra cost.

And course we'll want desert-territorial effects to apply post time-skip. Though, assuming, that probably would go into the Jutsu section...

So I'm kind of aiming for that for all clan revamps (of older clans). We want stuff that makes sense, not just going together randomly because "it seemed cool to have this and that". xP Fubuki is the only original clan I made, but after Kouri had seen several versions, I think I'll feel a lot better to make their Jutsus flow rather than aiming for a different set of abilities. =)
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:32 pm


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Hahaha my point has been proven!! mrgreen Although I do consider the idea of adding a doujutsu for my clan. But if I'm going to do such a thing its going to be severly limited. The only thing that doujutsu, if I decide to have one, will be used and meant for is only increased sight. Kinda like the Hyuga clan except the ability to see people's chakra network.

But the chances of doing something like that are slim for me, I'll just stick with what I have for now, and see where this goes for me...

Their is only so much you can do with eye based jutsu it usually starts getting a little redundant.

AS for clans and jutsu most people dont realize normally in naruto a character has a specific field they speclize in. A genjutsu type has very little ninjutsu and vice verse the senju were the only clan other then Uchiha who broke this rule and supposedly their Spoiler* Be related to the sage of 6 paths. Spoiler*

I also am a little disappointed seeing the Uzumaki clan baned in this guild I understand the reason for it. ninja Its just they were the Fuuinjutsu jutsu based clan.

Edit: Agree on the clan revamps when I was looking though the list a few weeks ago it was a little sad seeing just how many custom clans that are not being used now and very much in need of some revamping just an outside thought on that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:38 pm


I don't think Uzumaki's ban is lifting unless the guild decides to bring bijuus/a Jinchuuriki system. Maybe for a future plot, it might be possible but...for the moment, there's no plans for Rikudo's clan, Uzumaki, bijuu/Jinchuurikis, or even the Senjutsu arts. In fact, there's even no plans to finish out Uchiha's technique list. In short...

Do you guys have a good way to bring a balanced version? It's going to be quite the Herculean task. In fact, I daresay balancing Rinnegan is downright impossible...Uzumaki might make it, bijuus/jinchuuriki "potentially"...Senjutsu a veeeeery slim chance, as some aspects of it is pretty ridiculous to swallow. As for Uchihas...

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Let's not go there. Kamui might make it as it's as slow a technique as Amataretsu but...Susanoo...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 12:48 pm


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I don't think Uzumaki's ban is lifting unless the guild decides to bring bijuus/a Jinchuuriki system. Maybe for a future plot, it might be possible but...for the moment, there's no plans for Rikudo's clan, Uzumaki, bijuu/Jinchuurikis, or even the Senjutsu arts. In fact, there's even no plans to finish out Uchiha's technique list. In short...

Do you guys have a good way to bring a balanced version? It's going to be quite the Herculean task. In fact, I daresay balancing Rinnegan is downright impossible...Uzumaki might make it, bijuus/jinchuuriki "potentially"...Senjutsu a veeeeery slim chance, as some aspects of it is pretty ridiculous to swallow. As for Uchihas...

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Let's not go there. Kamui might make it as it's as slow a technique as Amataretsu but...Susanoo...

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As I said I understood why Uzumaki was baned. biggrin ((maybe I jsut like the long life span xd ))

I would never want rinegain ever to come to exist. No! Player controlled deserves that power I dont care what awesome story excuses could be made thats a plot device and should only be used as such.

same with Susanoo (ugh the thought makes my head hurt)

Bijuu are pretty much plot as well and could never really see giving a player controlled ether from my personal thoughts.

So most part agree with you. biggrin

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:02 pm


Btw, originally I was playing with the idea of "Senju being short-lived" but now it seems even nicer to go along with the "cousin clan being long-lived" business. =d Setting up a yin-yang contrast of sorts?

Same. Soul stealing, moon making...what else isn't there...? Let's leave Rikudo as he is -> a legend.

Lolz. The probability of a successful headache is more likely than making an acceptable version of Susanoo. On a general Mankeryou note, though, it's a small thing to be grateful for that there's the Hell restriction on obtaining it. Uchiha population is thankfully tiny, as well...

The thing about bijuus that I see a possibility for (once disagreed entirely with the idea) is the more recent revelation that the chakra given really isn't infinity (thanks to Killer Bee and several other bijuus). That's why that, plus Sage Arts (originally when it first came out it was theorized nature just provides the chakra for techniques). If it isn't infinite, then that assumption can probably be made for temporary stat bonuses as well. Like a more intense Hachimon form, I assume, and leaving the user with a similar permanent dent as Creation Rebirth does.

On a note of bijuu abilities itself...I see an opportunity for people to be given a real incentive in exploring a certain field. And stick with it, since it is advantageous to their own technique arsenal (due to the bijuu).

As for the distribution among players...well. Probably follow along the same strict guidelines for famous clans/restricted limits. But anyways. I don't see bijuus happening anytime soon. It's until the Crew runs out of plot ideas that something that desperate would be happening. xD And let's hope that doesn't happen, since it'll probably mean Wotn is in a really, really bad state.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:05 pm


Well the Uzumaki, Uchiha, and Senju clans are banned for others reasons besides their abilities and skills. They are also banned so they don't undo originality. The entire naruto storyline for the manga is based on these three clans. Yeah there are also other clans and such added into it but if you break it all down these three clans are the main headline to it all. If we add these clans to the guild, then all that woud happen is people would be making charries in these clans than making a original one. This is a guild based on originality, creativity, and balance. Bringing these clans into the mix will only make the guild unbalanced with no originality and creativity. So as far I'm concerned, I prefer to keep them banned.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:14 pm


Actually that senju short lived think could very much make since. In my opinion. Only thing is the 1st hokage married a uzumaki.

As for the bijuu never thought of it like that and that could actuly work in my mind. ((was in a guild trying to use bijuu before how it worked was each tail the biju had increased your chakra pool and respective stats increased how ever it also drained you health away. The 9 tail having all 9 out would like kill you in three or 4 posts if you weren't careful.))
Note: distribution failed even then and balancing was a huge problem.

Another cool thing was the cursed seal which you had to make the literal survive chance if you wanted it on a dice roll failed the roll you died made very few want to take that sort of risk. wink
Note: This actully worked out better then most would of thought and had few problems with it.

However lets try to avoid any plots involving creating a ten tailed beast and subjugating the world by using the moon. cool


Sage arts I wasn't even going to touch that subject. lol
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:19 pm


The entire Naruto manga isn't based on three clans. It's based on the concept/secrets of kekkai genkai, Hijutsu arts (for Uzumaki is definitely no kekkai carrier), and several special field of ninja arts (Time/Space being a real biggie recently). Mostly mystery on where Kekkai came from, development of Shinobi Jutsu, and giving some perspective into different kekkai classes (Doujutsu, Elemental Creation, Physical/Form Manipulation). Those stuff don't come out of nowhere.

In fact, regarding fields themselves...people didn't even pay Fuuin much attention until Senju/Uzumaki started showing the real weight of that field and people disregarded Genjutsu originally, until Uchiha gave that field spotlight. People just assumed bijuu sealing is something able to be done by anyone, but the real delicacy came in the form/capability of the seal master.

If you want complete originality, nothing under the sun is original. I rather have Sharingan rather than some random crap that "reflects" Sharingan. Wotn wouldn't be a Naruto guild, then. It would be a random Ninja-verse that had no need for the already presented culture/lifestyles of certain villages, no regard for the past Shinobi world wars, and etc.

Actually, with as many "bad" clans we see, we see incredibly good ones, too. People didn't die unable to make anything, apparently, as customs remain alive and well to this day. And as long as you never read through both crap and good things, Black, I doubt you can honestly say you'll prefer a "Sharingan copy" rather than just Sharingan.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:22 pm


I would like to see Bijuu's implemented into the game. And I really wouldn't make them much different than normal players... Just give them like... 50% chakra regeneration when resting and give them like a second wind option (Referring to the D&D 3.5 Feat "Second Wind) Where your character can still battle despite being in the negatives but have to make continued stability checks in order to continue on. I don't think that would be a problem. And as a negative you could implement a Mental Health struggle. Where the GM decides. "Hey... This scene here is pretty tramatising. Make a MPh check. If you fail, lose 5 points of MPh." and if the Bijuu user falls down to 1 MPh. They become controlled by the bijuu and basically have to captured or killed in order for the character to recover. E.G. being when Naruto watched Sasuke pass out (looked like he died) when they were fighting Haku. OH! and to snap out of it they have to make a critical success (20)

Idk that's my idea of how it should work. anyway On the subject of clans. Would anyone like to go to the Clans, Jutsu, Weapons, and Bloodlines Sub Forum and check out the Mochimi Clan page? I've been working really hard on it. But after reading the last 2 pages in this topic I am afraid of my clan not meeting everyone's expectations. (Please note. I'm still developing jutsu) sweatdrop


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:24 pm


I feel so pathetic im trying to understand the game system and im beyond lost, i even tried reading it again and even looked at posts in the Rp to understand... Ah well i cant give up yet! perseverance scream

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:27 pm


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I feel so pathetic im trying to understand the game system and im beyond lost, i even tried reading it again and even looked at posts in the Rp to understand... Ah well i cant give up yet! perseverance scream
Best suggestion I ever got was from cheer. Just go through the step by step character creation thread. Find a village you want to be in pm the kage you would like to join with your rough character idea.

The system is a lot to swallow its best to just go through the rp and try to do it as best you can in practice. The Crew will help you out if you make a mistake and in time you will understand it through practice.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:28 pm


Yin voidblade
Actually that senju short lived think could very much make since. In my opinion. Only thing is the 1st hokage married a uzumaki.

As for the bijuu never thought of it like that and that could actuly work in my mind. ((was in a guild trying to use bijuu before how it worked was each tail the biju had increased your chakra pool and respective stats increased how ever it also drained you health away. The 9 tail having all 9 out would like kill you in three or 4 posts if you weren't careful.))
Note: distribution failed even then and balancing was a huge problem.

Another cool thing was the cursed seal which you had to make the literal survive chance if you wanted it on a dice roll failed the roll you died made very few want to take that sort of risk. wink
Note: This actully worked out better then most would of thought and had few problems with it.

However lets try to avoid any plots involving creating a ten tailed beast and subjugating the world by using the moon. cool


Sage arts I wasn't even going to touch that subject. lol


Hmn...I am in a D. Gray Man guild which tried incorporating some sort of system for Innocence and Noahs. Particularly problematic is setting up "games" for Rhode, so that people can get out of her technique. Basically, if a guild isn't d20 to start with, it's harder to use systems.

Shodai's just one guy, though. Senju today is rather resurfacing of Senju blood in the descendants of those whom married into Konoha and dropped the name/title originally. Konoha hunting down and "cultivating" until they were able to recreate the Senju clan (estimated about 100 years ago that there are finally enough people to be considered a clan) leaves the new Senjus with kind of...nothing to start with.

They're probably longer-lived compared to the original in respect to not being "pureblood" Senju but for a clan that focuses on transforming life energies...having to rebuild an arsenal from scratch probably cost the present Senju clan dearly. And since the village is trying hard to make sure the bloodline doesn't thin out...that doesn't do wonders for the children of the next generation either. Thus Senju remains short-lived. ;3

Crazy moon plan? You're talking about that psycho who thinks he's Uchiha Madara, yeees? Let's not talk about him. I'm still very mad at him for what he did to Naruto. That parent robbing freak...

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 30, 2010 1:31 pm


Yin is right. The most complicated thing for members joining any D20 game for their first time, is building their characters and not understanding why their weapon does 1d8+1 or understand the importance of the ability mods. The thing is, everyone can make a character. But they wont understand the game till they apply it with their character. If that made any sense... sweatdrop
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