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problematic briefcase Crew
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 Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:59 pm
Owwin In The Kitchen Owwin Zephyrkitty I'm already on his target list anyway from the sounds of it. Not like arguing with him can make it any worse. We just have to have a counter plot. Something scarier. Something only a rational person can come up with. A Xanatos Gambit. It is a plot that was made to trick the opponent. Like lets say. I unleashed a monster into Manhattan and all clues gave the conclusion that the only way to stop this monster was to feed it a rose and banish it into another dimension. My opponent does so, but doesn't realize that they banished it into a dimension contained within an amulet I had giving me all of the monster's powers. I then use the power to do some other bigger thing.
Ooohh.
I don't think I have the ability to write a plot with that kind of complexity for a villain with some kind of complex, who hates beauty and s**t not being fun.
Although, I originally had an idea for this story that had werewolves start a fight between vampires and meta humans so they could attack the humans while there was no one protecting them.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:59 pm
otawara Wantcookie otawara The Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Billy and Mandy, KND, Foster's, and Evil con Carne will always have a special place in my heart. :3 KND bugged me for some reason. I never understood why. xd Fosters was pretty good most of the time. Johnny Brovo, Dexter's Lab and the Powerpuff Girls are pretty much my childhood. xd But I will always love Freakazoid. I HATE Ed, Edd, and Eddy. I dont know why. Dexter's Lab was okay, but I never got to see it so much. Dx
The only thing I hated about EE&E, is how those other cul-de-sac kids can be such dicks, especially that square-jaw Kevin. And Sarah.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:01 pm
Owwin Wantcookie otawara The Power Puff Girls, Johnny Bravo, Billy and Mandy, KND, Foster's, and Evil con Carne will always have a special place in my heart. :3 KND bugged me for some reason. I never understood why. xd Fosters was pretty good most of the time. Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, and the Powerpuff Girls are pretty much my childhood. xd But I will always love Freakazoid and Courage the Cowardly Dog the most. heart You love courage too? See my above fix'd. Cookie every time you post I am a little more gay for you. Courage was the one show that everyone in my family could agree was good. xd I absolutely loved it. heart
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:02 pm
Zephyrkitty In The Kitchen Zephyrkitty In The Kitchen
xD
Not but seriously, I want to make a character who falls into the cliche of being evil because they can't stand beauty, or routine. Either that, or they just do it because it passes the time.
"Why attack Manhattan?"
"Because it was there."
Like, their motive would be that beauty is perfection, while perfection doesn't exist, therefore the lie of perfection shouldn't exist either. Nature itself shouldn't exist because it lives the lie of being perfect for humanity, when it isn't. Not only that but practice makes perfect, and practice is routine, and routine is boring. Mundane and beautiful things deserve equal destruction.
Without the excitement of death and destruction, life itself would be boring, and therefore life is not worthy of existing.I think there's a flaw with this logic, though. You say that this villain hates boring things, and that life would be boring without death and destruction. Wouldn't the conclusion be that life ISN'T boring because of those things and therefore is fine until we discover a way to completely eliminate death? I'd also argue with this villain that something being imperfect or temporary can actually make it more "beautiful", but that's getting off-subject.
True. Although, her aim is not life's destruction, but the routine and beauty of it. Her belief is that without her, life would be meaningless. Without her actions, life would be boring mundane, and all the perfect things in life continuing to be perfect.
She thinks she's important.
There's more to this, I know. I know that's the motive, and I think the motive itself is flaw.
She herself can't be perfect while aiming to destroy what is perfect.Pride? Not acknowledging that she's part of the problem? Acknowledging that she's part of the problem, but she has some reason for not removing herself? You'd have to play around with it some more, but maybe one of those is her justification? In The Kitchen I know it's a woman.
Why hate beauty? Because she was beautiful, and she suffered because of it. ...I'm making the ''he' is technically gender-neutral' argument. sweatdrop Suffering for beauty? If it's the Mary Sue, 'so beautiful it's a curse'-style suffering, I'll hunt her down and shoot her myself. mad
No it's more of a victim complex. She started to destroy her looks, and noticed that her own destruction was pretty fun, especially the reactions from others. -> If that was fun, breaking more things, and making nice things ugly should be just as fun.
Suffering for beauty as in; would you rape the ugly girl down the street, or the somewhat better looking girl across the street?
I think I'm going all over the place with this. p: She thinks she's the solution, and the actions of the solution shouldn't affect the person doing the fixing.
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problematic briefcase Crew
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problematic briefcase Crew
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:10 pm
I'm thinking the motive changes over time.
From; I'm a victim and I think other people should suffer because of it -> ruining the things people like is fun. Destroying the treasures of a country is almost the same as rounding up a couple children and shooting them in front of the parents. It's exciting.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:12 pm
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:15 pm
I saw it once and never touched it again. xd
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:15 pm
Wantcookie Courage was the one show that everyone in my family could agree was good. xd I absolutely loved it. heart Eustace, Fusili. Kats, Fred, Le Quack, The Butcher, the list just goes on. DiL
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:23 pm
You guys ever see that Rayman cartoon? The best place to see what little there is of it is on Youtube.
The same guy that voiced Stimpy voiced the limbless wonder.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:24 pm
Wantcookie I saw it once and never touched it again. xd
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problematic briefcase Crew
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:29 pm
In The Kitchen Wantcookie I saw it once and never touched it again. xd Oh goodness, I hated that one.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:30 pm
Owwin Wantcookie Courage was the one show that everyone in my family could agree was good. xd I absolutely loved it. heart Eustace, Fusili. Kats, Fred, Le Quack, The Butcher, the list just goes on. DiL Katz. heart
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:31 pm
Wantcookie Owwin Wantcookie Courage was the one show that everyone in my family could agree was good. xd I absolutely loved it. heart Eustace, Fusili. Kats, Fred, Le Quack, The Butcher, the list just goes on. DiL Katz. heart It ends with a z? FUUUUUUUUUUUUU! Oh well. I want a DVD of that.
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:32 pm
In The Kitchen Zephyrkitty In The Kitchen Zephyrkitty In The Kitchen
xD
Not but seriously, I want to make a character who falls into the cliche of being evil because they can't stand beauty, or routine. Either that, or they just do it because it passes the time.
"Why attack Manhattan?"
"Because it was there."
Like, their motive would be that beauty is perfection, while perfection doesn't exist, therefore the lie of perfection shouldn't exist either. Nature itself shouldn't exist because it lives the lie of being perfect for humanity, when it isn't. Not only that but practice makes perfect, and practice is routine, and routine is boring. Mundane and beautiful things deserve equal destruction.
Without the excitement of death and destruction, life itself would be boring, and therefore life is not worthy of existing.I think there's a flaw with this logic, though. You say that this villain hates boring things, and that life would be boring without death and destruction. Wouldn't the conclusion be that life ISN'T boring because of those things and therefore is fine until we discover a way to completely eliminate death? I'd also argue with this villain that something being imperfect or temporary can actually make it more "beautiful", but that's getting off-subject.
True. Although, her aim is not life's destruction, but the routine and beauty of it. Her belief is that without her, life would be meaningless. Without her actions, life would be boring mundane, and all the perfect things in life continuing to be perfect.
She thinks she's important.
There's more to this, I know. I know that's the motive, and I think the motive itself is flaw.
She herself can't be perfect while aiming to destroy what is perfect.Pride? Not acknowledging that she's part of the problem? Acknowledging that she's part of the problem, but she has some reason for not removing herself? You'd have to play around with it some more, but maybe one of those is her justification? In The Kitchen I know it's a woman.
Why hate beauty? Because she was beautiful, and she suffered because of it. ...I'm making the ''he' is technically gender-neutral' argument. sweatdrop Suffering for beauty? If it's the Mary Sue, 'so beautiful it's a curse'-style suffering, I'll hunt her down and shoot her myself. mad
No it's more of a victim complex. She started to destroy her looks, and noticed that her own destruction was pretty fun, especially the reactions from others. -> If that was fun, breaking more things, and making nice things ugly should be just as fun.
Suffering for beauty as in; would you rape the ugly girl down the street, or the somewhat better looking girl across the street?
I think I'm going all over the place with this. p: She thinks she's the solution, and the actions of the solution shouldn't affect the person doing the fixing.Neither. I don't find rape sexy. /completely missing the point Being serious, I don't see a problem with those justifications, although the first definitely implies her having some sort of mental disorder.
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Sharkbutt The Orgiastic Crew
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Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:32 pm
Owwin Wantcookie Owwin Wantcookie Courage was the one show that everyone in my family could agree was good. xd I absolutely loved it. heart Eustace, Fusili. Kats, Fred, Le Quack, The Butcher, the list just goes on. DiL Katz. heart It ends with a z? FUUUUUUUUUUUUU! Oh well. I want a DVD of that. Is there one out? It never occurred to me to get one. xd
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