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Gregar828
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:07 pm


Do you two mean no U/C submissions for Submitters, approvers, or both. Cause I'm all for it, I just wanna know what for.
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:10 pm


I just dont like people posting incomplete applications, and they saying something like "not done, will edit later". I mean you don't turn a paper into your teacher half written and say "will write more later"

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Hinote Tosatsu
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 4:16 pm


What he said. Judges doing it is fine, cause that's just working gradually through things. But the applicant doing it just makes it annoying.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:38 pm


Is there a limit on custom Technology?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:44 pm


That question was answered a few pages back.

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I'm sorry, let me rephrase the question:

Is there a cap for the amount of technology I'm allowed to have?

Gregar828
Not a defined cap, no, but we'll have to stop you if it starts getting ridiculous.
PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 1:54 pm


I vaugely remembered that, but I thought it was asking about Jutsu.

Thank you very much.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:37 am


Query: The Hidden mist technique is overflowing with infused chakra within water molecules correct?

Query: So why do we allow people with the sharingan to see through it?

Resource: I looked up the jutsu on Naruto-wiki and it explains and even shows an instance where Itachi himself cannot see through the technique because it in its entirety simply looks like a block of Kisame's chakra. However, the Byakugan can in fact see through the technique, and I'd gather the Ranmaru bloodline based on the fact that it's so similar to the byakugan in nature. Not only this, but it is listed as a D-rank jutsu which honestly I agree with given the fact that it's simply a supplementary technique. Furthermore, the user is able to thicken and thin the mist at WILL in order to conceal his/her intentions. I think that ability as well should be something which grows with rank. I would agree however that the mist vision technique itself should remain a jounin ranked ability because quite frankly, if the sharingan can't see through it I don't think it should be a jutsu lower than jounin rank.

Proposition: However, I do think that it should be modified so that the user can see through their OWN hidden mist technique because quite frankly, it's useless to blind both yourself and the opponent.

Proposition: So......we should probably change this cause to be honest, there isn't a lot (if any) jutsu out there that make anything difficult for a sharingan user. And I'd even go so far as to say that with each rank up to sannin/kage, it is capable of distorting another level of the sharingan. Say if a chunin used it against someone with mangekyou(though I'd probably put it at third tomoe), the sharingan user would be able to make out the full form of the individual in a brighter/darker chakra color.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:00 am


I like. You should engage your VC powarz and make it so!

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Kibi Yonin

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:45 am


@Luo
I don't know, Even Zabuza couldn't see through his own mist. He had to rely only on his hearing and smell to find Kakashi. Kakashi was only able to respond to this because of his sharingan, and the fact that whenever Zabuza closed in on him on the bridge he'd thin the mist out so that Kakashi could see his shadow coming.

The hidden mist technique is supposed to blind everyone, including yourself. It is mainly used by the Kirigakure black ops. The ones trained in silent killing, where they don't need sight to find their opponent, and can use sound to guage their opponent's size, and location. Only thing is, clones would be a pain to fight after using hidden mist jutsu.

But then again, I'm only a basically brand new member so I don't expect my opinion to matter much. Besides, we are a Naruto based guild, not Naruto itself.

Question:
Is there even a Silent Kill style of fighting? (The one referenced by Zabuza)
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 10:57 am


Re-read for some edits put in over a break from the laptop.

But yeah, I mean it isn't something that isn't feasible to to do, and there's obviously a reason it's one of Kiri's most famous techniques. It's not there just to cause the effect of, "Oh great, fog. Lemme just pop on the old doujutsu and...Oh, there you are! You are so stupid trying to use that technique. And what's worse, you aren't even at a rank to see through your own jutsu! So in all actuality, this works out in my benefit, or the sheer irony!"

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Kibi Yonin

PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:05 am


The dojutsu should still not be able to see through it, I'm more saying the user shouldn't be able to. Even with a separate jutsu for that matter. They can easily just thin the mist and find someone's shadow if they aren't going to learn the Silent Kill style.

And I'm not too sure, but the fact that only Zabuza, and Kisame were shown to use it from Kirigakure, leads me to think that it is used mainly only by people who can find you without needing sight. (Kakashi on one occasion I think.)

Doujutsu shouldn't be able to see through it, and neither should the user or anyone else, even with a separate jutsu. That is my opinion, and I don't feel like delving in deeper into a discussion on it because the actual info on it is somewhat scarce.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:08 am


A little clarification I'd like to toss in. The Ranmaru bloodline would be able to see through it, because as far as I recall, it doesn't look for chakra. Rather, it is simply X-Ray vision, and would see the opponent as a blob of life energy, which is different from chakra.

The Byakugan, I don't think would be able to see through it, because it does see chakra, and would be unable to see through the chakra saturation. But then, that's just my assumption. I don't honestly know much about Byakugan.

I do support the ideas you put forth though. You should probably bring it to the crew chat and we can iron it out there with the crew, along with any similar jutsu of the sort. I know I made a sand jutsu that allows you to see through sand, with the limitation being that you can't see through chakra saturated sand from someone's jutsu. The conflicting chakra sources in these techniques wouldn't allow it as I see it. Though doujutsu do work a bit differently than that.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:14 am


Kibi Yonin
@Luo
I don't know, Even Zabuza couldn't see through his own mist. He had to rely only on his hearing and smell to find Kakashi. Kakashi was only able to respond to this because of his sharingan, and the fact that whenever Zabuza closed in on him on the bridge he'd thin the mist out so that Kakashi could see his shadow coming.

The hidden mist technique is supposed to blind everyone, including yourself. It is mainly used by the Kirigakure black ops. The ones trained in silent killing, where they don't need sight to find their opponent, and can use sound to guage their opponent's size, and location. Only thing is, clones would be a pain to fight after using hidden mist jutsu.

But then again, I'm only a basically brand new member so I don't expect my opinion to matter much. Besides, we are a Naruto based guild, not Naruto itself.

Question:
Is there even a Silent Kill style of fighting? (The one referenced by Zabuza)


Your opinion sir, in FACT matters, every opinion does, that's why I posted it here instead of in the crew forum for only the crew to see!

But as I said in my post, it is in fact supposed to have the ability to be thickened and thinned by the shinobi in question. However, as you stated and as we've said time and time again, we are not Naruto, but a Naruto-like guild. I mean, it's just sort of a bum-wrap to confuse not only yourself, but potential teammates as well. Think of it this way: You're sent on a mission to assassinate someone with a three-man team. Your suiton using squad mate uses the jutsu. Now, you can't see, and not only that but because he can't figure out where you are in the thick of it all, he can't thin the mist for you to see either, not to mention the chakra toll that would take on a genin.

While yes this would still be a problem for anyone without the mist vision technique and to be honest some creative maneuvers can be made to try and at the most alleviate the problem, the technique exists so that suiton users can in fact aid teammates in their own hidden mist technique and control how thick/thin it is around them to control the flow of battle in their favor. At least, I'd figure a hunter-nin would work like that.

And technically, there is no style like that....mentioned in detail in Naruto. Here however, the original captain of this guild and I create the silent blade weapon style used for hunter-nin in fact. It's a pretty cool style to be honest.
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:14 am


Then Ranmaru could fairly well see through it, seeing as they have "X-Ray" vision.

Also, what would that technique do to a chakra sensor Clan/Bloodline?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2011 11:21 am


Kibi Yonin
The dojutsu should still not be able to see through it, I'm more saying the user shouldn't be able to. Even with a separate jutsu for that matter. They can easily just thin the mist and find someone's shadow if they aren't going to learn the Silent Kill style.

And I'm not too sure, but the fact that only Zabuza, and Kisame were shown to use it from Kirigakure, leads me to think that it is used mainly only by people who can find you without needing sight. (Kakashi on one occasion I think.)

Doujutsu shouldn't be able to see through it, and neither should the user or anyone else, even with a separate jutsu. That is my opinion, and I don't feel like delving in deeper into a discussion on it because the actual info on it is somewhat scarce.

Hmmm, now making it a requirement for Kiri-nin to learn how to fight blind would be interesting I do admit. I'll certainly take that into consideration, and think on the mist-vision technique itself. Although I'm not going to lie, I do favor it being in existence if anything for other villages with suiton users. Not every village afterall would be training their students to fight blind, it would be one of those village specialty type deals.

Thanks for your input Kibi.
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