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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:30 pm


oh, and don't forget about diffcult terrain. A charging korn marine into difficult terrain will lose their initiative advantage in close combat.

This way even if a Grey Knights player has horrible shooting or the Korne player has amazing bloodrage rolls, they can make up for the shortfalls by making sure the Korne player at least fights with a lower or equal initiative due to cover.

In the end it really falls down to the individual players strategems and luck.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:36 am


does no one read what i posted properly or are you really all that stupid, i have said every time so far that this is what ive lernt by playing korne and thats what its weekness are, i said that it will tell you the same in a GW tactia AS WELL not that it is all ive ever used, besides why would i use a GW tactica to beat my own army rolleyes

secondly, im not assueming i will always get to charge i said before that im more likley to get the charge but never once said i always will, what i did say was the best defence is to expect they are going to charge you

thirdly as said before, what korne player who knows he may not be able to control thier charge doesnt give thier units frag greanades

fourthly your putting to much faith into massed bolter fire against non marine armies yeah thats a godsend but aggainst marines bolters quite often mean jack s**t, forget about the maths and do the rolls your self because dice rarely obey the laws of probabilty and you will see how affective bolters are, yes they will take out some but if you arnt careful with the combats you are still going to get raped.

all i have been trying to do was give an all rounded advice that can be adpated for any situation, by any player wethere they knew what they were doing properly or not, everyone else just assuemd that the person knew they had to combine charges from the start, if you follwed your origanal advice to the letter of what you said you would of lost because there was no supporting it was just shoot for 2 turns and let them charge you how they wanted

menoftanith


Drachyench

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:21 pm


ReddXX

Also, are you even sure that anything in a Khorne squad but the Aspiring Champion can take furious charge?


Anything that can have at least one Aspiring Champion can be given to the whole squad. The only thing is Tzeentch cannot take any Vet Skills, and any other marked army can take only one skill per squad. Still, a whole Khorne Squad can take charge.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:49 pm


Oh yeah, I have one BIG thing to point out that almost everyone forgets, BASIC greyknights DON'T have powerweapons. Only on Justicars and Higher does the Nemesis blade become a Power Weapon. Thus, 3 Power-Weapon, and 17 Non-Power Weapon attacks per basic squad of Greyknights, assuming a basic 'knight has the specialist weapon. That leads to a total of 2 Kills on average from the Justicar on anything WS4 or less, and at most(Assuming Grey Knight always has the favor in odds) 4 Kills. Sure, that's a lot, but I won't tell you how many GK players at my GW think EVERYONES Nemesis Blade is a Powerweapon...

Drachyench


Reddemon

PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:22 pm


Drachyench_The_Eternal
Oh yeah, I have one BIG thing to point out that almost everyone forgets, BASIC greyknights DON'T have powerweapons. Only on Justicars and Higher does the Nemesis blade become a Power Weapon. Thus, 3 Power-Weapon, and 17 Non-Power Weapon attacks per basic squad of Greyknights, assuming a basic 'knight has the specialist weapon. That leads to a total of 2 Kills on average from the Justicar on anything WS4 or less, and at most(Assuming Grey Knight always has the favor in odds) 4 Kills. Sure, that's a lot, but I won't tell you how many GK players at my GW think EVERYONES Nemesis Blade is a Powerweapon...
How many? 3,4?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:55 pm


Reddemon
Drachyench_The_Eternal
Oh yeah, I have one BIG thing to point out that almost everyone forgets, BASIC greyknights DON'T have powerweapons. Only on Justicars and Higher does the Nemesis blade become a Power Weapon. Thus, 3 Power-Weapon, and 17 Non-Power Weapon attacks per basic squad of Greyknights, assuming a basic 'knight has the specialist weapon. That leads to a total of 2 Kills on average from the Justicar on anything WS4 or less, and at most(Assuming Grey Knight always has the favor in odds) 4 Kills. Sure, that's a lot, but I won't tell you how many GK players at my GW think EVERYONES Nemesis Blade is a Powerweapon...
How many? 3,4?

No, out of about 9 or 10 Grey Knight users at my GW, only one has never tried to claim their basic weapons are not Power Weapons. So 8 is more correct.

Drachyench


Daicon

PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:31 pm


Anyways, since the bickering seems to have finally ended, I'd like to know what kind of models people like to field in their armies? How do you customize them to give them that 'special' touch?

I'm not really big on conversions, but I've done a bit for my army. I took a sword blade from the Warhammer High Elves range to customize my Grand Master, gave him a type of two-bladed nemesis force sword. Don't have any picture, but he's not exactly painted yet anyways, so, I'll get around to getting him on here when I make sure he's not pewter grey anymore.
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:16 pm


As far as the fight goes, menoftanith, if you were to look back on your later posts you would notice you said things such as "All the Khorne Berzerkerz are getting double the attacks." and "All the KB are getting at 3+ wound, and a higher initiative." All these things would infact be assuming that you are charging stare Please check yourself before you call anyone else stupid. However, this fight is going in circles and comes down to one thing. The better tactician. (Also, I'm aware that all Grey Knights do not have power weapons, anyone not on "dumb" problaby is aware of that.

Anyway, Daicon I have been thinking about some heavy customization on my Grand Master, and other favourites. However, I have no idea how to work with pewter, it never glues right, it's always bending and breaking, any suggestions please?

Vinnicius


MrToad

PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:14 pm


Call me a Neophyte, but does anyone ever wonder why the Inquisition Ordos (Ordae?) use the things they hate? I mean, how come Daemonhunters don't use Xenos and Alien Hunters use Daemons, at least, instead of the other way around? Isnt that more logical?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:59 pm


Yeah, pewter models can really be a b***h and a half to work with, combine that with the drastic increase in price from a plastic miniature and you have my reasons for disliking the substance.

My main advice is to use very fine tools, or be very careful with what you have. Get some good super glue as well, none of the crap that games workshop will sell you, as any join that isn't perfect will not hold. I tend to work with combinations of green stuff and superglue on all my pewter, as it holds them together perfectly.

Patience is also a virtue. I've spent fifteen minutes with a small hammer, chisle and very fine exacto knife just to remove and reshap the end of the hilts on nemesis force swords, mainly because I'm no good with sculpting my green stuff... x.x;

Hope that helped a bit.

Daicon


MrToad

PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:43 pm


biggrin That's okay, guys, the dark is a nice place to be left in.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:17 pm


Sorry Mr. Toad, I meant to reply, just never got around to it.

While yes, logically speaking it would make a great deal more sense, this is GW we're talking about. They never use common sense... ever. Besides, if it were that way, we couldn't call the retarded inquisitors radical heretic scum! whee

Daicon


A.R.G.U.S Mykal

PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:31 am


I think the Ordos use what they hate, because there's a bittersweet irony in it. Like the Welsh and the English, in the case of the longbow. Welsh invention, but look who's famous for it. Look who whooped the Welsh with it.
lol
PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:57 pm


Only some Inquisitors use that at which they hate. The "Radicals" think that that is the best way to do it. Most of the other ones don't really agree with these methods, and many choose to call these "Radicals" heretics. I for one agree.

Anyway, thanks alot Daicon. I'll try some of those suggestions, although patience is a hard one, when something doesn't work I get angry pretty quick.
By the way, would you be able to suggest where you get Green stuff?

Vinnicius


Daicon

PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:23 pm


I get mine from my local hobby shop, but every and any GW store should carry some. *Shrugs* Other than Green Stuff, I find that sticky tack works wonders... so long as you paint some clear nailpolish over top of it when you're done, seeing as how it never dries out on its own.
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