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Beatriz-chan

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 1:00 am


Luo1304
Well, the way I'm looking at it is this: There are only two people within this fray capable of dispatching this technique, and they are you and Deidalus. Now, since Deidalus is in the thick of it all, how he'd go about doing it is for the most part beyond me. Your character however, is basically a ways away from Hideki, Deidalus, and Kenpachi. I'm guesstimating that by the time your bone crusher technique dispatches of my clone and you get over there, the technique will have already been released. Not only that, but you'd have to actually attempt to get in front of it to try anything to stop it, which would require basically going around the technique and in front of Deidalus with I'm guessing around 10 seconds.

Now I know you're fast (SS-rank fast to be exact if I'm correct,) but by the time you even got there, figured out just exactly how destructive the jutsu was to be (assuming you just kind of knew that it would be ridiculously destructive before it was capable of fully being released), and ran through the hand seals of any jutsu to attempt to stop it, you'd just about be out of luck. And this is also assuming that you just kind of avoided all the random lighting bolts striking the area without so much as a hitch in your movement. At least that's the way I'm seeing it.

SS-rank fast plus quick movement technique. The bone crusher technique would dispell your clone with the same speed of any solid attack, almost instantly. As for the time it would take for Kiyoko to reach Kenpachi, the guessing could vary from person to person, as there isn't a definite map and coordinates of where each RPC is standing, though what we can say for sure is that, Kiyoko was far from Hideki, as he moved away from her. But the exact distance from Kiyoko to Kenpachi or Deidalus, can possibly be smaller than the one between her and Hideki. We never stated numbers to determine the distance, so just as you could guess 10 seconds, I could say 3, 4, 5, get what I mean?
As for the ligthning bolts raining randomly, that would happen after the technique is released. After Kenpachi yelled, moved his sword to his back, began charging it and just then swung it. As for the distance between them, it was never stated either.before, and Kiyoko could easily outmatch them in terms of speed if that was needed.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:13 am


I'm not really here to argue, just state my opinion 3nodding

But Hideki and Kenpachi were next to each other before Kenpachi charged forward at Deidalus, making those two actually farther up than Hideki would be. And as I said before, you'd basically have to slingshot around and in front of the technique to stop it in some manner, and that would be assuming you knew how strong and how wide it would spread. Which in itself is almost indeterminable at such a close range considering he was using a technique that had no hand seals to begin with. So, you would have to charge forward, slingshot around, and at that very moment begin flowing through hand seals which in itself is a delay because let's face it, anything capable of stopping this attack is going to have more than five or six hand seals and no matter how fast you are, running through those eats up some sort of time. And finally, you'd have to already know just how damaging the attack would be at basically point blank range and know exactly which jutsu to chose to stop it. It would be nothing short of a miracle and telepathy to do something like that.

But time and distance is pretty difficult to determine. But I will say this; If it took my character and his clone just about eight to nine seconds to get there with his clone in order to counter Kiyoko and find Deidalus, we could assume for yours it would take what? Four to five since we'd be cutting that time in half right? I still don't see all that you have to do adding up to you being able to counter it. Especially with the creation of two shadow clones, and then they have to run through seals when they are created, and at that same time you'd be running through the mud moat seals. Time just isn't adding up here. You're fast, but shooting off three jutsu like that (Including "Soru") would be time constraining.

But again, I'm not here to argue for too long, just state my opinion.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:04 pm


Beatriz, it's his final move. By attempting to counter it you are only prolonging this fight and preventing our ninja from getting the training necessary for the chunin Exams. As it stands, Deidalus will be in the Hospital for a couple of days due to sustaining mild injuries but, if you continue, this fight could stretch for another week waiting for everyone to post. Besides, it's my turn in the posting order, so I'm going to go ahead and post and you can decide after what you are going to do.

EDIT: Furthermore you are attempting to counter a Raiton technique with a Doton Jutsu which, even with the protective seals, would not withstand an S-rank Raiton Jutsu.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:24 am


@Luo: Anyone at the scene, who had been there since Kenpachi's first attack, would be able to tell that he had been using just massive area attacks. If one had that in mind, along with the knowledge that Deidalus is weak when it comes to close ranged fighting (and that was indeed of Kiyoko's knowledge), what would that one do? Watch as Kenpachi charged forward and let him have the opportunity to use another of his destructive techniques? I don't think so.
As for the time regarding the seals, if I'm not wrong I have seen the shadow clones technique being used with just a single handsign, with the time of creation being nearly instant. The mud moat? Not, wrong jutsu you got there, earth dome and mud moat are different jutsu. The dome was created by one of the clones, not Kiyoko herself. Before I posted, I searched for the Doryuuheki, the jutsu that the mud dome comes from, and saw that the time it took for a wall about two or three times the height of a person to be risen was about 2 seconds or so. Considering that the earth being used was not produced by my RPC (The description of the jutsu doesn't mention the source of earth that has to be used at the execution of technique so that doesn't really matter here) as there was plenty to be used at the scene and so it could be performed with ease. Soru doesn't require any movement from Kiyoko's hands so it isn't time constraining, it is quite the opposite, allowing Kiyoko to speed up in order to reach her destination faster while it doesn't disable the use of her hands to perform the handsigns. I appreciate that you are expressing your opinion and I'll always have a reply with my own point of view and opinion. ^-^

@Duck: Before anything else, there is a difference between how you counter and how you attempt to stop a technique. I did not try to counter his technique, Kiyoko was not aware of how his technique would be, that was so that she had not predicted the technique also would spread upwards as it was stated in gregar's post. All she knew was that as he had been using techniques that affected a considerable area and that the possibility of him using another one was very high. It doesn't matter to me if that was his final move or not, as it would happen to any post related to my RPCs when fighting, I'll post with my reaction. It wasn't a planned event, I was not informed at least, so I won't just bow down and accept a post with such a destructive technique being used at the gates of the village as if I'm not able to react. Continuing, if you are going to tell me that a wall of earth and mud, along with the protective seals would not withstand a strong raiton jutsu as if it was nothing, I will agree with you, but you cannot say it will be useless as a form of defense agaisnt it. If you still want to use that line of thought, tell me what would happen to the wall of earth then if not crumble with the impact and fall upon the raiton technique itself. It wouldn't simply disappear as if it was nothing and let the blast through.
Also, the effects of the lightning chakra on earth elemental techniques has not completely been defined has it? I know that it is able to difuse the clay bombs, but I don't think the same would happen to each and every technique of the same element. Oh and do not forget about the description of the technique, I RP based on what is written in the description of the techniques. The protective seals' description clearly states it protects the earth wall from all types of attacks, without saying anything about that protection being unable to protect against raiton techniques. Even so, I went along with the flow of the RP and did not start an argument about that. If I did, it wouldn't be completely wrong though, as I'd be just following the description of the technique. Anyway, as prolonging the fight is not my intention, I just posted as a way to prevent further damage of the village, without attacking anyone. I hope it was noticed. If the fight was finished at that point, in order to make things faster, it should have been announced. The outcome of the battle, who was injured and who was not. Leaving it like that is just not right.

(I don't really know why but I enjoy these kind of debates, I find it interesting to get to know the opinion of others~)

Beatriz-chan

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:45 am


Seems like a buuuuuuuuunch of unneeded debate for something that is only in a side story imo.

Btw Ration justu destroy doton jutsu... In one of the flash back episodes were squad 7 are on a mission Naruto hits a guy with Rasengan and it does nothing to the enemy's protective Doton jutsu. Then later that night after the enemy nin had plenty of time to repair Saskue hits the guy with Chidory and the jutsu crumbles.

Rasengan is stronger than chidori so I think that is a pretty powerful description of how ration utterly demolish doton. I get this guild isn't the show and all but there it is.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 3:52 pm


Beatriz, I WOULD like to point out that at the bottom of my post, it very clearly states that that was my finishing move, thus implying that that is my end to the fight, so it WAS announced. I'm sorry, but I don't care how many protective seals are used, a dome of earth would not be able to stand to lightning of that magnitude. If you read my post, Kenpachi brought his sword down when he was very close to Deidalus, so if he WAS trapped in a dome of earth, he would not have swung the sword. Finally, during the whole time this was going on, you were in the middle of fighting Luo. Its not like you finished off his clone, and Kenpachi began his attack fifteen seconds afterwards, the attacks are happening simultaneously. There is no way you would have been able to defeat Luo's clone, create two Kage bunshin, make an Earth dome rise completely around a moving target and his eight foot sword, and place protective seals to strengthen the barrier, all in the time it would take Kenpachi and Deidalus to run headfirst at each other.

Please, Beatriz, we're making a big deal of this because, in the end, this is DUCK's fight. He's the one we're trying to kill, he's the one my last sword swing was intended to hit, and he's the one who is the focus of the fight. It would be best if HE were the one who came up with the way to escape the jutsu.

Plus, if you're doing the earth dome, then you've just lost one of the items for the upcoming arc. Remember the whole description about the crystal?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2011 4:15 pm


I agree with Havik why are we arguing over this. Unless I am mistaken we all want this damn thing to end so we can move on already and yet people are dragging it out simply for the sake of details.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:42 pm


Azeiel The Fallen
I agree with Havik why are we arguing over this. Unless I am mistaken we all want this damn thing to end so we can move on already and yet people are dragging it out simply for the sake of details.
It is now over with and I will continue with the flow. Give me a couple of days to rework my post.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 16, 2011 11:54 pm


duckmasta
Azeiel The Fallen
I agree with Havik why are we arguing over this. Unless I am mistaken we all want this damn thing to end so we can move on already and yet people are dragging it out simply for the sake of details.
It is now over with and I will continue with the flow. Give me a couple of days to rework my post.
Thats fine brother. I hope you will still teach my character when this is all said and done
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:00 am


Azeiel The Fallen
duckmasta
Azeiel The Fallen
I agree with Havik why are we arguing over this. Unless I am mistaken we all want this damn thing to end so we can move on already and yet people are dragging it out simply for the sake of details.
It is now over with and I will continue with the flow. Give me a couple of days to rework my post.
Thats fine brother. I hope you will still teach my character when this is all said and done
Trust me, in a few months you and the rest of the Genin of Iwa will be amazing. Be forewarned though, I will be leaving near the beginning of next month for a week-long trip. I might be on to check on things once or twice if I am lucky, otherwise I will be too busy to check in. During that time you will be working heavily with whatever Chunin you are assigned to.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:12 am


duckmasta
Azeiel The Fallen
duckmasta
Azeiel The Fallen
I agree with Havik why are we arguing over this. Unless I am mistaken we all want this damn thing to end so we can move on already and yet people are dragging it out simply for the sake of details.
It is now over with and I will continue with the flow. Give me a couple of days to rework my post.
Thats fine brother. I hope you will still teach my character when this is all said and done
Trust me, in a few months you and the rest of the Genin of Iwa will be amazing. Be forewarned though, I will be leaving near the beginning of next month for a week-long trip. I might be on to check on things once or twice if I am lucky, otherwise I will be too busy to check in. During that time you will be working heavily with whatever Chunin you are assigned to.
I dont mind something is better than nothing ya know
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 12:39 pm


Hey everyone, I'm the new guy in Iwa. But I've been around for a while. ( then i left for twice as long. )

I hope to get to know all of you better, blah blah blah...

So what's going on?

TvIaMsOqTuHeYz

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duckmasta

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:12 pm


TvIaMsOqTuHeYz
Hey everyone, I'm the new guy in Iwa. But I've been around for a while. ( then i left for twice as long. )

I hope to get to know all of you better, blah blah blah...

So what's going on?
Well, we're just finishing a mini-arc. Once that is finished however, I will go back through the profiles and arrange the Genin teams accordingly. Welcome to Iwa, I am Darth Ducky, Lord of the Quackith or O Great Bearded One. My Character is Iwagakure's Sanin; Deidalus, Architect of Devastation.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 2:36 pm


duckmasta
TvIaMsOqTuHeYz
Hey everyone, I'm the new guy in Iwa. But I've been around for a while. ( then i left for twice as long. )

I hope to get to know all of you better, blah blah blah...

So what's going on?
Well, we're just finishing a mini-arc. Once that is finished however, I will go back through the profiles and arrange the Genin teams accordingly. Welcome to Iwa, I am Darth Ducky, Lord of the Quackith or O Great Bearded One. My Character is Iwagakure's Sanin; Deidalus, Architect of Devastation.

Oh, ok.

Idk which one you should be, I don't see much ducky about you, so I'll go with the bearded one, or maybe Linkin...

Sweet, a chakra mouth. I'm not the only one with a weird bloodline.

TvIaMsOqTuHeYz

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 4:27 pm


I swear to Izanagi, duck has this introduction saved on his computer so he can introduce himself.....
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