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Did you originally start on Saxophone?
Yes
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No
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I was born with a sax in my hand!
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Peutaiite

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:50 am


toco clarinet
deth_fan01
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I play alto sax. All saxophone have the same fingerings so you could play almost any of them if you could play just one.
that is not true. u have to adjust embouchure according to the sax that ur playing. for example: it would b nearly impossible for some1 to go straight from baritone sax to saprinino sax and get a tone that is evn the slightest bit acceptable to an audience that has any clue wat they are actually listening to. trust me, i've tried


actually, if you're doing it right you SHOULD be able to do that. the embouchure is THE EXACT SAME, just different size.


Are you sure?
I've heard that you adjust the embouchure sooooo many times. And this is the only place I've seen that says you don't.
I think you have to like, get a looser one for the lower instruments. (I've never done it, so I cant be a valid point)
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:41 am


Peutaiite

Are you sure?
I've heard that you adjust the embouchure sooooo many times. And this is the only place I've seen that says you don't.
I think you have to like, get a looser one for the lower instruments. (I've never done it, so I cant be a valid point)


if you think about it, all the saxes are the same, except for their size. their mouthpieces are the same, except for their sizes. their keys are the same, except for their sizes. does it not make sense that the embouchure would be the same, just a different size? either way, if it does or doesn't make sense to you, that's how it is. you should be doing the exact same thing to make sound on every sax. the sax, regardless of size, requires a relatively "loose" embouchure compared to other reed instruments. "loose" meaning that you're not clamping your reed to the mouthpiece very much, if at all. you must still have a VERY firm embouchure(because the slightest twitch or waver will be apparent through your sound) and it takes a LOT of practice. you should not have a "looser" embouchure for the lower instruments, because you should already be loose enough that you can play them. that isn't to say you could fit your mouth over a bari sax mouthpiece, pull it out and slip a soprano mouthpiece in there and everything would be good. you still have to adjust the SIZE(like i've been saying) but the shape and amount of pressure you use should stay the same.

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megamanfan66

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 4:40 pm


toco clarinet
Peutaiite

Are you sure?
I've heard that you adjust the embouchure sooooo many times. And this is the only place I've seen that says you don't.
I think you have to like, get a looser one for the lower instruments. (I've never done it, so I cant be a valid point)


if you think about it, all the saxes are the same, except for their size. their mouthpieces are the same, except for their sizes. their keys are the same, except for their sizes. does it not make sense that the embouchure would be the same, just a different size? either way, if it does or doesn't make sense to you, that's how it is. you should be doing the exact same thing to make sound on every sax. the sax, regardless of size, requires a relatively "loose" embouchure compared to other reed instruments. "loose" meaning that you're not clamping your reed to the mouthpiece very much, if at all. you must still have a VERY firm embouchure(because the slightest twitch or waver will be apparent through your sound) and it takes a LOT of practice. you should not have a "looser" embouchure for the lower instruments, because you should already be loose enough that you can play them. that isn't to say you could fit your mouth over a bari sax mouthpiece, pull it out and slip a soprano mouthpiece in there and everything would be good. you still have to adjust the SIZE(like i've been saying) but the shape and amount of pressure you use should stay the same.

It's not impossible to go from one sax to another without a good sound... I played a song in a jazz band concert on bari, but had a soprano solo in the middle of the song. Not to be boastful, but I got tons of comments about how great I sounded that night. The delay was about 15 seconds; I had it set up so that I could put my bari on a nearby sax stand, grab the soprano from under my chair, and solo for one and a half minutes, then put it down and pick up the bari for the rest of the song. It went extremely smoothly, but only because I practiced doing it so much.

Embouchure-wise, all that I did was fit my mouth around the mouthpiece when changing saxes. That's it. No tighter, no looser, just snug. xd
PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:23 pm


megamanfan66

It's not impossible to go from one sax to another without a good sound... I played a song in a jazz band concert on bari, but had a soprano solo in the middle of the song. Not to be boastful, but I got tons of comments about how great I sounded that night. The delay was about 15 seconds; I had it set up so that I could put my bari on a nearby sax stand, grab the soprano from under my chair, and solo for one and a half minutes, then put it down and pick up the bari for the rest of the song. It went extremely smoothly, but only because I practiced doing it so much.

Embouchure-wise, all that I did was fit my mouth around the mouthpiece when changing saxes. That's it. No tighter, no looser, just snug. xd


exactly razz that shouldn't be considered boastful at all, every saxophonist should be able to do it..although not a lot of the student saxophonists can.

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ravenkitty776

PostPosted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:42 pm


My friend is going to teach me saxophone! 4laugh

I play flute, but she's going to teach me for jazz purposes.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:56 am


toco clarinet
Peutaiite

Are you sure?
I've heard that you adjust the embouchure sooooo many times. And this is the only place I've seen that says you don't.
I think you have to like, get a looser one for the lower instruments. (I've never done it, so I cant be a valid point)


if you think about it, all the saxes are the same, except for their size. their mouthpieces are the same, except for their sizes. their keys are the same, except for their sizes. does it not make sense that the embouchure would be the same, just a different size? either way, if it does or doesn't make sense to you, that's how it is. you should be doing the exact same thing to make sound on every sax. the sax, regardless of size, requires a relatively "loose" embouchure compared to other reed instruments. "loose" meaning that you're not clamping your reed to the mouthpiece very much, if at all. you must still have a VERY firm embouchure(because the slightest twitch or waver will be apparent through your sound) and it takes a LOT of practice. you should not have a "looser" embouchure for the lower instruments, because you should already be loose enough that you can play them. that isn't to say you could fit your mouth over a bari sax mouthpiece, pull it out and slip a soprano mouthpiece in there and everything would be good. you still have to adjust the SIZE(like i've been saying) but the shape and amount of pressure you use should stay the same.


Well I guess I "should be doing" that if I actually ever play a different type of sax.

@ Ravenkitty776.
I'm pretty sure flue is very similar to saxophone. My sister picked up my sax when I first got it, and she was already able to play flute songs on it.
So good luck, I'm sure you'll enjoy it and be good at it. biggrin

Peutaiite


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:58 am


Peutaiite
toco clarinet
Peutaiite

Are you sure?
I've heard that you adjust the embouchure sooooo many times. And this is the only place I've seen that says you don't.
I think you have to like, get a looser one for the lower instruments. (I've never done it, so I cant be a valid point)


if you think about it, all the saxes are the same, except for their size. their mouthpieces are the same, except for their sizes. their keys are the same, except for their sizes. does it not make sense that the embouchure would be the same, just a different size? either way, if it does or doesn't make sense to you, that's how it is. you should be doing the exact same thing to make sound on every sax. the sax, regardless of size, requires a relatively "loose" embouchure compared to other reed instruments. "loose" meaning that you're not clamping your reed to the mouthpiece very much, if at all. you must still have a VERY firm embouchure(because the slightest twitch or waver will be apparent through your sound) and it takes a LOT of practice. you should not have a "looser" embouchure for the lower instruments, because you should already be loose enough that you can play them. that isn't to say you could fit your mouth over a bari sax mouthpiece, pull it out and slip a soprano mouthpiece in there and everything would be good. you still have to adjust the SIZE(like i've been saying) but the shape and amount of pressure you use should stay the same.


Well I guess I "should be doing" that if I actually ever play a different type of sax.

@ Ravenkitty776.
I'm pretty sure flue is very similar to saxophone. My sister picked up my sax when I first got it, and she was already able to play flute songs on it.
So good luck, I'm sure you'll enjoy it and be good at it. biggrin


actually, most of the fingerings are the same for flute and sax, I picked up sax in a year, and I'm second chair out of like 8 2 year players, woo!
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:41 am


Lune the Looney


actually, most of the fingerings are the same for flute and sax, I picked up sax in a year, and I'm second chair out of like 8 2 year players, woo!


most of the fingerings are SIMILAR...which is different than "the same". flute has a slightly different key set up than sax...i mean, the flute's F on the bottom space of the staff is fingered completely different than a sax's...but pretty similar to how you would play it on a clarinet

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toco clarinet

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:43 am


Peutaiite


Well I guess I "should be doing" that if I actually ever play a different type of sax.


i'm not trying to bash you for not being able to do it(or not knowing that you can do it, maybe you can do it and just don't know it yet) i was just telling what i know...for reference.
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:49 am


toco clarinet
Lune the Looney


actually, most of the fingerings are the same for flute and sax, I picked up sax in a year, and I'm second chair out of like 8 2 year players, woo!


most of the fingerings are SIMILAR...which is different than "the same". flute has a slightly different key set up than sax...i mean, the flute's F on the bottom space of the staff is fingered completely different than a sax's...but pretty similar to how you would play it on a clarinet

    A lot of woodwinds have similar fingerings. Bb is usually around the same, same with D, E, etc...at least, that's what I've noticed when messing around on my friend's instruments. xd I think it's from similar mechanics and stuff.

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starynite50

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 12:35 pm


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 2:18 pm


You guys know how the octave key changes going from A down to G? Well its starting to bug me.
I'm doing my scales the other day and occasionally, the key would stick for a few seconds before it would actually work, so descending, it would always make a funny sound, or be a lot harder to make the note for a few seconds, but then everything would be fine.
I know why this is. You know how the octave key lifts up the thing that covers the hole on the neck, and then once you cover the G key, it switches, and instead of the neck one, a key on the side lifts up. That key on the side stick occasionally and that is whats causing it. Anyone know how to eliminate this?

And what reed number do you guys use. I'm kind of a newb when it comes to reeds. I've only ever used one kind and size, what size is the best to use.
I use rico 2 now. And my music teacher told me to buy a 3 or something.

Peutaiite


Rena Phoebe

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 3:26 pm


My Bb and Ab keys are sticky, and I've tried the running some paper through the keys trick, only to have the keys be sticky mere moments after doing so. It's bothering me, and I don't know what to do! Please help. sad
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:25 pm


    To the first sticky keys issue: I had that same problem with the loner sax I used awhile ago. Do you know the whole paper under the key trick? Try getting maybe a long-ish strip of paper that will actually be able to go under the key, and pull it under while pushing the key down. It should help...hopefully. xd

    As for the second sticky key issue...how exactly do you run the paper through? I've found that what helps it the most is to hold the key down really hard and pull the paper through. It seems to work for me.

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Peutaiite

PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 4:51 pm


Terra of the Lilies
    To the first sticky keys issue: I had that same problem with the loner sax I used awhile ago. Do you know the whole paper under the key trick? Try getting maybe a long-ish strip of paper that will actually be able to go under the key, and pull it under while pushing the key down. It should help...hopefully. xd

    As for the second sticky key issue...how exactly do you run the paper through? I've found that what helps it the most is to hold the key down really hard and pull the paper through. It seems to work for me.


Thanks. Weird... the one with that problem is a loaner. O.o. But The music store hasn't contacted me in about a year, so I guess its mine now. xP
Ahh well, its better xP.
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