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 Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:30 pm
Jaeger_Ayers Either my house is haunted or it's invested with gremlins. Something! Stuff always disappears. My wife's DS vanished. I turned the whole damn house over. Nothing. The thing is pink, so it's not like it would be hard to find. I figured she took it to work, forgot about it and it got snatched. That was six months ago. Yesterday I'm looking for the stupid remote to my stupid converter box because it's missing the the stupid thing only stupidly functions with the stupid remote. Did I mention digital television sucks? Anyways, the ******** pink DS shows up under the couch. I had lifted that couch at least five times since then cleaning and it wasn't there. Goblins live in my house and they nest under my wife's a**. Yaaay, you found your girly DS! Now you can finish Hotel Dusk!
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:32 am
Tenzil Kem Jaeger_Ayers Either my house is haunted or it's invested with gremlins. Something! Stuff always disappears. My wife's DS vanished. I turned the whole damn house over. Nothing. The thing is pink, so it's not like it would be hard to find. I figured she took it to work, forgot about it and it got snatched. That was six months ago. Yesterday I'm looking for the stupid remote to my stupid converter box because it's missing the the stupid thing only stupidly functions with the stupid remote. Did I mention digital television sucks? Anyways, the ******** pink DS shows up under the couch. I had lifted that couch at least five times since then cleaning and it wasn't there. Goblins live in my house and they nest under my wife's a**. Yaaay, you found your girly DS! Now you can finish Hotel Dusk! I just finished it. Where the ******** is the squid?
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 7:37 am
Old school cartoons really do beat a lot of things going on today.
I will, however, note that a few of the "made to sell stuff" things of today are actually not bad.
Ben 10 is a show I enjoy quite a lot.
But, i do miss things like Real Ghostbusters, Inhumanoids...Mask...Visionarries...
Shows that were actually kinda fun and didn't play to the"we know what's best for you" dealy.
and the misfits weren't better.
Thier SONGS were better.
I liked the fact that Jem was packaged with 2 "boy" toons, Robotix (which were some of the neatest toys ever) and Bigfoot(which...i never understood the Monster Truck having a toon of it's own)
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:13 am
Linda Lee Danvers The FCC relaxing the laws about kids entertainment being half-hour long commercials for toys (which killed the original Hot Wheels cartoon in the early 80's) is probably the biggest culprit.
There's no arguing that following that deregulation eighties kids cartoons were all about the benjamins, but that was also the decade when people didn't see the irony of Michael Douglas' speech in Wall Street. The nineties were a bit of a different animal, especially where Warner Brothers was concerned.
Saturday morning was about as political as Transmetropolitan when I was coming up, that Robot Chicken short about Ted Turner is pretty much how it was. I'm certain that a lot of my leftist ideals about animal testing, fur, dolphin safe fishing nets, and the environment in general came straight from Captain Planet and it's contemporaries.
Sure, there might have been an episode or two of MLP about a pony wanting to be a model, but there was also that episode where they go on a crusade to find who the evil monster polluting the river is, only to find to their dismay that it was their collective actions that wrecked it. A damn important lesson when the boogeyman of the era was corporate malfeasance. This was the decade where kids cartoons were just as likely to have a Pulp Fiction parody under their belts as they were to tell you to "write to your congressman."
This is of course without diving into the brilliant, unrelenting political, social, and pop satire of Tiny Toons, Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain, Earthworm Jim, and Freakazoid.
Of course at the end of the day the two biggest franchises of my youth were based on a drunken parody of Frank Miller era Daredevil on the one hand and an Ivan Reitman movie on the other.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:26 am
Lori Zechlin Linda Lee Danvers The FCC relaxing the laws about kids entertainment being half-hour long commercials for toys (which killed the original Hot Wheels cartoon in the early 80's) is probably the biggest culprit. wtf, how old do you think I am?
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:33 am
Linda Lee Danvers Lori Zechlin Linda Lee Danvers The FCC relaxing the laws about kids entertainment being half-hour long commercials for toys (which killed the original Hot Wheels cartoon in the early 80's) is probably the biggest culprit. wtf, how old do you think I am?
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:44 am
Linda Lee Danvers Lori Zechlin Linda Lee Danvers The FCC relaxing the laws about kids entertainment being half-hour long commercials for toys (which killed the original Hot Wheels cartoon in the early 80's) is probably the biggest culprit. wtf, how old do you think I am?
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 8:48 am
I'm not sure what his point was tossing that bon mot about. I was 10 in 1990 and still in prime cartoon watching age when KidsWB! launched.
Captain Planet was syndicated and got picked up solely because of the 'eco-message'....which was still all about the Captain Planet line of toys and eco-kits you could buy in the toy aisle. Other then that, Eco-toons took up the smallest part of the Saturday morning lineup. I can't even think off the top of my head of another one with an eco-friendly theme other then Swamp Thing, and that only lasted a year.
Kids WB! ran a trial lineup for one year featuring Animaniacs reruns, Superman: The Animated Series, Earthworm Jim, Freakazoid and a show about dogs that transformed into superheroes. By the next year, only Superman remained on the schedule. Animaniacs reruns were supplimented by Pinky & the Brain, and Batman reruns jumped over from Fox Kids. Freakazoid got canned, partly because the creative talent was all shifted over to other shows and partly because Mike Allred threatened to sue. The next year after that, Batman/Superman hour was their main show. They even tried to revive Pinky and the Brain by adding Elmyra to the show (what a mistake).
Other shows of the time I can recall are Skeleton Warriors, Exo-Squad, and of course, TMNT, which survived although it had a reduced schedule and some creative changeups. I remember it really throwing me when April changed her outfit for the first time in a decade. Other then a possible "eco-friendly" episode tossed here and there, the amount of 'political content' of ABC, NBC, FoxKids and the KidsWB! lineup consisted of the live-action nature shows and youth news magazines that ran after prime kiddy viewing time was over.
There was some political parody in the KidsWB! shows, but going back and rewatching, it's tamer then a current episode of the Simpsons to have Bill Clinton playing the saxophone in the opening of every Animaniacs episode (and even that sequence they ended up removing during later syndication). I was never once urged to write my congressman by a cartoon.
On another tangent, rewatching Freakazoid only revealed how really unfunny a half hour long Jerry Lewis impression can be.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:32 am
I was exaggerating with the Cobain reference, but stuff like GI Joe and Jem are incredibly divorced from my cartoon watching years since I think I was born the year the FCC thing about toys got passed
I wouldn't say that it's fair to compare what Animaniacs did to The Simpsons, especially contemporary episodes of The Simpsons which now have earned enough latitude to depict Homer smoking marijuana (and hallucinating, but I don't even want to get into that here), although Pinky and the Brain did do a pretty spot on parody of Lenny Bruce (and the Catskills Comedians) around the same time Krusty did it. I wouldn't say that anyone else was quite as overt about the environmental thing as Captain Planet, but it did get worked in elsewhere. I remember a Tiny Toons short that had to do with a corporation wanting to cut down the forest and replace it with a parking lot (Cheeseburger in Paradise, anyone?) and I'm fairly certain that the duck (whose name I constantly forget) was in a tizzy over getting his wetlands drained at least once.
I'm surprised that line up was that short, because it left a massive impact on me and most of the people I grew up with (or grew up at the same time I did in Western Canada). I mean to this day, I can't say "What are we going to do tonight, (Brain)?" without getting three "The same thing we do every night..." in response.
There were lots of other cartoons from around then like Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, Pirates of Dark Water, Eek the Cat (who dedicated an entire episode to a parody of Pulp Fiction), MC Hammer, New Kids on the Block, Police Academy, Pro Shots (or something like that; the one with Wayne Gretzky, Bo Jackson, and Michael Jordan as pseudo superheroes), and the X-Men but it was really that line up in particular that stayed with me. I was a weird kid though. What I wouldn't do for an Earthworm Jim DVD release, or Samurai Pizza Cats for that matter.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:38 am
Linda Lee Danvers Lori Zechlin Linda Lee Danvers The FCC relaxing the laws about kids entertainment being half-hour long commercials for toys (which killed the original Hot Wheels cartoon in the early 80's) is probably the biggest culprit. wtf, how old do you think I am? Not a day over awesome. wink heart And I happen to have an entire collection of Samarai Pizza Cats on tape. sweatdrop
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:42 am
I really hate being the oldest person here sometimes.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:44 am
are you?
I always thought I had that honor..
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:46 am
Hitting 35 this year. I remember life before Smurfs. Starblazers and Speed Racer on TV. The old Teen Titans cartoon. Mr. T and the T-Force.
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:48 am
You don't beat me by much...
Teen Wolf. Rick moranis at Gravedale High. Tiger Sharks. Q-Bert/Pole position/Donkey Kong/Kangaroo.Punky Brewster ><
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 9:52 am
xp I know someone in the guild that's older then you Jaeger.
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