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Darth_Ravage

PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:26 pm


The large coporations rule sectors of space, like the CSA. That might be the reason. It would be like if microsoft had its own country, it would have all its own resources and expertise and wouldn't need to subcontract.
PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:29 pm


True... The only thing subcontracted militarily seems to be Weaponry. I guess that mostly comes because of the fact that Bespin holds much of the blaster gas necessary for weaponry. Even if multiple corporations hold claim to their respecitve plants on the planet, all the resources must come from there.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:21 pm


That seems to be the case. Weird how a galactic commodity can only be found at one gas planet? And its been used for 20,000 years and has not come even close to running out, or even having adverse effects on the planet. Stupid small minded EU authors.
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 3:06 pm


Don't blast the authors. Blame lucas from the very start at creating planets with only one climate zone.

In fact, everything in Star Wars, from the very beginning of ANH when the Tantive IV showed up is almost completely fake and impractical. Lasers don't fire that way, and the pusations from the engines would be so hot inside the ship that it would melt the structures. Not even including the heat from the weaponry.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:07 pm


remember Nelo, they don't use lasers. they use different gas... and tibanna has only been used since the clone wars, technically, and by the NR era has become slightly unwieldy with newer technologies. i'm thinking most turbolaser gas up until that time was mostly synthetic, and they used tibanna because it required a lower degree of processing and was therefore cheaper- but i remind you, it's only used in turbolasers and the badly designed E-wing cannons.

i'm assuming most blaster and "laser" cannon gas is also synthetic. and as for cooling measures, they're pretty extreme... check out the E-11... i've illustrated the ingenious cooling measures it has many times. for turbolasers and cannons, they have much larger measures, which are equally extensive. engines yes, create great heat, but the only ships we see visibly combating that effectively are, ironically, tie fighters.

plus, they often subontract sensors and engines. the A-Wing has subcontracted engines, and i think the x-wing has subcontracted sensors. Slayn & Corpil and Sienar are 2 companies that come to mind when talking about /not/ subcontracting.
PostPosted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:08 pm


The technology mimics laser technology. I really don't know what the excuse is, but something that small just cannot be a laser due to heat. An E-11, provided it was based on laser technology, would fire at about 1600 degrees every shot, if I remember my chemistry correctly. Though I usually leave the arguement at that, and let someone come up with excuses to finish it.

And TIE fighters are the worst of all for their engines. The solar array panels don't do much for them.

That is, until they update the Diagrams of them, they are still considered solar collection panels. And in space, they couldn't be heat dispersion panels, since the temperature of the engines versus absolute zero of space would basically blow the ship apart simply by climate stresses. We know what happens to metal when you cool it down or heat it up too fast.

*crack*

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Darth_Ravage

PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:00 am


for info on turbolasers' operating principles and why they are not lasers (reverse of hte "acts like a duck" postulate), go to www.stardestroyer.net. Click on the Picture, and then on the link to "Turbolaser Commentries".
PostPosted: Mon Oct 24, 2005 2:57 pm


I've read it, but its also subject to critisism, because like i stated, people who know the field will debate on telling you why it cannot work in such a fashion.

but I am not an expert, and I will not contest it, as I really don't care much about it. Everytime I try to use proof from the internet, I get shot down by someone in real life. So it really is more on who are you going to believe? reality, or fantasy?

Personally, I don't care. Gas, laser, disruptor, it doesn't matter what it is, the controversy is about as useful as trying to rediscover cold fusion and why we killed the b*****d who could have created nearly unlimited energy.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 1:38 pm


which b*****d? And I am glad you have read the site, very informative. And based on analysis, math, evidence and logic, very few things like that on teh internet.
PostPosted: Thu Oct 27, 2005 2:06 pm


And unfortunately, it still is stuck in the realm of fantasy. Heck, even the parsec is compromised.

But i'm straying off topic.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:44 am


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And unfortunately, it still is stuck in the realm of fantasy. Heck, even the parsec is compromised.

But i'm straying off topic.

The parsec was a retarded move on LA's part, that comment made no sense.
We have been off topic for almost 1 1/2 pages
PostPosted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 12:43 pm


A parsec is a real unit of distance. You can read about it in the Outlaw's Guide to the Galaxy. I wrote one hella long description about it. But it depends on the size of a planet, its distance from a star, and its unit of time to be accurate, so its been limited.

And yes, we need to get back on topic. So no more discussion until we at least have one art related post. I need to get back to making banners.

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NickCpointless

PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 11:58 am


Lazars and engines both run from the main reactor which has a cooling system to prevent the metal from overheating
PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:39 am


About the parsec, I know it is a unit of distance, that is the point. It was stated as though it was a unit of time. In fact, in the novelization it was stated as "standard time parts" rather than "parsecs". Given his other statements, such as the EMpire can't have blown up a planet (when it just did) and that a lightsaber + the force is lesser than a blaster (vader shows that just the force is better, against HS no less), and the statement that Lando is "trustworthy", the safe conclusion is that HS is an idiotic smuggler who got lucky numerous times and that his statements can be safely classified as stupid and irrelevant, and thus ignored.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:36 pm


I think that Han isn't necessarily stupid, persay, but more ignorant, and just hasn't the experience with the things he talks about...

for one, Blowing up an entire planet had never been accomplished before. I mean, if we take KOTOR for example, they simply bombarded it to smithereens, but the actual idea of a planet no longer existing due to a weapon was unthought of. That's why it was so scary, and the reaction of many of the star systems also proves it. After Alderaan blew, many systems were so scared of being the next threat, they either submitted (chandrilla) or aided the growing Rebellion. So I find that's partially an excuse. It would be like when I first heard about 9/11. I thought it was just a prank or a hoax, until hours later when they turned the tvs on to show us it. At least, that's why I don't think that evidence is really useful against han for "stupid and irrelevant". That was because nothing like that had happened.

Second, the blaster versus the hokey religeon, I also think it doesn't help, because by the time in the galaxy that is stated, Darth Vader is the only person in the galaxy who even is seen with a lightsaber. Everyone else is using blasters. Sort of like the sword versus gun idea, though stretched. No jedi survived (supposedly), so they were extinct, and with them, their religeon "died". Even Tarkin says that Vader is the Last jedi in the galaxy (excluding the emperor, though reasons need not be divulged). Who's really going to believe stuff like that? I mean, the force is intangible, and with nobody practicing it really, I'm not suprized that someone who has survived all this time off of raw luck (even if its the force in disguise) and a blaster would scoff at the idea.

As for lando, people change over time, and back when Han knew Lando before Cloud City, he was trustworthy. And I really don't think we can't say Lando isn't trustworthy, since he helped bust Han out of the Carbonite from Jabba in ROTS. So I'm not exactly sure we can necessarily blame han for not knowing that Lando had a gun to his back when he went to bespin.

In conclusion, I don't believe Han is necessarily stupid, but the key word is he assumes too much.
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