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 Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:57 pm
Superior Jazz I agree with Trogdor. I plan to live forever.
So far, so good.
Anyway. Getting to the point.
Gay marriage. Great. I'm all for it. If they want to be together like any other couple, then great. I will support them until death. If you want to go that route, they're in sin because they're homosexuals anyway. Why not let them get married? All marriage realy is is a legal contract. Sure, it means more, but that's all it really is.
And about denying them that right...
As far as I know, the Constitution protects everyone freedom from oppression. I think... anyway. This means that they cannot be oppressed by the state. Ergo, Bush and his maniacal idiocy. Sorry to all you Americans, but I think Bush is the worst thing since Hitler. The man is a tool.
Ahem...
This means that the State, or organized religion, cannot force them into doing, or not doing, anything. Such as not allowing them to get married. That's wrong. Denying anyone that right is sinnful in its own right...
Gads... Time to wash my hands now. I used a bad word... I agree bush is not one to b proud of and i'm imbaressed to b an american and as for gay marrigaes i still see nothing wrong with it i mean god make all of us for a reason we all have a purpose in gods eyes so if he did want gay people to b one day married then he wouldn't have mad lezbians and gays. no one has problems with bi's becuase they can luv men or women but u no wut i think if they want to get married so b it god also said love one another as u have loved me and is he did say love must b of the opposite sex becuase he no that u must love whether it man or women wut is the point of love if u can not let your heart decide who u love and if u want to but a law on that lets just all go back to arranged marriges. leave the people alone gay bio straight or lezban there people in love and let then love as they plz if they wish to get married so b it they do it for love and becuase its part of gods plan and god is the law not bush.
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Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:13 am
DemigoddessHalfdemon But why should we be allowed to impose our morality on others? Pre-Marital sex is a sin. Does that mean we should make laws against it? You have the right to believe whatever you want. But your rights end when you start infringing on the rights of another person. Any other person. He gave us the free will to believe that homosexuality and homosexual marriage is a sin. He gave homosexuals the free will to ignore us and get married. ShadowCat495 We shouldn't give these people the chance to sin, whether they want to or not. That is taking away their own free will. Which God says is one of the greatest sins of all. You are the first post I read that I agree with.
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:07 pm
Just because God gave you free will doesn't mean you should go out and murder everyone you see. If God wanted it to be men with me it would have been Adam and Evan or Andrea and Eve. Where in the bible does it say God allows same sex mariage
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 8:19 pm
Audio Adrenaline Just because God gave you free will doesn't mean you should go out and murder everyone you see. If God wanted it to be men with me it would have been Adam and Evan or Andrea and Eve. Where in the bible does it say God allows same sex mariage you said it sister
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Posted: Tue Aug 22, 2006 10:20 pm
Audio Adrenaline Just because God gave you free will doesn't mean you should go out and murder everyone you see. If God wanted it to be men with me it would have been Adam and Evan or Andrea and Eve. Where in the bible does it say God allows same sex mariage I'll bring up a quote from Pirate "where in the Bible does it say that homosexual mariage is a sin?" I must also point out that in the Bible were it states that men and women went against their nature and slept with members of the same sex, it was because God punished those men and women, and changed their behavour making them do something that they had never done before, making them do what was not normal for them, therefore making them go against their nature. BUT! If you've liked the same gender since you were young or sespected you like the same gender, then it is NOT agaisnt your nature to follow through with said feelings. No one has the right to oppress any persons rights or feelings. It is not our job to judge others, it's Gods job. On Judgement Day. Correct me if I'm wrong on the above paragraphs, please. Oh and might I had, that if we were to disallow homosexual mariage because the Christian faith "disaproves" of it, then we might as well take a look at everything else that Bible states is clearly agaisnt Gods will. Like God telling his people to wear clothes made of one type of fabric/material. I don't hear people openly disagreeing with girls wearing pants, or people wearing a pair of pants made of one type fabric and a shirt made with another. Times are changing, and Oh no, people are fighting for their rights as human beings. surprised *gasp* who would have thought.
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Posted: Sat Sep 02, 2006 2:20 pm
ShadowCat495 I think we should not allow gay marriage. When I was younger, I thought it should be allowed, but now I realize, I was stupid. Here are my reasons (why I'm against gay marriage, not the reasons why I was stupid blaugh ) >One part in the Bible, God says that a man shall not lay down with another man as a woman {something like that}. Yes, God gave us free will, "but" that does not mean we have to allow gay marriage. By allowing it, we are sinning ourselves. We shouldn't give these people the chance to sin, whether they want to or not. I agree with Bush all the way. Gay marriage is wrong.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:45 pm
ShadowCat495 I think we should not allow gay marriage. When I was younger, I thought it should be allowed, but now I realize, I was stupid. Here are my reasons (why I'm against gay marriage, not the reasons why I was stupid blaugh ) >One part in the Bible, God says that a man shall not lay down with another man as a woman {something like that}. Yes, God gave us free will, "but" that does not mean we have to allow gay marriage. By allowing it, we are sinning ourselves. We shouldn't give these people the chance to sin, whether they want to or not. I agree with Bush all the way. Gay marriage is wrong. I agree with you. I would never vote for gay marriage to be legalized. And at the same time, I would never go out with picket signs and march the streets of Washington and tear down walls. I dont think that gives us a very good image and I dont think its right. I have a best friend thats gay. But, Im not trying to "set him straight" or anything. He knows what I think without me having to say anything, so I dont. Its not like I dont care. I do, but Its not between me and him. Its between him and God. Afterall, we dont have the power to change people. Only God does. All we can do is tell them what we believe and why God wants it that way. Then pray. I do support Bush also. (Even though hes a terrible speaker, and sometimes he makes me wonder) I still support Him.
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Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 7:05 pm
princess_jaybird ShadowCat495 I think we should not allow gay marriage. When I was younger, I thought it should be allowed, but now I realize, I was stupid. Here are my reasons (why I'm against gay marriage, not the reasons why I was stupid blaugh ) >One part in the Bible, God says that a man shall not lay down with another man as a woman {something like that}. Yes, God gave us free will, "but" that does not mean we have to allow gay marriage. By allowing it, we are sinning ourselves. We shouldn't give these people the chance to sin, whether they want to or not. I agree with Bush all the way. Gay marriage is wrong. No we dont. We treat them like people. I do anyways. There is nothing wrong with Gay/bi people. Yeah, they do have just as much of a right to be happy as me or you. But according to God. They dont have a right to marry someone of the same sex. Thats what God believes, so dont yell at me. I backing God with this one. I choose God over popular belief anyday. I dont have ANY problem with gay people. And I am a hard core Christian. I just dont believe in what they do. I dont believe people are born like that. Not possible. If it were. It would Contradict God, and it would make him a liar. And God cannot contradict himself or lie. If God dosnt do what He says.......Lets all go get drunk. I mean, if he lies. whats the point of anything? Lets live life the way we want. But my God doesnt Lie. My God does what He says. And he says a man shall not lie with another man. Therefore, you can clearly see why I am totally against it. My God ALSO says Love EVERYBODY no matter WHAT THEY DID OR WHAT THEY ARE DOING. And again you can clearly see why I dont agree with it, yet I WILL NEVER CONDEM ANYONE because of what they do. Even if there in prison. I still love them. So dont Tell us that we treat these people badly. I am offended by the thought of it. If any christian treats one HAIR on these people badly, they are breaking the greatest comandment of them all. However to support WHAT THEY DO is wrong in Gods eyes. Thats why we can never agree with it. I dont judge people. Its not my job. Im just a messenger. LOVE the SINNER......................HATE the SIN
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:43 am
`Kel` But according to God. They dont have a right to marry someone of the same sex. Thats what God believes, so dont yell at me. Support your argument with scriptural evidence within the Bible, please. Tell me when you discover that no where in the Bible is gay marriage addressed. biggrin 'cause straight men and women having gay/lesbian sex certainly is addressed... But not gay marriage for those who's own innate nature is to be gay. Then there's those laws in the OT that are trumped by the Law of Agape.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:14 am
Quote: Then there's those laws in the OT that are trumped by the Law of Agape. and then there's those laws that are confirmed by Paul to still apply.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:25 pm
PirateEire `Kel` But according to God. They dont have a right to marry someone of the same sex. Thats what God believes, so dont yell at me. Support your argument with scriptural evidence within the Bible, please. Tell me when you discover that no where in the Bible is gay marriage addressed. biggrin 'cause straight men and women having gay/lesbian sex certainly is addressed... But not gay marriage for those who's own innate nature is to be gay. Then there's those laws in the OT that are trumped by the Law of Agape. Ah, but don't sex and marriage go hand in hand? I mean, have you ever heard of a marriage without sex? I haven't.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 7:25 am
i like burnination Quote: Then there's those laws in the OT that are trumped by the Law of Agape. and then there's those laws that are confirmed by Paul to still apply. So you take Paul's word over Jesus's? Xairip Ah, but don't sex and marriage go hand in hand? I mean, have you ever heard of a marriage without sex? I haven't. I have. I'm sure that you're also aware that sex exists outside of marriage as well. Laws on sex do not dictate laws on marriage, nor vice versa, in modern day society, now do they?
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 10:06 am
PirateEire i like burnination Quote: Then there's those laws in the OT that are trumped by the Law of Agape. and then there's those laws that are confirmed by Paul to still apply. So you take Paul's word over Jesus's? apostolic authority. besides, Jesus never said anything that contradicts what Paul says.
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Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2006 12:05 pm
PirateEire i like burnination Quote: Then there's those laws in the OT that are trumped by the Law of Agape. and then there's those laws that are confirmed by Paul to still apply. So you take Paul's word over Jesus's? Xairip Ah, but don't sex and marriage go hand in hand? I mean, have you ever heard of a marriage without sex? I haven't. I have. I'm sure that you're also aware that sex exists outside of marriage as well. Laws on sex do not dictate laws on marriage, nor vice versa, in modern day society, now do they? I never said that they did. =P I just said that, according to your logic, that it's only if they have sex that they're sinning. But, since most marriages involve sex, even gay ones, the gay marriages therefore involve sinning.
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