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 Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:19 pm
I'm going to smack the hell out of Vin for this. No, Noire, you can't heal in battle. If you wanted to add a specific minor healing ability, you should have pointed it out specifically with the proper disadvantages rather than giving us an explanation about yoga principles and touching the moon (which I honestly think Vin overlooked because you put it after your history section). Quote: outside the bounds of what's in my profile, as interpreted by the judges I think that's exactly what we're saying. The healing abilities other people implemented require specific actions to succeed that put them at a disadvantage (or at least a disadvantage that we interpret, as it is up for the competitor to exploit it). I know how widely you can interpret usages of ki, chi, the chakras of the body and other various techniques that originate from India, but you still have to spell out specific things in the profile if you want to use them. I'd just suggest for future reference that next time you create a profile to sumbit for a tournament, you simply get to the point of what your character can and can't do. Being general with certain things like ki and such isn't a bad thing, but when you expand that generality to turn it into some sort of super utility-knife ability it's just not going to cut it. I have no problem with Noire using his powers to recover from his injuries after the fight, though.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:21 pm
Rhoslyn Vernal @Noire: Okay, you need to explicitly spell out everything he can do, and send it to a Judge. Or all of us, since I reaaaalllly would rather not have to look at a new power you decide fits "yoga/philosophy mastery" that isn't explicitly listed, and decide if I can tolerate it. Since, y'know, I'm really not going to follow all of your links and read them carefully to figure out what powers you have. I'd read it for spiffy information and new things to read, but I have a lot of things I would much rather do than comb it looking for what might be okay.
I'm inclined to say "yes, you can fix your hair with woo-woo and possibly heal minor wounds", but I question the purpose of doing so. In terms of an RPG you might know, Champions, Noire had a multipower pool with every power. He was actually built using Masterbook with a specialization in "on the fly FX" (meaning the bonus didn't apply if he had a specific practiced effect), but the game mechanic is essentially the same. wiki Power FrameworksThe rules also include schemes for providing a larger number of powers to a character for a given cost. These power frameworks reduce the cost either by requiring the group of powers to have a common theme as in an Elemental Control Framework, or by limiting the number of powers that can be active at one time with a Multipower Framework. Powers within a framework can share common limitations, further reducing the cost. A third type of power framework, the Variable Power Pool (VPP), trades thrift for flexibility. With it, powers can be arbitrarily chosen on the fly, granting enhanced in-game flexibility. The price is a premium on points, called the Control Cost. It's vaguely similar to Silver Surfer or Genie from Aladdin. obviously any effect defying the rules is clearly not going to be used, and I've already listed several things he's not going to use. D&D had something similar, namely 1st level cantrip, 7th level limited wish, and 9th level wish. I would say his power scale for this particular range is very close to a 5th level "extremely limited wish". I'm pretty sure posting this is going to irritate some people, which is why I generally stuck to throwing slaps and palm strikes.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:26 pm
Evil Little Flayer Lol, for the people who don't have opponents, I have plenty of alt-characters who could step in and fight, at least to give them someone to smash face on until the start of the next rounds, and let them win by default. I've got plenty of time on my hands, and at least three or four extra characters floating around. Just a thought to give people who might be missing opponents a chance to fight and flex their muscles while they get to pummel someone, and still manage to have an entertaining fight. Probably not the best idea, but I figured I'd throw it out there, since the first round is getting so wanked. That, and I'm dying to develop those mentioned characters and have fights with them in an official setting, even if they have to lose. Either slap me in the face or talk to me about whether or not this is an acceptable option, which I'm pretty sure it's not, but I'm just trying to help everyone out, if I can.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:30 pm
So his power is everything in moderation? A light-to-moderate Everything elemental powered by MILF and philosophy?
...no. I have no issues with that as a character concept, but I think it's broken for tournaments. For the sake of this tournament, and probably in general, I would just specify which specific tools he's going to use in the tournament. Like, say, the Gaian Brick powers.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:34 pm
Tenkai Matsumoto I'm going to smack the hell out of Vin for this. No, Noire, you can't heal in battle. If you wanted to add a specific minor healing ability, you should have pointed it out specifically with the proper disadvantages rather than giving us an explanation about yoga principles and touching the moon (which I honestly think Vin overlooked because you put it after your history section). Quote: outside the bounds of what's in my profile, as interpreted by the judges I think that's exactly what we're saying. The healing abilities other people implemented require specific actions to succeed that put them at a disadvantage (or at least a disadvantage that we interpret, as it is up for the competitor to exploit it). I know how widely you can interpret usages of ki, chi, the chakras of the body and other various techniques that originate from India, but you still have to spell out specific things in the profile if you want to use them. I'd just suggest for future reference that next time you create a profile to sumbit for a tournament, you simply get to the point of what your character can and can't do. Being general with certain things like ki and such isn't a bad thing, but when you expand that generality to turn it into some sort of super utility-knife ability it's just not going to cut it. I have no problem with Noire using his powers to recover from his injuries after the fight, though. I have no problem with that ruling. I apologize for not going into the multipower FX. The profile alludes to rather than explicitly stating it.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:43 pm
Rhoslyn Vernal So his power is everything in moderation? A light-to-moderate Everything elemental powered by MILF and philosophy?
...no. I have no issues with that as a character concept, but I think it's broken for tournaments. For the sake of this tournament, and probably in general, I would just specify which specific tools he's going to use in the tournament. Like, say, the Gaian Brick powers. i went with the "reflex brick" power since that's one of his unrelated abilities, but people tend to ignore it when you don't couple it with land speed. Kenshiro walked around at 1 mph but he was a total reflex monkey. What does "powered by MILF" mean? I just keep getting porn references.
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:46 pm
Mystical Internal Life Force
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Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:52 pm
Rhoslyn Vernal Mystical Internal Life Force Oh. Is that a GURPs reference? Its pretty cool.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:41 pm
QUESTION!
Are points deducted for paralyzing an opponent and/or is it considered a disqualification? My concern is that it leaves the opponent immobile yet still alive... >>;
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:28 pm
My verbal contract with Vinctict stated that I would not use my character’s ability on the enemies stuff when he was holding it.
I would like a judges ruling on using the ability on my stuff while the enemy is holding or touching it.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 4:17 pm
Mr Shinjiko QUESTION!
Are points deducted for paralyzing an opponent and/or is it considered a disqualification? My concern is that it leaves the opponent immobile yet still alive... >>; Depends on how bad of damage would cause it, really. If you're doing what I would guess you are, which would be a spinal injury, and it's just for below the waist, well, that is bound to happen. If you're trying to do it higher up, then you're either being very careless and taking a potential one-shot kill, or being very, very damn accurate and I don't particularly think that's good sporstmanship. So, I would probably look it over and ask the other Judges, but I'm inclined to say I'd vote for "s**t happens" and leave you in. sewing-life alchemist My verbal contract with Vinctict stated that I would not use my character’s ability on the enemies stuff when he was holding it. I would like a judges ruling on using the ability on my stuff while the enemy is holding or touching it. Well, then, it's certainly not his equipment you're messing with, now is it? I'm totally fine with this.
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Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:12 pm
My opponent and I have been having a long OOC discussion, still ongoing, over the last two posts. The subject is the propriety of my slicing his hand open when he reached over my blade. I saved the conversation in case it can't be resolved between us. I ask for no action at this time, simply an awareness among the judges that an issue exists that may be holding up further posting.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:14 pm
sewing-life alchemist My verbal contract with Vinctict stated that I would not use my character’s ability on the enemies stuff when he was holding it. I would like a judges ruling on using the ability on my stuff while the enemy is holding or touching it. What if the guy is touching his stuff, and using the stuff to touch my character for a prolonged period of time?
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 5:18 pm
sewing-life alchemist What if the guy is touching his stuff, and using the stuff to touch my character for a prolonged period of time? Call 911 or stroke it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:30 pm
Also, when does the round end? Provide time zone please.
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