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You should split them up because as it's better all around. Having 3 units of one suit means that your enemy needs at least three units to target all of yours. YOu still have the exact same amount of firepower, but you can split it as you needit without needing target locks. Plus, when you have your commander as a lone Independent Character, he's untargetable as long as there's a closer unit.

Shield Drones have thier own invuln, they don't grant the suit an invuln. If you don't have a shield generator or a boatload of drones, they aren't much protection. Two, if you have a lone suit with one drone, as soon as he loses the drone, he's taking All On Your Own checks. A Morale check every turn, before he can move. It's stupid, but that's how it works.



Like I said, the bodyguards are okay weaponwise. The Plasma/Fusion is Pure anti-MeQ, and can deal with MC's, and the Missile/Fusion can potshot at Vehicles with missiles as it moves up the field until it gets in range for the Fusion Blaster. I personally don't like the Fusion Blaster, but I'll let you draw your own conclusions on it.

Yes. Each change isn't huge, but they add up, and your army will play differently with all of them in effect.

ok with my christmas presents i made a couple of changes and managed to make an almost 2000 point army, how does this look

Tau Empire 2000 Point List

Headquarters (HQ)

Shas'o
Cyclic Ion Blaster
Missile Pod
Stimulant Injector
Iridium Armour
Shield Generator
Hardwired Multi-Tracker

bodyguard 1
Fusion Blaster
Missile Pods
Targeting Array
Hardwired Multi-Tracker

bodyguard 2
Plasma Rifle
Fusion Blaster
Targeting Array
Hardwired Multi-Tracker
Failsafe Detonator

Ethereal
Figure
Honour Blade
EMP grenades

Elites

Crisis Team 1
3 Suits
Shas’vre
Bonding knife
3 Shield Generators
3 Plasma Rifles
2 Fusion Blasters
1 Flamer
3 H-W Multi Trackers
3 H-W Target Locks

Crisis Team 2
3 Figures
Shas’vre
Bonging Knife
3 Shield Generators
2 Fusion Blasters
2 Plasma Rifles
1 Flamer
1 missile pod
3 H-W Multi Trackers
2 H-W Target Locks

Stealth Team
6 Figures
Shas’vre
2 Fusion Blasters
6 Targeting Arrays
5 Hardwired Target Locks


Fire Warriors
12 Figures
1 Shas’ui
Bonding Knife
Marker-light
Kroot
16 Figures = 112pts
Shaper = 21pts

Fast Attack

Piranha Skimmers
3 Models
Fusion Blaster
3 Flechette dischargers

Heavy Support

Broadside Battlesuit
Shas’vre
Twin Linked Plasma Rifles
Targeting Array
Hardwired Drone Controller
Markerdrone

Hammerhead Gunship
Railgun
Burst Cannons
Multi Tracker
Disruption Pod

Might want to remove the Klaw here. If you intend to go shooting, you don't intend to go into combat.

Moving the Klaw to this guy would be best. As for both, 'Eavy Armor isn't usually needed. Due to Targeting restrictions, you can only shoot one if NONE of your units are within 6" of the Mek, or he's the closest to the enemy. If both of those are happening at once, then he should be shot (No offense).

Shoota's... on a Combat unit? 5 S9 attacks on the charge are almost always better than what the gun upgrades for a Nob would do.

Is 2 the max Bomb Squigs? Put as many in as you can, and use them as a bubble to block enemy tank options. You don't need LoS at the tank to unleash the Bomb Squigs on 'em.

Fine. Shoota's are more effective than Sluggas, odds say such (Anything WS4 or better Shoota's work better than the +1 attack, anything WS3 or less they work just as well).

Maybe bump up the squad size? Still, this is the main unit you want screened by the Mek's forcefield.

Nevermind, this one is. The 'Ard Boyz at least have a regular save against most things. Of course, you should be able to cover both units at once (As the rules state only that a model has to be within range, not the whole unit).

Rokkit's aren't the best weapons, but decent enough. With the other two units, it's possible to get even this one in with the Mek if done right. 3 Invulned units at once is a nasty thing for most enemies.


Use these as quick Table-Quarter snatchers in Cleanse Missions, objective grabbers in "Take and Holds", etc.

Functions just about like a Razorback with chances of mucking itself up. Good for some laughs ingame.


Ah, so you play to have fun, not to win. Good man.

Wyrdboy Special Character or Warphead's do best off. Wyrdboy special is among the best as he can always swap out 'Eadbang that turn.

And Warboss' do best either chucked in a transport / fleeting inside a large mob, or on a Bike with Attack Squigs and additional Hand Weapons (Since I believe it was stated you can now get a 2CCW bonus when on Bikes in some FAQ?). Even if not, the sheer amount of S10 Powerklaw attacks is always fun. Same reason to take a Mek on a Bike with a Scorcha (Actually, slightly better due to raised I and still effective strength).

Hey, if it takes a Lascannon away from your boyz, and manages to Careen itself into enemy lines, who's complaining?

Lootaz are your friends against Eldar.

Close in fast, avoid the firepower, have fun with the Klaw Nob hiding behind a mass of Boyz.

See Anti-Marine. 3nodding

Aye, and you can have 2 on Daemon Princes. Still, a friend of mine at the hobby store is fond of using it to shape squads into Flame-Templates infront of a Doom Siren. Good times.

With Guard, you need to close fast, so I can see the problem there. Same with Tau, but with Eldar-tough tanks to boot.

Drachyench, the big mek needs the claw, if he teleports himself into combat he's toast, he needs it, also I like big meks with an odd combo of wargear and weapons. :B

The 'eavy armous would be needed in close combat since the enemy might direct their attacks to him.

Kombi Shootas gives me extra points in the tournament (they got something they call comp-points, competition points I belive, if you have these "oddities" in your list and so on you get positive points so it won't be a MEGAAWESOME BACKSTABBING list) as well as a tad bit variation, and I don't want to order some bits to get sluggas since I got 2 in the Nob box. : D

No, 2 isn't the max, I don't want more than 2 bomb squigs, and modelling more is bothersome... Need my time to paint them all. :B

About the table-holding buggies that's sort of the role I'm going to give them, if that's the mission played in the tournament.

But I made up a new list which I will test about next week or so, going to remove the nob squad and try to spread out the amount of power claws in the mobs instead, and get some lootas, a deff dread, and 2 trukk units with 10 boyz in each mob, or make my goff boy units 30 man strong instead of 20, and I seriously need to try out that damn wyrdboy!

I'm going to put up another list later on as well, using Mad Dok Grotsnik and TONS of cybork-gretchins, just need to wait for the new plastic grots who are on the way... o 3o;;;

Thanks for the comments though. n_n

Lots of cost for a T3 unit. Similarly, it is horribly mismatched. For starters, stick with one thing for the squad (Shooting or combat). Normally, Shooting is better due to his decent BS (And Henchmen BS), and the lack of anything better than T3 (Plus the fact that none bar the Lord can have better than a 4+ save). Similarly, you rarely need more than two familiars. Lastly, I don't think you can buy a targeter. I think only Storm Troopers can have them.

Decent, but you're throwing in a one-wound model. Brother Captains tend to be better, as one squad of Space Marines, Necrons, etc, could kill this model in a single salvo.

Vindicare is okay, though has little use. Assuming he never reaches combat and gets to fire every turn, he'll cause only 2.5 wounds; rarely enough to even make up half his points. Eversor and Callidus tend to work best for making up their points (And then some).

Okay, though I'd abuse the Independent Character rule and drop the Terminator Armor (Maybe call it power armor?). When the enemy sees something in such, they tend to think "Light them up!". Same thing for Targeter.

Fine.

Fine.

This thing is a Transport more than anything else. Make sure to attach a squad to it. These things aren't meant for long-range engagements.

As well it should. This solves the Brother Captain durability issue for the most part, but also makes me wonder why you'd give a 2+ save to a model in a Majority-save unit of 3+.

Four of Melta's or Plasma's tends to work better than two of one and a single of the other two (You have to remember that odds are they'll only get one turn of shooting anyways before their deaths). Bionics also aren't that great in most instaces (Anything S6 or better ignores them, as do Power Weapons). Carapace Armor I can understand, though it is often better not to take it and pile in more models.

For the Chimera, is it for Fire Support or bringing the Guard to the fray? If Fire Support, drop the Track Guards (When glanced, Immobilization instead of Crew Stunned is much better, even if sacrificing VP's).

I already see a Problem. This isn't a Space Marine squad, yet these 28 models cost more than 40 Space Marines. Guess who'd win in a confrontation?

Going for Close-Combat? Guard aren't good at this in almost all instances without a mass of numbers behind them. They're T3, WS3, I3, and S3 models with a 4+ save at best. If you want to engage, though, be my guest; different styles for different players.

Same thing as above for Carapace Armor, mixed weapons, etc.

Again, TG isn't needed if Stationary. Also, if Drop-Trooping, realize that the suicide squads are called such for a reason: They intend one turn of shooting, and anything beyond that is just icing on the cake.

If you took Carapace Armor as an army upgrade (Which it looks like you did with your veterans), all units must take such.

Similarly, Sharpshooter has no effect on Plasma Weapons, so that's only nine models in the unit who benefit from such.

Same as above for the weapons and such, and the Chimera again rarely needs TG's unless you plan to zoom around for some Last-Minute quarter claiming.

Also, the Chimera is Illegal. Only Mechanized Armies can have them in Platoons, or only Armored Fist squadrons (Which would put this platoon as one squad too small).

Autocannon will have no role if you intend to move around, and if stationary the TG will have little role.

There should be a second model stated here somewhere.

Searchlights are almost never needed outside very specific scenarios (As most games rarely have Night Fighting for any more than one turn, if that). Plasma Cannon would do best matched with a Lascannon over a Heavy Bolter, though either is fine (Both are meant to drop infantry anyways). Replacing the Storm Bolter with a Stubber is usually better for the extra shot.

In referemce to the gaurd, Id say ignore drachyench in regards to searchlights. Theyre 1 point, no reason to not have them for when those occasions come up.

Anyways though, if youre army isnt even topping 50 models and its IG, something is very wrong. These guys are way way too points heavy, and too overstuffed with gear that theyre not going to make use of. Pick a direction for the army and go with it.