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That's fair about flying things harder to get, though i think the same should be applied to chocobos and wyverns [i will create a system for wyverns damnit!!!... When i'm less lazy].

Motorcycles/yellows: Common, easy enough to come by. Reliable, etc.

Cars/trucks/blues/browns: Harder to get and come by. However they can reach more types of areas, like up mountains and across rivers

Gold/black/helicopter: Hardest to come by. However once you acquire them you can fly, which is a nifty type of thing to come by.

Airships: A class of their own category. I almost wanna say you get them through a quest that the one of the crew gives you or something along those lines.

that works for me actually.

With wyverns, gotta fight them obviously. or gain an egg for one from someone. These, also, would be fairly damn rare

Good you finally realized it, you also have to take in account all melee weapons combined thus gig's high skill, as well as with bonuses i would be quite a bit higher level then i am. How ever yes my damage is very high, but you suggested that my damage was to high? but in FF series isn't the physical attacker the one that always causes more damage than the mages, usually seems like its graded on a curve. That is why i suggest not lowering the damage (the magics will also end up easily being high damage like physical combat) but raise the HP equation.

Sure that does seem like the band-aid, but arent we still slapping them on and testing? Why do i say go with raising hp, when some believe the damage would be lowered? Simple change one thing or change alot, by that i mean you would have to change all the damages of the weapons, while in its self not that big of a deal. It would be much easier to simply change the hp equation, hell all the FF had massive amount of hp, and i know somebody will say this isn't exactly FF, and before you say it im already fully aware so ill get down to my reasons why i say higher hp.

First its much more likely you will hit your enemy, much much higher, and because of that, i believe why in FF the HP are so high. Second as i said easier to change the one equation then all the weapons,.....plus i like the high damage makes you feel better XD. Third some of the soul spheres already have a unbalanced amount of extra hp on to the person equipped, gig only has just short of 700 hp with a pretty good Con stat, but the master chaos legion adds like +500 hp true it may be the master class but 500 would be almost as high as some peoples hp. Fourth with the DR and MDR they would take a chunk out of the final damage, but i say change those back to full Con/Int for the reduction to thus take bigger pieces out of the damage.

Basically im saying max the hp at 9999 but make it where you can actually have that much hp. ok thought of what would could use as new HP system, and well......kinda of fits do to level, and well FF series.

Con mod + 100 x level

not that sounds like alot but count it up, calculate it with varying levels (Mostly low levels) it makes alot of sense.

edit: Even roys level 100 sum b***h, would have only 12500 hp with that equation, and that is a level 100! It makes it lean more like a FF series, and i know we want originality, i have witnessed most of the current rpers that will be here and i know none will be like a FF char, but the higher HP makes it more FF like and as i said higher chance of hitting should mean more hp.

I'm fine with raising HP, however if we raise hp we might want to raise damage just a tad to. Not by much, but maybe by like 5 points per weapon. Though if we do that imma ask permission to make monsters do a bit more damage also. But for the most part it seems fine to me. Sorry for the short post... Got Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor today and its kinda becoming a priority for me...

Wat do Wyverns look like?

Thanks Zinny

Sounds good