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Inque Clay

PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:37 am


It is now 4:33 in the morning here in the mystical land of Jersey, and all the WoW crap finally finished downloading.

14 1/2 hours.

It took 14 1/2 BLOODY FREAKING HOURS.

Are we having fun yet?

CUZ I'M SURE AS HELL NOT.

I'd say this game sucks already but I won't have the chance to play it because I need to collapse.

Clever Blizzard, making me waste my first day of your 10 day trial just to make sure the damn thing's on my laptop.

BRAVO.

Excuse me while I go hold down my pillow for a few hours.
PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 4:45 am


I think people would be a whole less enraged by comic-to-film movies if they just thought of them as Cinematic Elseworlds. No, they're never going to be perfect translations, none of them ever are (well, the first Superman was pretty close). And they're never going to be the way you picture it should be in your head, especially since we all interpret and enjoy comics individually. I make like darker iterations of a character while someone else likes lighter ones.
So please please PLEASE stop bitching about the Wolverine movie already. It hasn't even come out yet and already I'm tired of hearing about it.

Ms. Selina Kyle


Zachary T Paleozogt

PostPosted: Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:51 am


I know what you mean. If movies of comics were to be exactly the same as the comic, it would take forever to get something good. take spider-man for instance. The first few issue had him fighting crooks, and the first villain he encounters, is the Vulture. Really, it the Vulture made to be a big movie villain? Hell no. That why they have the arch nemeses a a villain with in the first two films.
But don't bring up Spider-man 3, that was just terrible story wise.

But you know what, notice how you don't see as many people b***h about how cartoon's are not like the comic.
I use to watch the Spider-man cartoon from the 90's. In that Venom attached to Flash Thomson, and since I never read the comic books back then, I always though it was Flash Thomson that was Venom.

Something like that also happened at the store. I was wearing this T-shirt with Hal Jordan with this classic Retro look to it. The cashier saw it and asked, "I though the green lantern was a black guy." Once I realized it, he was talking about the Justice League show. I didn't want to sound like a total dork, so i just said this was the first green lantern (not counting golden age GL)
PostPosted: Sun Apr 12, 2009 5:38 am


Saw the recent WW animated movie last night, and... it was actually entertaining. It was roundabout as accurate as Batman Begins, but they managed to nail the characters pretty well I thought. The ending with Ares and Hades was kind of an ironic bit of bullshit though.

Zachary T Paleozogt
But you know what, notice how you don't see as many people b***h about how cartoon's are not like the comic.
Cartoons are for children, while live-action is serious business.

[Gothic_Lolita]


Nick Joseph Fury

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:56 am


Zachary T Paleozogt
I know what you mean. If movies of comics were to be exactly the same as the comic, it would take forever to get something good. take spider-man for instance. The first few issue had him fighting crooks, and the first villain he encounters, is the Vulture. Really, it the Vulture made to be a big movie villain? Hell no. That why they have the arch nemeses a a villain with in the first two films.
But don't bring up Spider-man 3, that was just terrible story wise.

But you know what, notice how you don't see as many people b***h about how cartoon's are not like the comic.
I use to watch the Spider-man cartoon from the 90's. In that Venom attached to Flash Thomson, and since I never read the comic books back then, I always though it was Flash Thomson that was Venom.

Something like that also happened at the store. I was wearing this T-shirt with Hal Jordan with this classic Retro look to it. The cashier saw it and asked, "I though the green lantern was a black guy." Once I realized it, he was talking about the Justice League show. I didn't want to sound like a total dork, so i just said this was the first green lantern (not counting golden age GL)

Spidey actually fought the Chameleon before the Vulture. And in the cartoon, the symbiote did attach itself to Brock, who bore an unusual likeness to Flash. I loved that show. I actually have it on DVD... sweatdrop

I agree, though. The movies aren't perfect translations, nor are they meant to be. They're two entirely different mediums, and should be treated as such. And I'm not sure why fans are so pissed off over Wolverine. It's not like it's the first comic property the studios have made a complete mess of, and you can bet your a** it won't be the last.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 11:54 am


The Spirit hits DVD today. We got our copies in on Thursday, I think it was, and I've had the pleasure of working at two stores this past week so I got to hear from a wide range of co-workers about just how much they hated it. The only one who made it all the way through the movie told me it took her three glasses of wine before it got almost tolerable. The consensus was that Miller is a good director but needs to be kept on as short a leash as possible.

Nat, I watched Pride and Prejudice, and I'm now reading the novel because the aforementioned co-worker lent it to me after I rented it. Pretty good movie all around; Donald Sutherland was epic and Kiera Knightly was predictably awesome, but Joe Wright has no style whatsoever. He's a talented director and knows how to follow the flow of a scene very well, but there's no way I'd be able to pick his work out of a crowd without analyzing it under a microscope. Maybe I'm not hardcore enough yet, we'll see. I also watched 2001, and while it was quite the achievement, it has a lot of the same plot issues that The Shining did. I watched an interview with Clarke talking about how the film shows man's place in the universe, which I can't say was very well elucidated by the film. I mean, from what I could glean from the Dawn of Man sequence and everything else involving the monoliths, there's the clear idea that they're meaning to tell us that there's something greater than man in the Universe, but that it's purpose in the narrative is to guide man towards transcendence of time and space, so to me it felt a lot more like it was a narrative about the relationship between man and "God." I think if it was more of a "Universe Big; Man Tiny" idea, Dave would have remained insignificant to the infinite rather than become equal to (or a part) of it.

I watched Sunshine shortly after, and I felt that there was a much clearer sense of Boyle communicating the tininess of man when faced with the vastness that is existence (represented by the sun, and outer space in general), and that man is not capable of grasping the infinite, since everyone who came close to it went mad and was literally consumed by it. Epiphany, understanding only comes with annihilation. Nirvana in the most literal sense.

Wormwood Finally saw Seven Samurai and have Yojimbo waiting for me tonight. Mifune is epic win, and Kurosawa is obviously the father of like three quarters of contemporary Hollywood. See if you can't find a film called Branded To Kill, black and white Japanese gangster film full of your brand of lulz and win.

Ms. Karen Starr


Chris Powell

Hilarious Lunatic

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:58 pm


I'm about to take one for the team....I am about to watch The Spirit. I will be back with thoughts....if I survive.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:36 pm


Quick things...

-overacting by everyone or just plain bad acting
-some of the worst dialogue in film
-plot is thin...many tangents that have no point
-take a hint of Wolverine, some Sin City, a bit of Christian Bale as Bats...mix and pour into Eisner's creation and you get The Spirit by Frank Miller.
-pointless Lorelei interludes
-pointless 4th wall breaking
-no more monologues
-you're naming a clone Dildos? Really?

The only positive thing I can say is I liked Scarlett Johansson as Silken Floss.

Chris Powell

Hilarious Lunatic


Natalia Romanova

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:06 pm


Ms. Karen Starr
Nat, I watched Pride and Prejudice, and I'm now reading the novel because the aforementioned co-worker lent it to me after I rented it. Pretty good movie all around; Donald Sutherland was epic and Kiera Knightly was predictably awesome, but Joe Wright has no style whatsoever. He's a talented director and knows how to follow the flow of a scene very well, but there's no way I'd be able to pick his work out of a crowd without analyzing it under a microscope. Maybe I'm not hardcore enough yet, we'll see.


Aw, just because the film is "subtle" does not mean Wright does not have a style. His Pride and Prejudice is far more stylistic then other film versions of the same story; using the camera in a very contemporary way with exceptionally sharp editing (along with a near surprising amount of special effects). In today's world of films I'd say Wright's Prejudice and Atonement stand out away from the crowd, following more in the footsteps of Mulligan's To Kill a Mockingbird and even the work of Douglas Sirk rather then the road many of his fellow young British directors have taken. This does not mean I think he is "better", just making different choices.

Ms. Karen Starr
I also watched 2001, and while it was quite the achievement, it has a lot of the same plot issues that The Shining did. I watched an interview with Clarke talking about how the film shows man's place in the universe, which I can't say was very well elucidated by the film. I mean, from what I could glean from the Dawn of Man sequence and everything else involving the monoliths, there's the clear idea that they're meaning to tell us that there's something greater than man in the Universe, but that it's purpose in the narrative is to guide man towards transcendence of time and space, so to me it felt a lot more like it was a narrative about the relationship between man and "God." I think if it was more of a "Universe Big; Man Tiny" idea, Dave would have remained insignificant to the infinite rather than become equal to (or a part) of it.


Meh. Depends on what you think the monolith is. The monolith is a literal object within the film, but that doesn't mean it is to be understood in the literal - just because it is there and man does not know what it is does not mean it has to represent a higher being. A lot of people believe the monolith to merely represent the potential of man, appearing at times when man furthers/seeks to further himself and at times when he fails. Others feel the monolith is indeed a higher power; while some people see the monolith as a movie screen.

I don't personally believe the film has anything to do with becoming equal or a part of the universe. I feel the film certainly has a large amount to do with the evolution of man and what it is to be human, but I feel it is actually a cautionary tale of sorts. But after all "All art is at once surface and symbol. Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. Those who read the symbol do so at their peril. It is the spectator, and not life, that art really mirrors."


Ms. Karen Starr
I watched Sunshine shortly after, and I felt that there was a much clearer sense of Boyle communicating the tininess of man when faced with the vastness that is existence (represented by the sun, and outer space in general), and that man is not capable of grasping the infinite, since everyone who came close to it went mad and was literally consumed by it. Epiphany, understanding only comes with annihilation. Nirvana in the most literal sense.


The irony here is that, of course, I saw Sunshine as a less effective 2001. xd
PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 8:58 pm


........Am I the only one who actually like The Spirit?...I mean really, no one think it even descent? am I just missing something that some many people hate about it? It can't be something obverse on how bad it is that I'm missing. It's not like the 4 Fast and the Furious movies, those movies about rhythm, spoof film (epic movie, date movie, meet the Spartans), poorly made kid film, any Eddy Murphy film with him in a fat suit that not the first nutty professor, where you can see just how bad it is.


Really, what am I missing? gonk

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Zachary T Paleozogt


Nick Joseph Fury

PostPosted: Tue Apr 14, 2009 9:35 pm


Genre isn't the only factor to determine a film's quality. Most of the time, it isn't a factor at all. I mean, there've been good spoof movies (I, for one, thought Walk Hard was friggin' brilliant) and I didn't think the original Fast and the Furious was all that terrible. Personally, I thought the Spirit was terrible because of the ridiculous dialog, stale acting, unbelievable characters and the almost complete absence of plot.

Since I've been boning up on my Hunter S. Thompson as of late, I figured I'd give 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas' another watch and, man, am I glad I did. Johnny Depp channeled Thompson (or 'Raoul Duke') perfectly. Del Toro was good too, but it was Depp's stream-of-consciousness monologue that held that movie together. I was going to watch 'Where the Buffalo Roam,' but I don't think I can see anyone else in that role.

Just re-read Survivor too, and I'm still amazed at how great it is. Palahniuk's ability to take facets of our culture like celebrity or materialism or reality TV and show them to us in his own satirical, twisted-but-hilarious way still gets me every time.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:34 pm


Coming Soon form Popcap: Plants v. Zombies

[Gothic_Lolita]


Wormwood Gentleman Corpse

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:04 pm


Ms. Karen Starr

Wormwood Finally saw Seven Samurai and have Yojimbo waiting for me tonight. Mifune is epic win, and Kurosawa is obviously the father of like three quarters of contemporary Hollywood. See if you can't find a film called Branded To Kill, black and white Japanese gangster film full of your brand of lulz and win.

Kurosawa is indeed pretty goddamn awesome. And if you like Seven Samurai, Yojimbo I think is even better. (Or more accessible, at any rate.)
And I will totally keep an eye out for that. I've been lacking in yakuza goodness for a while now, gotta get back in the game.
PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:30 pm


I was just watching Rashomon earlier today. Sadly, haven't seen Seven Samurai or Yojimbo yet. My knowledge of Eastern cinema could use some work. sweatdrop

Nick Joseph Fury


Chris Powell

Hilarious Lunatic

PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:36 pm


Have I mentioned how badass Batman: Arkham Asylum looks? Here is a kickass clip featuring Bane.
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