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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 7:33 pm


Probably.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:23 pm


probably cowering in a corner somewhere. mrgreen

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 8:37 pm


*pats Rizu on the head* it's okay baby midget child person. xp
PostPosted: Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:37 pm


whaaaa....? exclaim i ain;t no midget!

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:48 am


sure sure...rizu.

anyways I need advice. You all know my parton Goddess is Lilith. I am having troubles, I feel an influence of Morrigan as well. And even the quiet lady Hel......it's like I have many Goddesses. I know I couldn't have many because, like me, Lilith is a jealous one. I'm thinking maybe with Hel and Morrigan, they know I care for them since I honored them both on Samhain, by dressing as each of them.

I am also have tons of trouble finding my God. I feel Lilith is jealous and strong enough to play both roles, but I would like to honor a God. Tyr keeps coming to mind for me. I feel I need to find someone strong enough to be near Lilith, since she really doesn't have a consort of her own.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 12:56 am


I'll tackle your question of a god first, as that one is easiest for me. Kali Ma is my patron, but since Shiva is her consort (or rather, she is an incarnation of his consort) I use him to balance her. It's more difficult with a patron goddess who is not associated with any consort however. There are no easy answers for this, any way you look at it. Try meditating on the question, see what comes to mind. "Test-drive" some to see how well his energy meshes with hers. Most importantly, keep an open mind, as it might be one you didn't really expect.

As for the other goddesses exerting influence in your life, it could just be they want their recognition too. Not as a patron, but if every once in a while you were to say, "hi, I know you're there, you are awesome in awesome ways." Or perhaps they are reminding you that they are still there, regardless of what happens, and that they also have their purpose in things. Once again, try meditating. It might help clear things up.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:12 am


thanks. I just want to make sure the God is right. I don't want someone who looks at women like conquests like Zeus, I think it would only right to find a God that doesn't have that female assosiation. It's kinda like matchmaker. I'm thinking the right God I may not have even come across yet, like he's in a pantheon I am not familar with.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:16 am


Admitedly I'm biased, but have you considered Shiva? Ya'know, he might be a good balance for Lilith. But like I said, I'm biased...

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:35 am


You know I just searched the net seeking Lilith's consort.....there had to have been some guy out there. First I found a demon king named Pazuzu, but it turned out he was supposed to protect humans from Lilith thingies.....I thought....maybe....you know keep Lilith's temper in check. Then upon deeper looking I came across the older names, Lillu and Lilitu. I orginally thought they were both Lilith. Not true. Lillu is an inkubus type and Lilitu is a succubus type, as we all know Lilith is associated with succubi. Then I read a little further and came to the conclusion that the reason I can't find a God for Lilith is because she is infact Lillu and Lilitu, both. It almost seems she is both. I dunno it's a theory. I dunno if it's true, but it would make sense.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:36 am


I thought of Shiva, since he's pretty and has something to do with snakes, as does Lilith, and Lilith is more prone to want a strong, main God to respect her, and Shiva is respectable.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:40 am


Honestly, I think he would be a good balance for her. I don't know if they would get along, but it doesn't hurt to ask.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:44 am


What's the deal with Shiva and the serpent? Do you know?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:51 am


Quite a few things, it seems. They represent the ego, also the cycle of life and death, and so forth. Found a link here which might help you out.

Edit: On a semi-related note, I got myself a copy of the Bhagavad Gita tonight. Link to wikipedia article here. Can't wait to read it, it looks interesting.
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 1:57 am


Ok I think I might focus on the Egyptian God Seth, I need to so more research on him. He's always had a bad rep (even if his is semi deserved) anyways he was sometimes seen as the consort of Asarte (weird match, eh) on wikipedia it says: In Jewish mythology, She is referred to as Ashtoreth, supposedly interpreted as a female demon of lust in Hebrew monotheism. which sounds an awful lot like Lilith, I know it's a long shot.

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