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Valiae

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:33 pm



Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if I had to perish twice,


Valiae says...

>> Whoa! When I was reading envy's post, an idea hit me like a bag of bricks. I wanna get this out in the open before I start writing another wall of text, even though it is not entirely thought out. Could we base the theme on "Around the world in 80 days"? So, everyone is traveling together, and we stop in different locations around the world, where we will party for a day, and then move on to a different place. Perhaps we are all traveling aboard a steampunk airship and we stop to have a victorian tea party in london. Then we go to greece for an olympic/feast with the gods celebration, then we land somewhere else and stay the night in a haunted mansion, where the guests have to solve a murder mystery ect, ect, ect.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:34 pm


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Good ideas Envy!
^^
However if we're going to leave each event open...
Why don't we just start them all at once like Val said?
'Cause if we do it that way,
And say it's a week long.
Then one celebration's rp gets a week to progress.
While one only gets a day.
I'd like to see all the themes get an equal chance to flourish.


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Valiae

PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:42 pm



Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if I had to perish twice,


Valiae says...

>> So for the whole chain of command thing, I actually like Envy's idea a lot! This way, inactive members won't get positions of power when they don't deserve it, and other members who become more active have the chance to hold a position of power. Just to clarify though, the Ball coordinator and sub coordinators will be permanent positions held by nominated members, even if they must take a short leave of abscence during the planning stage? Just wondering, because I don't think it wise to replace the ball's main hosts and cohosts at the drop of a hat unless absolutely necessary.

And I agree with Angelishia, all of the rooms should have an equal chance to develop their plots fully.

And just wondering, but is anyone else getting a little anxious to find out who the new host is so that we can get this ball rolling? I know I am ;]

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I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
~Robert Frost
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:09 pm


Pixilated Envy
Once I found out that I was nominated as host I did start some random brain storming the administration food chain a tad bit, too. Which I based on how the planning of this year went. Mind you its not entirely ironed out, but ..

My idea is more of a revolving council of 7 to 9 people (Cus I like those numbers). These people are in charge of everything from public relations, to treasury, etc. Now they are not permanent positions that could change either month to month or prolly bi-monthly. If the person on council remains active they are likely to retain their position, but if they have to go inactive either due to personal reasons (a leave of absence, a vacation, etc) or because there attention seems to be moving away from the ball a new person would be placed into that spot based on their activity.

These people are versed in whats going on in not just one thread-- but the overall ball. They're also likely the group that would be holding the mini events/fundraisers throughout the year-- hence why they are needed to be active to retain their positions and those who want these roles should one of the people holding them need to step down would also need to be active.


Where as I know that most people will be more interested in one theme over an other-- I honestly don't like the idea of placing a lot of focus on dividing the teams based on the themes that interested them.

If the teams were based on anything, it would be based on art, plot development, contest developers, public relations and even rehearsals/auditions. I'd go as far as to say that I'd want the threads set up (assuming they are official threads) long before we determined who would staff them.

I won't lie when I say that an artist doesn't always make for a good hostess, nor does a writer always make for a good artist-- but lets face it..

How many of you ran into hosts or co-hosts who slid right into an esteemed position and did not live up to their role due to inactivity? Setting up a system where they must be active should eliminate some of that. It will also eliminate anyone who gets on board with just the intent to host or do nothing at all-- while also keeping most people on the same page.

Some of the threads in the 7th had like 20 artists working with them, others had like none.. or barely adequate artists volunteering. I also noticed that rooms that might have lacked in art had great writers. Me for instance, I'm great (I think?) in coming up with off the wall contests ideas would most likely be better on a contest development team. Why not assign a contest developer to each thread and a artist to each thread? If they're not on the same team we stand to have the issue where again in the 7th.. I think the vast majority of us all ended up doing very similar contests in our rooms.

and anime might be versed very well in steam punk and she will likely be someone who contributes a lot to that aspect of the ball but she might not be a great creative writer or good at coming up with unique contests. (sorry anime if you are versed in those forgive me, I don't think I have figured out all of your strong points/weaknesses yet-- so its just a random example.)

But what I do know is Val is someone who is awesome in proof reading and editing. (look at how she cleans up my points!) why let her skills go to waste by assigning her to doing what she does best in just one thread when it could essentially be her task on all of the threads.

And yes, Envy is sneaky, she has another motive on why she would set it up this way verses keeping a team for each thread - people are more apt to know what is going on in all of the threads and not just their own. And then we won't have too much swiss cheese action going on (hopefully).

I love uniformity - on the flip side it would run the risk of taking away some of the individual personality of the various threads. But putting people in their strong suits, as well as potentially advocating a bit of competition could progress us to bigger and better things.

Oh and.. another thing I know.. artists like fame and they also like contests where they can compete against other artists (Well many of them, not all.) Hell.. scratch that, everyone likes fame and when something is exclusive and they have to "compete" they tend to want to do it all the more than setting up a thread begging for artists to help us.

Set up some competitions! Something like. "best thread layout" for steam punk or whatever.. or even various categories. Should they win they get to be the one who has their layout used at the ball for all to see! And a credit back to them and/or their shop. The biggest prize being that they are showcased, but maybe even add in a thank you letter, too. Not a huge monetary prize that blows our budget, but a lil something to show appreciation. Same could be said for the writing aspects of the ball or contests. Meanwhile while doing the mini-events we are already in the position to net work with various artists who might be interested in adding art. etc.

One thing of the 7th I'd likely continue to keep is the set-up forum. Only difference being the deadline aspect (as I'd want the threads done and out of the way long before it was time to do the ball). I'd recommend that forum being something like that of a wiki project where various people are constantly contributing and expanding on it.


In short: a tree like/hierarchy formation of power. Ball Coordinator - 2 Sub coordinators who are in the position to replace the coordinator on a moment's notice, advise the coordinator, and an appointed position by the ball coordinator since they are someone who would need to be able to work well with the coordinator and be trusted by him/her- and a council of 7 (more or less depending on needs) who would be overseeing various aspects, art, writing, contests, public relations, thread set-up manager, treasury etc, . - Council would be the subject to activity and the most likely to have a revolving door in who holds those spots. Council members would need to be able to work hand in hand with each other and the ball coordinators-- while also delegating responsibilities to those who were on their team. In a nut shell, Val, I think we both have the same theory on a tree like operation, we just have a difference in opinion on how their roles should be.


This makes alot more sense then the previous ball's coordination. I think a new form of selection would also benifit this new system. For example, most year's to apply for a host position one had to simply fill out a short application. I believe it would be best to have a more in-depth application, that will draw out the strengths and weaknesses of each candidate and direct them to the appropriate position. I realize that in this system, not everyone would get exactly what they wanted, but we would have a stronger team overall, people would not have to work overtime to catchup on those skills they lack, as well as with the new coordination method, people would be forced to be active in order to retain that position.

I believe that the council should not be too small, but not be to big either. Depending on who was in control of what, they could also have someone working under them as a study on the council who would be able to jump in on the council for them on short notice if something happened.


@ Val

I believe that the ball coordinators and sub-coordinators should be perminant positions, however they should have an under study, either on the council or not, who which they trust and can provide information too in case of an emergency.

Honestly, im most anxious about the plot right now- I want to figure out what is going on so i can stop not sleeping and plotting glorious themes in my head at night ^^

xTrueBlissx
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Crystalloid
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 8:24 pm


I don't feel like I can really jump in right now and say anything about the host/staff system (or anything, for that matter. You lot are too good for me!), seeing as I don't have any experience. So, I'll let you all handle that, since I was foolish enough to not get involved earlier. >.>

While I know we're a little far from it, I am also concerned about the plot, like Bliss. With all these unique themes coming together somehow, we really have to make sure we tie the loose ends together.

Although, I am wondering which exact themes we would be using. I am hearing a lot of different places/times/etc, but have we sorted out/come up with which ones we'll most likely use?

If that's already been done, then it'd be nice to get caught up. xD
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:19 pm


Crystal - Honestly this thread's main intention was to brain storm broad themes we would use. Throw something out there like us doing threads based on cereal and we'll take you seriously and bounce back at you with possibly running a grocery story. Its just a matter of getting those creative wheels flowing. We're technically not really getting anything done.. but, at the same time we are.. because before you know it we're all going to come up with some super awesome aha moment where we all come to like something! (I hope?)

We're honestly very off topic which is why you are getting so massively confused-- but generally that is very common in any brain storming session-- and since most of what we're discussing is useful to the ball its not bad to be off topic since we're not so off topic that it doesn't pertain to the ball.


As for the permanence of those 3 positions: I would like to hope those same people held the position for the entire year-- but, if there real life or their interest level changes than I don't see any reason why they shouldn't be replaced. But the idea is the three of them should be so much on the same page that if one of them quit the position or went MIA-- the entire guild wouldn't feel the brunt of their absence. If 30-60 days had passed and we did not see the leader it would be foolish to allow them to retain such an important role. It is however a slightly different situation if say someone had finals going on and they had to temporarily turn their focus away from the guild so that they could focus on school. RL and the like should always take a priority-- but, a reasonable leader should be able to estimate if they feel they just do not have enough time to dedicate to the project and appoint someone who could. (Or at least inform the guild and their subs that they will be gone for a certain amount of time.) And under this system if either of the three had to leave there would still be 2 others that would hopefully be able to step up.

Kinda like real life government if the president steps down, dies, or gets impeached.

Pixilated Envy
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:22 pm


Valiae

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if I had to perish twice,


Valiae says...

>> Whoa! When I was reading envy's post, an idea hit me like a bag of bricks. I wanna get this out in the open before I start writing another wall of text, even though it is not entirely thought out. Could we base the theme on "Around the world in 80 days"? So, everyone is traveling together, and we stop in different locations around the world, where we will party for a day, and then move on to a different place. Perhaps we are all traveling aboard a steampunk airship and we stop to have a victorian tea party in london. Then we go to greece for an olympic/feast with the gods celebration, then we land somewhere else and stay the night in a haunted mansion, where the guests have to solve a murder mystery ect, ect, ect.
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I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
~Robert Frost
Yah, I was really diggin this concept, btw.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:25 pm


Valiae

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if I had to perish twice,


Valiae says...

>> @AMK: Right, the mules will be just like GMs. And how the hosts will act still needs to be determined by the planning committe, so thats not set in stone just yet.

Also, a heads up for everyone:

I made an 8th Annual Ball meebo chatroom! Go to meebo.com, and you can connect through your meebo, msn, aim, yahoo, or myspace accounts. Then, just click the meebo rooms link at the top of the page. In the search box that says "see more..." type "8th annual ball" and search. Click on the room link that comes up and type in the password, which is: 8thannualball. I hope to see many of you using this for preliminary brainstorming, since communication will be key in making this a successful ball!

And now, I'm going to bed. Goodnight everyone! <3
P.S. Remember to stay on topic in the chatroom and stick to using your gaia usernames so that people know who you are!

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I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
~Robert Frost


we should post this in a separate sticky thread so that new members know about it too, if we get them =D

animemangakuryujiru


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:32 pm


Valiae

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if I had to perish twice,


Valiae says...

>> Whoa! When I was reading envy's post, an idea hit me like a bag of bricks. I wanna get this out in the open before I start writing another wall of text, even though it is not entirely thought out. Could we base the theme on "Around the world in 80 days"? So, everyone is traveling together, and we stop in different locations around the world, where we will party for a day, and then move on to a different place. Perhaps we are all traveling aboard a steampunk airship and we stop to have a victorian tea party in london. Then we go to greece for an olympic/feast with the gods celebration, then we land somewhere else and stay the night in a haunted mansion, where the guests have to solve a murder mystery ect, ect, ect.
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I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
~Robert Frost


When I first read your idea here,the first thought that came to my mind was "HELL YEAH!" XD

That is a good idea! I didnt actually read throught the whole post yet...I just saw Around The World In 80 Days XD But as soon as I saw that, I was like "We're gonna be on a airship travelling!" and then you said that too XD I think this idea might actually work if we want to incorporate so many different things together.

Although about the different themes a day thing, truthfully, I wouldnt dress for the occasion either D: too much of a hassle. But if we're all stuck on an airship, 'pretend' that the guests only brought one change of clothes (lol for a 80 day trip). Then perhaps we can release a early schedule( as a heads up) for which theme is on which day and time, and so guests can dress according to the theme they like? Well, thats what I thought anyway <_<;

Anyways, I'm going to back out of the hosts stuffs systems for now D: my head is aching from reading all that @_@ trying to digest it <_<; (took me lik 20 mins to read through that <_<;

Pixy- lol its fine about the example XD I think I suck at coming up with contests too! Though I like to think I can write well....XD;


Oh,and about the art and layouts for the ball; since we're going to be hiring people...does that mean people on the committee already cant do it? crying Cause I actually thought of doing art for the ball, but then I read you're gonna hire others and have (probably) a contest to see whose is the best...?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:09 pm


About art contests - its actually a way to avoid "hiring" and getting "work" done in a fun way. I imagine some art we will have no other choice but to commission and pay for, but the art contests is actually a good venue to be able to get good artists who WANT to come on board (like you).. to help out. The contests is just a fun way to get people involved and also to get our cause and what we're about out there. The more mini-events we do throughout the year will make it easier to get more helpers and fresh blood. If a contest for say a thread layout is done everyone and anyone could participate regardless of their position in the guild. (So long as they follow the rules of said contest.) But, only difference being-- in a contest there would be no guarantee that your submission would be on the front page unless the vast majority felt yours was the best.

I imagine we could even have guild only contests, too. But, working with the public has many perks. A theory that I kept in my fundraiser thread was a good helper was far more valuable than a gold donation. And if we had to buy all of our art we would blow a contest budget out of the water. So don't you worry anime, these mini-events would never be able to eliminate your role as an artist.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:17 pm



>.> so...much...text. XDD wow. This place is really looking rather spectacular. it's blowing me away how close everyone got for next year. I'm most anxious to see who the new host for next year too, From the looks of it, everyone has there own great ideas on how to change the ball and make it better. I have read through everything and all I can say is WOW it should be one great ball next year.

^^; i wanna say sorry for not being around much too. lol i've been taking a break from gaia to do some irl stuffs (and game >.>) I have been lurking in the shadows though reading all the ideas.



@Envy: I really love that idea you had for the host system. It will really make people WANT the positions they seek, for the whole year. Not just stop and take seasonal breaks like for the 7th. It actually inspires me to not be so lazy and do some work ^^.

I like the idea of having the week long ball. but like Val and angel said. All the topics should be the same length to give them the time to flourish. The around the world idea seems pretty great (love that movie) I'd totally go around and dress up as much as i can!!!!
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:26 pm


@Envy: Ah, I see. Thank you for helping unmuddle my mind. Things are a little clearer now. As for your awesome moment, I'm confident it'll happen soon with all these wonderful minds at work. xD

Crystalloid
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TemporalMeteor

PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 5:04 am


X_X so many words.....
i think that all of these ideas about staffing a great. i like the idea of a "hierarchy" that can easily be switched around. i think that in a few more pages we should open up another thread to to organize some of these things and maybe even vote on a few ideas. kinda like a preliminary round in a tournament, which now that i think of it we could have a tournament for the gods or king or whatever as the theme, with the ultimate winner taking home a rare item and such
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 6:30 am


have a punk rave like theme would be cool or maybe a halloween ball theme or a anime them like naruto or bleach or even a sports theme well there's is lots of themes we could do let me think about it more okay

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:17 am


a rave might be fun...
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