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Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:29 pm


Chris Powell
Hot Topic?


Trendy indeed. Have to enjoy the corporate owned money machine for the nonconformist masses.

Has a discussion of interesting changes to the new Star Trek mythos for this movie been had?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:29 pm


Natalia Romanova
Really Powell? Someone says "trendy" and you think "Hot Topic"?

Well, we know who isn't trendy.
What's wrong with a little commercialized rebellion?

[Gothic_Lolita]


Chris Powell

Hilarious Lunatic

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:29 pm


He said "scene trendy" and I always people say that Hot Topic is scene/emo trendyware. I admit I know nothing about trendy clothes for I shun trendy and go with comfy.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:31 pm


Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex
Has a discussion of interesting changes to the new Star Trek mythos for this movie been had?


Not here. I've avoided hearing of the changes as best I can, kind of want to see it blind.

Natalia Romanova


Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:34 pm


Natalia Romanova
Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex
Has a discussion of interesting changes to the new Star Trek mythos for this movie been had?


Not here. I've avoided hearing of the changes as best I can, kind of want to see it blind.


Oh, well you are indeed in for a surprise. Interesting bits of the past have been shown from the new comics coming out acting as the films prequel.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 8:37 pm


Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex
Natalia Romanova
Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex
Has a discussion of interesting changes to the new Star Trek mythos for this movie been had?


Not here. I've avoided hearing of the changes as best I can, kind of want to see it blind.


Oh, well you are indeed in for a surprise. Interesting bits of the past have been shown from the new comics coming out acting as the films prequel.


As long as Spock isn't actually Kirks brother or something, I probably won't be surprised as I assume/know there will be a lot of changes from the original series.

Natalia Romanova


Technologist Tony Stark

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:03 pm


Well. Scene is a term that gets abused an awful lot. It means several things to people outside of it, and pretty much just one thing to people inside it (or at least more than casual observers).

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Okay kids. Enough trash talk. Let's have a neutral definition, because it's a bit childish to use on online dictionary to attack people. PLEASE.

The word "scene" coves a large spectrum throughout recent history, but its most modern definition is used to describe certian subcultures and movements. The most notoriously famous and targeted is the alternative music scene, or more specifically, branches of the alternative music scene such as hardcore, indie, fashoionxcore, etc. A breed of scenesters (people on the scene) has begun to come to the forefront. These scenesters are usually very music-savvy and loyal to a few specific genres (typically hardcore, metal, indie, retro, 80's new wave, classic rock, etc. to name a few), of which they dress to exemplify. It is hard to pin down a style for a scene male or female, considering the trends amongst them vary from coast to coast, and certian fads come in and out within their ranks. Typically, though, many scene kids will have facial piercings, tattoos, and longer hair. It is not unusual to see teased hair with long bangs on males, or short fauxhawks (a mohawk without the sides shaved, a fashion-friendly version) on females. It is almost a throwback to the revolution of Britian's glam era, very androgynous and fresh. Scenesters take a lot of pride in their overall image, and often they appreciate shock value. Oftentimes they are thrifty, employing their abilities as bargian-hunters and do-it-yourself gurus to do something unique with their style. Large vintage sunglasses, retro patterns, tight jeans, classic metal/band tees, plastic jewelry, and heavy eye makeup are just some of the incorperations into scene style for either sex. This style and showmanship is at its height during shows (concerts), where often scene kids will meet their friends and size up strangers who visit their turf. There indeed is competition among scenesters...sometimes friendly, sometimes not. Shows are in fact not just concerts, but often a means of socialization for those on the scene. Those people who partake in scene lifestyle often choose to date/socialize only with those like them, which can cause bitterness or rejection to outsiders.

The music scene is often associated with other areas that scenesters are interested in, which is liekely, art, photography, creative writing, poetry, tattoos & piercings, civil rights, animal rights, etc. Many scene kids have strong beliefs about these things and consider those who do not to be "posers." They feel that their scene style is not only a fashion statement, but an all-encompassing lifestyle. Many scene kids incorperate their future plans into their lifestyle, going into careers such as journalism, photography, artistry, piercing, tattooing, working for magazines, being musicians, hairstylists, running venues and/or coffee shops, etc. This tends to cause scene kids to congregate, visit, or even move to big cities to find opportunities to meet other scenesters, find jobs that suit them, or to live where they have a plethora of activities that they enjoy readily at their disposal.

Recently internet revolutions like myspace.com have provided a new means for the ideas of scene culture to be spead, for scenesters to find new friends, bands, and activities. Scensters design stylish and graphic profile pages to both draw attention to themselves and to find others like them, and many people have joined up with the scene fad due to internet advertising.

The downside of many scene atmospheres is that some scene kids tend to develop a superior mentality. Some who are especially popular and affluent can make it harder for the younger, yet-aspiring scenesters to join in with the subculture. This is not always the case, however. Different areas breed different demographics of scene kids. Perhaps part of their attitude comes from the problem that scenesters have begun to feel threatened about their culture being jeopardized because of a sort of trickle down effect. The internet is permitting easy access for anyone who would want to don scene-esque style and jump right in to a culture that scenesters feel they have built from the ground up and developed into a complex lifestyle. However, this lends many to get caught up in popularity contests in local areas as well as on the world wide web. Unfortunately, this can also lead to rifts in scenes. Groups of hardcore scenesters start "crews," often characterized by fierce brotherhood to the point of violence against others who are unlike them or who are in other crews.

The scene is dividing amongst itself, due to purists who feel the scene is about music only, and those who have taken the scene fashion to be almost, if not equally, as important as the music itself. Some of the fashionable scenesters stick to their musical roots, but often due to the aforementioned trickle-down effect, there are people joining the scene who are not interested in the music, but are only in it for the attention.

Thus, the scene will continue to divide. Whether they will admit it or not, kids interested in this lifestyle of excitement, concerts, body modification, fashion, and overall alluringly unusual aesthetics will continually be labeled as "scene." They chose an alternative path because they wanted to find acceptance elsewhere. Now, they face a community just like any other: one of all different types of people, who have different opinions and standards. It has its pros and cons, ups and downs, just like any lifestyle does.
"The punk scene around here is popular."

"Those kids are not scene."

"Check out that scene kid's hair!"

"I'm surprised the hardcore scene has become so big."

"I'm not dressed very scene today."

"Every scene kid seems to be getting this piercing!"


In short scene is what happened when the internet and retail fashion imploded the divisions between various art, fashion, and music lifestyles. It became increasingly difficult to pick out all but the most idiosyncratic iterations of a given scene because of social and artistic cross pollination.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:28 pm


When I inquired, my ex-girlfriend told me that scene-kids were "happy emo kids." Then again, there's a reason she's my ex-girlfriend.

On the clothing front, I think I own 3 t-shirts without bands on them. One's the Punisher, one's the Joker and one's Army of Darkness. I love my graphic tees. Most often accompanied by jeans. I've no idea what category that would put me in, but I really don't care.

On the "nerd" front, I guess I'm primarily a comic-book nerd. But I love movies and music almost, if not just, as much, so maybe I'm just a pop culture whore.

I'll definitely be seeing Star Trek. Never even watched the TV show, but I'll probably see the movie, if only because of Abrams' involvement. Lost is overrated as hell, but still a TV show worth watching. (Despite the fact that I haven't in 3 seasons.) His revamp of the Mission Impossible series was great. And Cloverfield was exactly what it needed to be. The cast also has me interested. Love Pegg, Cho and Yelchin. I liked Zack Quinto in Heroes and 24, but Spock is such a radically different character, so who knows if he'll pull it off. Chris Pine got on my nerves in the trailer, but I figure I'll give him a shot anyways.

Nick Joseph Fury


Jonah Hex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:31 pm


I happily exist without a need to apply an overtly suffocating label on my interests and personality.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:34 pm


Yeah, gotta love being outside it all. I remember a way back when instance when I was called straight-edged. I had no idea what that meant. Though I don't know if that still pertains to current lingo or if it's fallen into obscurity.

Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex


Ms. Selina Kyle

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:38 pm


Jonah Hex
I happily exist without a need to apply an overtly suffocating label on my interests and personality.


You would say that, you comic-nerd geek-chic mouse lover.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:43 pm


There's straight edge and Straight Edge (sxe). The proper noun is a movement that came out of the eighties punk scene and tends to proliferate in the contemporary hardcore scene (a subgenre of punk typified by Terror). To claim Straight Edge, you abstained from drinking, drugs, smoking, and sex. Unfortunately Straight Edge groups are prone to violence and the movement as a whole attracts a significant portion of the neo nazis that exist on the fringes of punk.

Generally speaking, if someone refers to you as being straight edge, they mean clean cut.

Technologist Tony Stark


Doctor_Nathaniel_Essex

PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:45 pm


Technologist Tony Stark
There's straight edge and Straight Edge (sxe). The proper noun is a movement that came out of the eighties punk scene and tends to proliferate in the contemporary hardcore scene (a subgenre of punk typified by Terror). To claim Straight Edge, you abstained from drinking, drugs, smoking, and sex. Unfortunately Straight Edge groups are prone to violence and the movement as a whole attracts a significant portion of the neo nazis that exist on the fringes of punk.

Generally speaking, if someone refers to you as being straight edge, they mean clean cut.


Hmmm, well the confusion is lifted.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:55 pm


You learn things when you hang out in tattoo shops. I wouldn't say that I'm scene, but I'm not about to lose any sleep over the fact that scene fashion has appropriated converse sneakers, studded belts, facial piercings, vans, and plastic framed glasses.

Technologist Tony Stark

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