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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:42 pm
He's got 2/3 inside, with the one ton sphere with the hot dog up on top, the gooey bits trying to gooey themselves on j00, and the half ton sphere down below. The rock is currently filling the legal area and not moving to any noticable degree, save for that filling the shaft.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 12:57 pm
Y'know, I've been tempted to call Jello for an opinion on that 1/3 out of bounds thing you've had going on forever for a while now. I'd rather have a real fight than win by DQ with people who can display a little intelligence or common sense, but, I mean, is there any sort of physical injury I can possibly render that will mean jack s**t to this thing, if I manage to injury it at all? It seems like it's a no, and with something that not only vastly overpowers my strongest character and it can't seem to be harmed by anything? I mean, no offense, but this isn't what I had in mind coming into the tourney, though I certainly expected there would be people I'd fight who wouldn't be... you know... actually fighting, just playing god with everything in attempt to kill me.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:57 pm
Clash's original ruling (Tac asked him about this way waaay back, in preparation for his hugesauce characters) was that as long as any part of a fighter's body is in bounds, the fighter is considered safely in bounds; to ring-out someone, therefore, you must get their ENTIRE body out of bounds. Incidentally, I wonder how many people have ******** up by digging ten-foot-deep pits and luring their opponents into them, then claiming ring-out?
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 1:59 pm
Playing god and doing overkill is why I made Mindblaze, to just kinda smack n00bs and beat the hell out of the FFA forum (not bracket). I understand your frustration, seeing as that is exactly why I stopped playing Mindblaze for the most part outside the Fortress. I'm only using Mindblaze in GTB as filler, cause thats really what I started as in this tournament cause I was only going to enter four times to start with. I somehow got up to 19...
As for the Ring-out, the partial thing has come up before in other instances and its been decided at least two or three times that the subject must leave the legal entirely. Though I do think it should be 'entirely or without hope of getting back from whats left in the ring,' cause people could totally just leave a chunk of their arm in the arena and say it's legal. XD I'd smack them for it cause thats stupid, but you get the idea. >.>
As for injury to the flesh, while it doesn't do as much as it would to anyone that needs their anatomy, if you shred it enough its not like he'll be able to do anything with the small pieces. The gooey portion is really only good for being gooey right now. Stuff hurts, just not in the normal way. All those pieces that were likely torn from the first half-ton sphere fell away harmlessly, and won't be coming back. Just kinda got tear that s**t up. XD
Edit to Gelgel: If I'm making a hole it's going to be bigger than that s**t. XD
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 2:13 pm
Well, it's just that it seemed as if what I shredded was functioning normally. Constant shredding seems unlikely, but, though with no more tricks that'd be of any use against Mindblaze left up my sleeve, am very good at finding new ways to use my limited resources.
And I remember that rule. I would have thought it was more for case of a severed body part being flung outside the arena to call ring out, or else someone's foot slipping too far but them remaining in. I had forgotten that clause, but would figure it meant the entirity of the main body, being as, like you said, someone could just anchor a peice of themself in it and do whatever they wanted. Though, being as, unless I'm mistaken, these are three entirely seperate bodies all controlled by Mindblaze, it seems like... I have no clue. 1/3 of his body is DQ'ed? xd
Eh, I have more stuff to do but I'll try and post when I finish.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:31 pm
For the record, as it's completely subjective, we seem to all have their own opinions on it... especially since the rules don't clearly state.
What you asked Clash about, Tac, was teleportation. Whether or not people could reach an arm through a space hole and have it come out somewhere else. While I'm willing to agree on that much, I'm not so flexible with the out of bounds line.
In my opinion, if you step over the line, you're considered out. Just like with any sport. In the case of a tourney like this, that's considered as any part of the main body, meaning severed appendages not withstanding, a foot, a hand, a toe sliding an inch over... the line is the line.
You split into 3 and one of those is out. I'd call that as a voluntary ring out considering all three of those objects are under your control. Get them all in, or I'm going to have to call that one.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:49 pm
He's had one of three out for a while now. XP Bottom of page 2 one peice left to go get a hot dog, I think?
Tac, I think this means we need to start figuring out how high what is in comparison to original ground level. Considering all the leaping about of the arena. I'm fairly certain Rivven is somewhere above ground level in that tube thingy Mindblaze made...
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:53 pm
You want a ring out called?
You said you didn't want it to go by DQ, so I was going to give like... a posts worth of time to get the ******** inbounds.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:08 pm
Honestly, this match is just... ick.
I'm honestly not sure if I wanna go with that or keep the fight up. I mean, despite how it is, Tac is one of the people who's worth fighting, so...
I think I'll settle to this. If the match keeps going to the point where we're holding up the next round of FFA starting, I'll take the DQ, unless I say otherwise by then (which I can do in the mod request so it doesn't get lost in all the OOC if you like). Pardon, Tac, but, y'know.
Edit: Clearing my head a moment, I'm not sure that's entirely sensical. But something like that. Maybe I oughta just drop Tac a PM and see how strongly interested he is in continuing this fight/the FFA, because I'm too damn nice to do something for myself without thinking about everyone else. I don't really care if I win, or even pull to the end rounds, but I would like to get a few more chances to try matches here.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:09 pm
If Viper wants to fight, we'll fight.
I'm not going to be made to look like a pansy and continue onward by simple DQ.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 4:15 pm
I'll unlock that fight then, but I'll expect frequent posting. xp
@ Fish: I understand it, but it's not my call to make beyond the leniency I've voiced on it.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:15 pm
Jello, the questions I had about ring-out on this subject were not based on teleportation. Tell me, what happens when a creature that is 350 feet tall wants to participate? Does he lose before he can even participate? I asked Clash about this aspect of the ring-out rules and he told me the entire entity must leave the ring. See Oelden vs Kiyoshi Takeda in the FFA thread that was abandonned for this GGN. Oelden filled the legal area and then some, he didn't ring-out. I wouldn't have done it unless I was working off precident that would allow me to take such action.
Tell ya what, get the opinions of Nightz and Moo (or I'll do it), they're usually on at all hours of the night. If they really think I should be DQed I'll scoot back inside the legal area.
Fish, I'd think he'd be somewhere near the center of the huge slab, about 150ft up from the original ground level. Maybe lower, but the entire thing is above ground level, so... And yeah, despite how shitty the fight has become because of how Mindblaze is god in a box, I'd like to continue. The only problem with a forfeit on my part is that you'd have a good chance (2/7) of fighting another of my stupidly powerful characters in the next round.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:47 pm
Much as this conflicts with my style, I'd like to request the match in Barton, Omi Barsait versus Cleric Pei, re-opened.
It turns out, Pei had an issue with his power, putting it simple. Hence, his lack of posting. I'm fine with winning by time-out, but not if the latee' had no choice. =P
I do, however, request that a five-day posting limit is enforced.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:14 pm
*Whaps Jello in the nose with a newspaper.*
Not only is it not summoning, but I explained to you everything I was doing in the fight over AIM as well as my goals for winning the battle and such. =P You gave the bloody okay on the strategy before I even started it.
EDIT: Oh, and Trei, I've been wanting to say that this whole fight. xD
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:29 pm
Posted, Vipey... ::doesn't bother checking::
....hours to spare!! >=D
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