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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 8:29 am
SD Paul Prospero I side with Sythril on this, but that's all I'll say on the matter. Since eggs aren't in Teito's interests. Speaking of which, I need to post him sometime. My god. He probably has mushrooms growing on him by now! Anyone want to help out? Also, enjoy this picture of a lovely little thing. I was waiting for someone else to response first, but sine no one is....I love the little fox! It's so cute! Also, maybe Skye, Cheria, and Teito can hang out when Skye and Cheria get to Hoenn for those star shards. ^_^ Doesn't...help you right away, but....
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:10 am
I have side with Loon. It doesn't make sense how its unfair for her to receive an egg. It provides no such advantage and for her to be able to say she captured the fakemon then she has to hatch the egg. That being said, I don't see why its an issue? I do 34 of all my questions comments or concerns via PM because I feel it's easier to resolve that way. Granted I ask alot of questions, but I only ever post the ones that I feel should be seen by all the mods just in case the one I asked isn't to sure.
I mean yeah I see where you are coming from. "It's not fair she claimed it as an egg and the rest of us couldn't" but let me ask you this, did you ask or think about it? I really don't think it's that unfair because its not something that's just given to you, you really do have to post and work for it. Also 50 posts is alot, and while some of us can do it in a few days it takes most of us almost two weeks to do. And even then that's assuming your making four posts a day
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:30 am
Koukaze but let me ask you this, did you ask or think about it? Yes. I did actually. But, I assumed I couldn't have an egg because it wasn't specified that it was an option. Yes, I asked if it was alright if I could have the Flurry I claimed be an egg, but it would be hatched by the time Maiku got to Snowbelle to see what his parents wanted to show him. Had I known I could give it to him directly, I would have. Loonamist and the other mods cheated a lot of people out of this opportunity by not sharing her plan, or at least not making it an option. I'm with Sythril on this. I also want to say that we're not idiots or lacking in creativity just because we assumed we had to follow the claims specified. You know? Like any other prize claim ever? Sorry we were trying to be good citizens and follow the rules.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 9:38 am
iTheGoddessMartel Koukaze but let me ask you this, did you ask or think about it? Yes. I did actually. But, I assumed I couldn't have an egg because it wasn't specified that it was an option. Yes, I asked if it was alright if I could have the Flurry I claimed be an egg, but it would be hatched by the time Maiku got to Snowbelle to see what his parents wanted to show him. Had I known I could give it to him directly, I would have. Loonamist and the other mods cheated a lot of people out of this opportunity by not sharing her plan, or at least not making it an option. I'm with Sythril on this. I also want to say that we're not idiots or lacking in creativity just because we assumed we had to follow the claims specified. You know? Like any other prize claim ever? Sorry we were trying to be good citizens and follow the rules. Mm, thank you for your opinion. I'll keep in mind that if I think of a plot device for a pokemon months after the give away, and others might maybe be interested in doing the same, whether they've already introduced the pookemon or not, I will announce it to the guild. And like I already said, we'll include it in the next give away as an option, and try and keep it in mind for all give aways that include a level 5 pokemon. I will admit this feels like a particular thing just because I'm a mod, which had nothing to do with this, but I hear what you're saying, and we'll try and keep this in mind for similar situations, like the ability to give pokemon plot-related items before introducing them, like communicators, or anything else. Though I honestly don't know how we'll be able to tell the frivolous from the things people are interested in, especially if it comes up months later. But we'll do our best.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:21 am
iTheGoddessMartel Koukaze but let me ask you this, did you ask or think about it? Yes. I did actually. But, I assumed I couldn't have an egg because it wasn't specified that it was an option. Yes, I asked if it was alright if I could have the Flurry I claimed be an egg, but it would be hatched by the time Maiku got to Snowbelle to see what his parents wanted to show him. Had I known I could give it to him directly, I would have. Loonamist and the other mods cheated a lot of people out of this opportunity by not sharing her plan, or at least not making it an option. I'm with Sythril on this. I also want to say that we're not idiots or lacking in creativity just because we assumed we had to follow the claims specified. You know? Like any other prize claim ever? Sorry we were trying to be good citizens and follow the rules. Ok, where in the rules does it say you can't? And before you say "where in the rules does it say you can" let me tell you one simple easy thing. Loon is a mod, yes, and while I will be the first to admit she is one of my favorites(this is 100% completly irrelevant and besides the point) I've never ever known her to cheat. The rules didn't say yes or no, so she took matters into her own hands by asking. Just because no one else asked via pm or just because they didn't say that you could do it in the claim event doesn't mean she cheated. Cheating is defined as an act of unfainess in an attempt to gain an unfair advantage. That brings me back to my first point. She's not gaining an advantage, in fact she is making it more difficult for herself to claim the Pokemon. What I'm trying to say and what she is ever so politely trying to explain is she's sorry that there was the miscommunication and you thought you were unable to claim your Pokemon as an egg. Unfortunately she happens to be a mod and so it gives this perception that she took advantage of the system. I assure you that if it had been anyone else, say Shadow or Lia or even myself no one would have batted an eye. It's OK if you feel she cheated, but if you can't explain how it provides her with an unfair advantage then your definition of cheating is warped and misused
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:42 am
I don't see why it matters so much that she has an egg or not? She got the same prize, but made it harder on herself.... Wut.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 10:49 am
Sythril and Loonamist both have good points. It's sort of ridiculous, especially when there's no right or wrong in the situation. I side with Sythril, but I see both veiws. So, how about we all just shut up about it and get on with our lives? It's been resolved. God damn. Thanks for offering. I'll try to figure something out until then. sweatdrop
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:24 am
SD Paul Prospero Sythril and Loonamist both have good points. It's sort of ridiculous, especially when there's no right or wrong in the situation. I side with Sythril, but I see both veiws. So, how about we all just shut up about it and get on with our lives? It's been resolved. God damn. Thanks for offering. I'll try to figure something out until then. sweatdrop Paul I know you want it dropped but it really hasn't been resolved. At least I don't think it has. There is a form of unfairness that has been claimed as cheating. I honestly don't see how and personally would like to understand why its considered cheating?
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:31 am
I appreciate your vote of confidence, Kou <3 It made me extremely happy to read that. I think at this point, though, we can all agree that there was some misunderstanding, some matters of symantics, and I think we can move on. I understand that if there are options that someone asks about, that it's best it be at least noted somewhere in the guild, and hopefully it's also understood that there's only so much we can do on telling everyone what their options are. Hopefully in the future this won't be a concern, and we'll be sure to at least mention this particular matter in future events.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:40 am
Koukaze Paul I know you want it dropped but it really hasn't been resolved. At least I don't think it has. There is a form of unfairness that has been claimed as cheating. I honestly don't see how and personally would like to understand why its considered cheating? "Hey, guys! I know it's too late this time, but I just wanted to let you know you can possibly claim future Fakemon as eggs like I did not too long ago as long as the maker is okay with it! It won't be an official prize and won't be listed, but if you want to use it for plots or character developments, keep it in mind, okay?" Letting people in on the possibility even though it's too late this time around seems like the nice thing to do. Also, Loon already said it has been noted by the mods. So, yes. It has officially been resolved. Doesn't matter if there's still stuff to argue about. It's just pointless bickering now.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:42 am
is this about the monthly giveaways?
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 11:51 am
Makako-ma is this about the monthly giveaways? No. It's about Loon claiming her Giozard (did I spell that right?) as an egg. I personally don't care either way, so before I get sucked into it by my need to defend my friends (which is hard to do this time because both Sythril and Loona are considered friends), I'm going to dip out.
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:06 pm
SD Paul Prospero Koukaze Paul I know you want it dropped but it really hasn't been resolved. At least I don't think it has. There is a form of unfairness that has been claimed as cheating. I honestly don't see how and personally would like to understand why its considered cheating? "Hey, guys! I know it's too late this time, but I just wanted to let you know you can possibly claim future Fakemon as eggs like I did not too long ago as long as the maker is okay with it! It won't be an official prize and won't be listed, but if you want to use it for plots or character developments, keep it in mind, okay?" Letting people in on the possibility even though it's too late this time around seems like the nice thing to do. Also, Loon already said it has been noted by the mods. So, yes. It has officially been resolved. Doesn't matter if there's still stuff to argue about. It's just pointless bickering now. Just because something is noted doesn't mean it's rresolved. Here is how I see the logic as you have claimed it. It's unfair for the mods to say after the fact that you can do something. Yet the fact that they even said you could should be something for you to be happy about regardless of how late after the fact it is. I feel like your getting it twisted by using a tunnel vision version of being upset. At least she said "Hey you can do this" vs "Because Im a Mod and I said so" there is a saying back in Italy that basically says something is better than nothing. And even if its late, at least you know you can. I apologize for digging in on the subject I just really don't think it's right to tell her she's wrong for telling you that you can do something
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:07 pm
Jewel of Antares Makako-ma is this about the monthly giveaways? No. It's about Loon claiming her Giozard (did I spell that right?) as an egg. I personally don't care either way, so before I get sucked into it by my need to defend my friends (which is hard to do this time because both Sythril and Loona are considered friends), I'm going to dip out. how'd she claim a giozard?
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Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:17 pm
Makako-ma how'd she claim a giozard? She claimed it in the last Fakemon giveaway. I don't recall Sythril or anyone saying she was wrong for making her claim an egg. Just that it was wrong that she didn't at least inform others. Two people, as far as I know, still need to claim their Fakemon after all. She could have shared the opportunity, for them and future claims. These are Pokémon that aren't findable in the wild or given out all that often, and I don't think they can be bred either. If there's a way to make Fakemon claims more useful and even beneficial towards character plot and development, I think it's only right people put their ideas out there for others to at least think about.
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