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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:26 pm
divineseraph personally, i find killing unborn children more assholish than not wanting a kid sweatdrop Well, I think that the point is they don't want to look "anti-Woman" by being Pro-Life, thus, driving away all Pro-Choice women. I'll be honest, I avoid mentioning the fact that I'm Pro-Life to people until I know them really well. Unless I don't care to know them, in which case it doesn't matter if I drive them away. But there's a girl I'm interested in right now who's Pro-Choice, and I'm not going to tell her I'm Pro-Life until she gets to know me outside of my political opinions. I'm not going to be Pro-Choice because I totally agree that it's pretty a*****e-ish to be willing to let people die just so I can get laid, but I'm not going to go around declaring my Pro-Life-ness to the world. xd
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:21 am
Mm. I'm glad that the woman I love, and intend to someday marry, is Pro-Life. heart
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:35 am
Revisited my stance again.
I couldn't do it now. I don't think I'll ever be able to date a pro-choice man again. It's not like I think all pro-choice men would do something harmful, but I realized it's not just my life that's affected if he has a problem with me being pregnant. What's to stop him from shoving pills down my throat? What's to stop him from punching me or pushing me down the stairs? What's to stop him from doing something if he really doesn't want kids, especially if I can't prove he did anything wrong?
I was pretty naive to think I had control because I was female. If someone did something to harm my child, I'm not sure I'd forgive them, and I'd have a hard time forgiving myself for trusting them. Rather than risking that I think I'll just stick to pro-life men.
Who are sexier anyway. Again. I like a man who can stand up for his rights, the rights of his children, and the rights of millions of other humans that our society treats like garbage, especially in the face of discrimination, hatred, and bigotry. It's just hot.
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:53 pm
Edit-Silly me, I though my post disapeared but I posted it in another thread. sweatdrop
Well it's good marry some that understands you and you don't have worry about what side they would be on and how it would effect the relationship.
Yes a man that stands up for rights and what he believes in is sexy. heart And i'm not sure I could forgive someone if they tried to kill my unborn baby (I believe it's good to talk about all that before hand).
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Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 3:16 pm
Odd subject, but I could, most of my friends are pro-choice... as long as their opinion isn't something that is absolutely retarded like "it's not living" or "It's not a human"
I could only date one that is pro-choice as in only supports in bad situations... even though I only believe it as acceptable until the mother's life is in jeopardy!
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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:52 pm
I'm at a point in my life now that if I started dating someone else they just couldn't be pro-choice.
However, I'm in a very happy relationship. When Eric and I got together he was originally loosely pro-choice. After we had a long discussion and I taught him about some stuff his view dramatically changed... which is very lucky for me.
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:04 pm
I can't say what I'd do if I had a pro-choice girlfriend.... it'd really bother, over time I might be able to accept it.... but it would be a kink in our relationship.... not a kinky kink, but a bad kink..... I might dump her, I might not, but I'd find out before I marry her.
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:40 pm
It just dawned on me (And I'm sure it was probably brought up before) but, it depends on what we're calling a male choicer.
I mean, if it's someone truly FOR choice, and real, actual choice, then there's no difference. Wether you aborted, gave it up for adoption or kept it as your own, he would respect your choice and continue loving you just the same.
If you were dating someone who tried to pressure you into abortion, you can't say you're dating someone who's pro-CHOICE, now can you?
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:10 pm
divineseraph It just dawned on me (And I'm sure it was probably brought up before) but, it depends on what we're calling a male choicer. I mean, if it's someone truly FOR choice, and real, actual choice, then there's no difference. Wether you aborted, gave it up for adoption or kept it as your own, he would respect your choice and continue loving you just the same. If you were dating someone who tried to pressure you into abortion, you can't say you're dating someone who's pro-CHOICE, now can you? No, he would really pro-abortion or true anti-choice. Which is why I think it's good to talk to them before hand to see where they stand on the issue (some people see no issue at all and don't understand why not everyone supports elective abortions).
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 7:17 pm
That waaaas my stance.
But now I'm having second thoughts when people brought up the fact that this still means he is okay with the woman's decision to abort a child. I can't be happy with someone who would be comfortable with that decision if I made it (hypothetically speaking of course).
At best I think I could only go as far as a "pro-life personal, pro-choice political" kid of man. I need to be with someone who gives a damn...at least for what I'M carrying let alone what someone else is carrying. If I asked them "if I became pregnant by you, would you mind if I had an abortion?" there is a difference between being told "It's your choice." and "It's your choice but I'd be devastated."
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Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:00 pm
divineseraph It just dawned on me (And I'm sure it was probably brought up before) but, it depends on what we're calling a male choicer. I mean, if it's someone truly FOR choice, and real, actual choice, then there's no difference. Wether you aborted, gave it up for adoption or kept it as your own, he would respect your choice and continue loving you just the same. If you were dating someone who tried to pressure you into abortion, you can't say you're dating someone who's pro-CHOICE, now can you? Well the problem is, even if he says he's really for your choice, how can you tell? Besides which, just because he respects your choice doesn't mean he'll raise the kid with you. He could be saying that he'll respect your choice no matter what, but then when you actually do get pregnant when neither of you are ready to take care of the kid, just abandon you. Just because he respects your right to choose doesn't mean he's willing to abide by your choices; He's got a right to choose too.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:11 am
you hate the thing she did, not the person.
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:39 am
Of course not the person; But you don't have to hate a person to not date her. And if she gets pregnant while you're with her and decides to have an abortion... Is that a risk you can take?
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Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:49 am
I can't remember if I've already posted here, but I'm going to anyway. The way I see it, I can't see myself with a man unless he's completely pro-life and sees the value of every living human, regardless of stage of development. Some of you have said that you could date a pro-life personal/pro-choice political man--I, honestly, can't. I would not be able to date anyone who supports the destruction of human fetal life. That's simply who I don't want to spend the rest of my life with.
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Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:28 am
Yes, I could date a pro-choicer.One of my best friends is pro-choice. A long time ago we decided this-we're both dudes. we don't get pregnant, we give the pregnancy(no offense to any women that may read this). we don't have to carry the baby. we only have to keep the mom good. So we are both neutral in this situation-let the women argue. "Now, wanna go own some n00bz on Halo 3?" "HELLZ YES" Yah...so i believe in pro-life, but it's not my decision And if my wife had an abortion-well, to put it simply there are one of two things. IF SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE COULDN"T DO...then ok, explain why, and we will reach a desicion where I hopefully win IF SHE JUST DID IT, AND THEN TOLD ME SOME LAME a** EXCUSE... Well, I would be pretty damn pissed off. Probably have to live in a hotel for a week to sort things out...
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