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Clark~Kent

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:56 am


Dirk Morgna
If anyone here watches Smallville...

Just saw the pics of Zatanna for the show in two weeks.

burning_eyes


WHERE? Link plz.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 11:50 am


Mitchell Hundred
And I liked Death Proof, especially when viewed with the whole "Grindhouse Experience"; complete with fake trailers and double feature action. Both Planet Terror and Death Proof did not masquerade or try and hid their obvious (and thus namesake) influences and were never intended to be much more then their surface value worth.

Eh. To be fair, I didn't manage to catch it until it reached DVD and the lackluster box office performance forced them to release the two movies separately. But Planet Terror was fun. Death Proof was a self-indulgent disappointment.

As for Smallville... Gotten any better since Season 7? I think that's when I reached my limit.

Nick Joseph Fury


Zachary T Paleozogt

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:00 pm


I got to see the Grind House while it was in Theater, I really liked the idea, it just a shame that it didn't do to well in the box offise. I think part of the problem was due to the fact it came out during Easter weekend.

I would have liked to see more film for the Grind House, like other 80's cliche.
*sigh* if only.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 3:40 pm


Clark~Kent
Dirk Morgna
If anyone here watches Smallville...

Just saw the pics of Zatanna for the show in two weeks.

burning_eyes


WHERE? Link plz.


You can has....linky!

And more linky!

Chris Powell

Hilarious Lunatic


Mitchell Hundred

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:50 pm


Zachary T Paleozogt
I got to see the Grind House while it was in Theater, I really liked the idea, it just a shame that it didn't do to well in the box offise. I think part of the problem was due to the fact it came out during Easter weekend.

I would have liked to see more film for the Grind House, like other 80's cliche.
*sigh* if only.


Do we mean 60s- 70s exploitation cliche or are we talking about something else now ... ?
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 8:40 pm


Grindhouse was brilliant in-theater. Mindless awesome referential fun.
The only reason I haven't bought it is the fact it's on two DVDs. (I'd wondered why that happened. gonk )

l-lellboy


l-lellboy

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:34 pm


HOLYCRAPHOLYCRAPHOLYCRAP

This....

..so beautiful...

I just- it's like-

heart crying heart
scream heart
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:42 pm


The Goon! Fincher! Looks awesome.

Nick Joseph Fury


Technologist Tony Stark

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 3:32 am


Maniacal Norman Osborn

Yeah, I'm of the complete opposite mindset on Tarintino. Resevoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction are masterpieces. Jackie Brown wasn't quite at that level, but it worked. Kill Bill Vol. I was great, but I wasn't digging Vol. 2. I'd have to say the first Tarintino movie I actively disliked was Death Proof, though. All "homage," no substance. Tarintino works because he has well-thought out stories interwoven with his unique and interesting dialog. When you take out the first part, you get a movie that's barely worth watching. As for Roth... Eh. Hostel wasn't so much a commentary on the darkest aspects of the human condition as it was exploitative bullshit. Saw without the cleverness. Though I can see where you're coming from. Truth be told, Roth didn't look bad in the trailer.


You have to understand that Tarantino wrote Death Proof to give me the cap I need to some day write a paper on the evolving gender dynamic on his films from Resevoir Dogs through to Death Proof. That, and to stage a goddamn brilliant car chase.

I absolutely love the book Choke. Palahniuk's books are just oozing with cynical truisms. Choke's especially good for that, and the film barely scratched the surface.

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I remember liking Blade II. Then again, that was some time ago, and I was probably just comparing it favorably to it's abysmal sequel. But him doing Twilight? I really don't see it. I mean, talk about exploitative bullshit. Sure, he could twist it around into a story worth telling, but it's fanbase would have an absolute fit. It's not like Wolverine: Origins where they can ******** up Deadpool and the comic fanboys will be pissed to all hell, but the movie-going public will be none the wiser. Twilight has such a massive fanbase that the backlash would be too much. Besides, why twist a shitty story around to make a good one when you can just start from scratch?


I know a lot of women who have read Twilight, and heard a lot of commentary on it and overall the fanbase is not pleased with the first film. The only positive I've ever heard is that the guy who played Edward Cullen is cute, so there is at present a great deal of latitude available. Besides as far as teenagers go, you can put whatever the ******** you want on the screens and with enough hype they'll watch it. You only need their ten dollars on the way in, not the way out.

I would totally jump at the chance to go into that pit and fight for the director's chair and script for Twilight 2, for the cause of you know rehabilitating this noxious exploitative s**t into something that isn't programming girls with things that are better elucidated elsewhere on a different day as well as for Jacob- the native north american werewolf- who comes into prominence in the sequel while Edward is off in Europe. I can't even remember when I saw a portrayal of contemporary native north americans in an American film.

I love that Jacob is native, that was something that gave me a bit of hope in the first film, that we might get something interesting there but of course that potential was wasted utterly and looks to get wasted even further as the films progress more or less how the novels did.

There's the skeleton of a great saga in Twilight, and sure it's always preferable to build up something new to be trying to sit there and sift through the ashes of a mess, but I'd rather subvert a pop culture juggernaut then try to compete with it. I mean s**t, we're comic book fans living in an era whose foundation was built on rescued characters.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:26 am


Daaaaamn, Resident Evil 5. You be shiny.

Natalia Romanova


Bigby Wolf

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 8:27 am


I saw Grindhouse in the Theater as well. It was long and I don't like horror movies, but I greatly enjoyed the experience, especially with the missing reels and trailers.

They should have swapped the order of the films; Planet Terror was easily the superior film in terms of, well, everything. It accurately homaged the sort of film you'd see on MST3K complete with massive logic jumps, Mary-Sue hero, sexy heroine and a fear-based 'virus' plot as based on the Agent Orange scare as on the Iraq war it was plotted around.

Death Proof was a Tarantino pastiche; a case of him throwing in all of the tropes and things that he found the most pleasing about the era and his own films. There were closeups of feet, an extended sequence of stunts that didn't actually advance any plot, "girl power" themes that involved women getting revenge and of course, cool cars. It reminded me of films from the 70's I've seen as well, especially "Angel's Revenge," a horrible Charlie's Angels ripoff film starring seven women who couldn't act and the guy who played Mister Howell on Gilligan's Island as a drug lord.

Death Proof plodded along in the early goings. I think Tarantino misstepped in picking which scene to 'lose' and not show in the theatrical release because it actually contained the most important plot points of the movie, rendering the film to be not much more then "A bunch of people talk in a bar, a car murder, some more people stand around and talk, a car chase, the end."

The car chase at the end WAS awesome and almost redeemed the film, but in the end goal of homaging Grindhouse movies and not just plain bad 70's films made by people who got an art grant and knew a guy who owned a camera (see: Manos, the Hands of Fate), Death Proof was superior.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 10:55 am


Hah, I didn't think to make that comparison in foot close ups (I'm assuming you mean Kill Bill Volume One). I just looked at it as being foreshadowing for her losing her legs in the accident.

Hey Hellboy...

Technologist Tony Stark


l-lellboy

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:15 pm


Sweeeeeeeeeeet. Another movie I need to see.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 4:57 pm


Tarantino is very public about his foot fetish.

Querl Dox
Vice Captain


Zachary T Paleozogt

PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:28 pm


Mitchell Hundred
Zachary T Paleozogt
I got to see the Grind House while it was in Theater, I really liked the idea, it just a shame that it didn't do to well in the box offise. I think part of the problem was due to the fact it came out during Easter weekend.

I would have liked to see more film for the Grind House, like other 80's cliche.
*sigh* if only.


Do we mean 60s- 70s exploitation cliche or are we talking about something else now ... ?

I say more 60-70s cliche, like Space Barbarians, Killer Robots, or some Conan or Beast Master Style films. Something fun.
Like this film, this would have been perfect for the Grind House. Hell, I'm ashamed they didn't have it in theaters, because it seem like a film Tarantino would have suported. He did that for Hero, and that god awful Hostile 2. and those got to be shown in Theaters.


On another note, Goon movie, Sweet Jesuse YES!

I really hope they make a film of Grendel(Hunter Rose) or Usagi Yojimbo soon. Although with Usagi, they need to make it hand drawn animated, i just don't think it will look right with CG, unless it just look really really good.
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