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kerminatrix

O.G. Nerd

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:47 pm


woo! congratulations, kilana!

ring-related, we watched Blood Diamond last night and now the boyfriend's kicking himself for getting me a diamond. i told him we can "upgrade" when we're better off, the way some people do for a bigger stone than they could afford at the time of the engagement, to a Canadian or Australian conflict-free one. i don't want a bigger one, but it would be nice to have one that i KNOW didn't finance wars and atrocities. those shits are expensive, though... because they're not mined with slave labour, which, y'know, tends to bring the cost down.

and happy birthday, Wilhelmina! the only flaw with being 25 is that you're no longer in the prized 18-24 demographic. then again, that demographic includes a lot of total dipshits, so maybe it's not so bad?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:20 pm


procrastination girl
woo! congratulations, kilana!

ring-related, we watched Blood Diamond last night and now the boyfriend's kicking himself for getting me a diamond. i told him we can "upgrade" when we're better off, the way some people do for a bigger stone than they could afford at the time of the engagement, to a Canadian or Australian conflict-free one. i don't want a bigger one, but it would be nice to have one that i KNOW didn't finance wars and atrocities. those shits are expensive, though... because they're not mined with slave labour, which, y'know, tends to bring the cost down.

and happy birthday, Wilhelmina! the only flaw with being 25 is that you're no longer in the prized 18-24 demographic. then again, that demographic includes a lot of total dipshits, so maybe it's not so bad?

Well most diamonds now are conflict free. So if it's recent, and you got it from Debeers (which you most likely did) it's a conflict free diamond. You could most likely get it checked out as well as it should have a serial number on it and paper work somewhere that goes with it.

Jahoclave



Kozray

Crew

Bloblike Blob

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:54 pm


Jahoclave
Kilana
Thank you everyone! x3

And as for the thing in my siggy, Jaho, it's not Beck. You found the video and all, but, yeah, it's just some guys who make random songs. Brad Neely did the graphics, I love his other stuff (look him up on SuperDeluxe), but I don't think he did the song.

I'll be sure to post pics of the ring when I get it. I'm so excited. 4laugh

Things are still going well. The only person to really react badly was one of my good friends, who likes to deal with harsh realism anyway so I was expecting it of her. My mom was excited, my dad was kinda neutral but happy for me ... most of my friends just said "congrats!" and left it at that, so who knows what they REALLY think. Ah well. Good stuff. :3

Feels weird saying I have a fiance. He called me his fiancee last night and I was like "lol I guess that's what I am now!" XD

For our records, we will still discuss him as that silly boy. Mainly because I can never spell fiancée right.


Well, fiancée is me. He'd be my fiancé. Even though they're pronounced the same. I just know the difference, yay I get an extra E. ;D But I'm always too lazy to look up the é ASCII Code hit the extra buttons since I remember the code from old Pokémon days. Ahhh god. xd Anyway, yes, silly boy is also fine. <_<

And lol, I don't think my roommate really approves but I know she didn't want to tell me. But I have another good friend of ours who has been dating a girl real serious-like for the same amount of time me and my boyfriend fiancé have been together ... my roommate works at the same place as said friend's sister, and told me the sister thinks/heard that he's gonna propose. She said she wasn't sure how that'd go and sounded all like, disapproving. Well, I think they're almost a better couple than me and my fiancé, and she disapproves of them? Bleh, whatever, I know what other people think shouldn't matter, but it still kinda bugs me. ;_;
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:06 pm


the Kimberly Process has helped, but it's not perfect - lack of impartial oversight, ease of joining, and, of course, the inevitable realities of smuggling and officials willing to certify documents for a bribe conspire to get more conflict stones through than DeBeers wants you to think. they got a little pissed off about that movie, by the way, wanting to make sure a disclaimer was slapped on it saying it was fiction (despite no international diamond companies being named and despite the suits in the International Diamond Commission or whatever they were calling it coming off looking quite good, on the whole), so they aren't as ethical as all that. besides, they believe that the diamond dust in THEIR mines is safe, despite every other country's mining industry being subject to laws to keep said dust down for the safety of the miners. but it's true, the numbers of conflict diamonds in circulation HAVE dropped considerably since the turn of this century. so the odds of me wearing one are lower than they would have been, say, 10 years ago.

however, i am not nuts about DeBeers at the best of times - selling the idea that diamonds = love, and the bigger the diamond, the bigger the love... 2 months salary and all that... artificially creating a shortage by sticking most of the diamonds in a vault to keep prices high... i'm STILL not crazy about giving my money to them even if the money doesn't fund human rights abuses.

and my fella bought this online, so who knows what kind of certification it has. no doubt it came through DeBeers, they've got a near-monopoly on the trade, but it isn't the sort of thing the jeweler's store on the corner can be vouching for, you know?

anyway. i'm not going to keep wearing it for other reasons once we're actually married - why wear an engagement ring when you're no longer engaged? i'd rather wear a plain band than something with any stone in it, just for matters of personal taste. so it's only 6 more months of moral handwringing.

kerminatrix

O.G. Nerd


Urbane
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 4:54 pm


Question for the masses: do you/did you want a white diamond for your engagement ring?
I'm wondering if I'm the only one who doesn't.
XP
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 5:22 pm


Yay for Kilana, and thankees for birthday wish.

My boyfriend thinks he should get me a garnet for a ring since that's my birthstone, and hey hecka cheaper. Except the silly ol' Avatar Talk lurkish in me thinks I'd have to buy an all red wardrobe for the rest of my days. xd

Edit: Well, I guess the wedding band could be stoneless. I'll just be in all red while engaged. whee

Wilhemina


Waltz for Luma
Crew

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:12 pm


Yes, I'd like a diamond.
Doesn't really have to do with the traditional romantic notion of marriage - I just like diamonds, for my own reasons.

I saw that movie "Blood Diamond" too and it got me worried, but I'm sure there are ways to make sure your rock is conflict-free.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:22 pm


procrastination girl
the Kimberly Process has helped, but it's not perfect - lack of impartial oversight, ease of joining, and, of course, the inevitable realities of smuggling and officials willing to certify documents for a bribe conspire to get more conflict stones through than DeBeers wants you to think. they got a little pissed off about that movie, by the way, wanting to make sure a disclaimer was slapped on it saying it was fiction (despite no international diamond companies being named and despite the suits in the International Diamond Commission or whatever they were calling it coming off looking quite good, on the whole), so they aren't as ethical as all that. besides, they believe that the diamond dust in THEIR mines is safe, despite every other country's mining industry being subject to laws to keep said dust down for the safety of the miners. but it's true, the numbers of conflict diamonds in circulation HAVE dropped considerably since the turn of this century. so the odds of me wearing one are lower than they would have been, say, 10 years ago.

however, i am not nuts about DeBeers at the best of times - selling the idea that diamonds = love, and the bigger the diamond, the bigger the love... 2 months salary and all that... artificially creating a shortage by sticking most of the diamonds in a vault to keep prices high... i'm STILL not crazy about giving my money to them even if the money doesn't fund human rights abuses.

and my fella bought this online, so who knows what kind of certification it has. no doubt it came through DeBeers, they've got a near-monopoly on the trade, but it isn't the sort of thing the jeweler's store on the corner can be vouching for, you know?

anyway. i'm not going to keep wearing it for other reasons once we're actually married - why wear an engagement ring when you're no longer engaged? i'd rather wear a plain band than something with any stone in it, just for matters of personal taste. so it's only 6 more months of moral handwringing.

I'm not satistifed with Debeers either, at least not until they merge with Wal-Mart.

Jahoclave


Wolffy000

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:24 pm


The only girl I ever asked hated diamonds. I don't really blame her, I only really like them as a functional thing. I don't get the whole diamond thing myself.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:58 pm


I personally think I'm just getting a diamond for tradition's sake. I'm not closed to the idea of it being a different stone, though -- we saw a very pretty pink sapphire ring online and might use that as an alternative if we can't find a suitable diamond engagement band anywhere around here. I think diamonds are pretty, but in no way am I expecting the hugest diamond ever -- I find that to be kinda tacky and gaudy, even if we had the money to spend on a big rock. For one I'd be afraid of getting mugged or losing it, and for two, yeah, I see it as tacky at least to me.

Yeah, so if I don't see a diamond ring that I don't just truly fall in love with when we go shopping, I think I'll look at some of my other favorites. Hell, I'd even take an amethyst since purple IS my favorite color and I do love amethysts, even though then it's not a "traditional" ring by any means and lacks the monetary value that some of the more precious stones have, but then again I'm not even doing it for its value. If it's pretty and calls to me, then I'll go with it. However, I also like sapphires and emeralds, so I'd probably peek at those as well.

I can't wait, still have a week to go. ;_;


Kozray

Crew

Bloblike Blob


Jahoclave

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:22 pm


I'd rather get her an engagement puppy.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:56 pm


Diamonds are neutral-colored, which works for me. I constantly go through phases and know I wouldn't be able to commit to a single color like blue or green. They also represent what I want love to be - strong and virtually unbreakable.

Plus, I love gold and think diamonds look best with it... never understood why most of my friends prefer silver-colored jewelery...

In general, I like things to be somewhat minimal so the few details it does have will stand out more. So big gems are also a big no.



...I think "somewhat minimal" has been my goal for the last few years. I feel like I can't get rid of all my baggage, physically/materialistically and mentally.

Waltz for Luma
Crew


Wolffy000

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:16 pm


I prefer silver things myself. Gold is a pretty specific color and sticks out quite a bit usually, silver ends up more general and is just a quiet accent.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:21 pm


I don't want anything fancy for an engagement ring. I'd rather he get something cheap than go all out. Not that my boyfriend is anywhere near proposing, or anything...but still.

I miss him already. ;~; And that was such a shitty way to leave each other for the next couple weeks. Hopefully things will be better when I call him. D:

Prince Reddy

Romantic Reveler



Kozray

Crew

Bloblike Blob

PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 10:41 pm


I actually prefer silver, too, and I'll probably be getting a white gold band unless there's a gorgeous gold band that I see. I'm really open to ideas, but I don't want anything over the top or whatever. My main preference is something somewhat small, either one stone or a three stone setting, and white gold. But yeah, if I see some amazing ring that's not anything like that and I decide it's the one, then I'll go with it. :3
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