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Kara grinned, "Has he tried? I know they're trophies, but I could only imagine him trying. It would be interesting to say the least... at least I could see my younger ones doing something like that..."

Though at this rate, she figured, she wouldn't have many young ones left besides Jin.

Aliya giggled softly. "No, he hasn't tried," she grinned, "but if he didn't spend so much time with Aragost, I think he would. He used to play with carved toys and the like, but now he just wants to learn - though, again, I'm not going to complain. Though I suspect ... that if Adwin and Alyse were ever to get their hands on them, they wouldn't hesitate."

"And I'm quite certain that Adanedhel wouldn't hesitate to test what he's been learning on them if they ever tried," Ulrich retorted. "He's too defensive of them. It's not like most of them are fragile, after all."


Ulani nodded, then shrugged. "Well, the sooner the better, because Halmir won't let Arthael keep doing guard duty for much longer, and of course after the baby's born ..." She trailed off and shrugged again, but there was a mischievous glint in her eyes.

Donovan looked at Ulani for several silent moments as his mind did a backtrack over what Ulani had just said. It didn't take much to put two and two together, however he hadn't been that long ago for him that he could recall the two arguing... debating.. having a loud debate.. whatever. He could even recall Elros not even being sure of putting the two on guard duty together at times, even though he would admit Arthael could keep Halmir on track.

Nevermind the fact that Halmir had once been the person that Ulrich sic'd on him because of his need to draw pretty girls (something he found out way after the fact).

"Did you just say something to the effect that Arthael is pregnant and she and Halmir are married?"


Sail too she wondered, or was it something else? Lin wasn't aware fully of that other place where some elves would go, "Only that he said one day he would visit the Borderlands again. I think it bothered him when I told him how close one of the slavers came to the Ranch."

Kara tried to think back on how she taught her own children, it was generally not hard to teach them, they tended to have their eyes set on the future and were easily impressed by the adults in their life. Though even she had tried a few things before letting the course of nature take over.

"Hmm... I can't help you there," Kara murmured, "The only time I've done a reward system similar to that was with cookies... alphabet cookies if I recall correctly. I never could do kanji cookies, they were too complicated."

"Well, I'm sure we'll figure something out," Aliya smiled. "After all, I was raised without anything like that, and I turned out just fine."

"Your reward for learning something was to get something else to learn," Ulrich agreed, folding his arms across his chest. "Maybe you'd be better off doing that with the children instead of giving them material goods."



Ulani laughed at Donovan, she couldn't help it anymore. "Probably sparring, they still spar a lot and probably will until Halmir won't let Arthael anymore. At any rate, I was thinking two more fighters, since of course Arthael won't be doing much, and Halmir, knowing him, would want to spend some extra time with her - and the baby, after it's born."



Elros smiled at Lin. "I was afraid he might," he replied softly. "After all, we have been in this land for a very long time, and he especially would want to see the Valar again. They were ... the closest thing he had to parents, really. But it doesn't sound as if he's going to, so it's all right."

His smile grew slightly warmer. "Now, shall we continue your lessons?" he asked her. "It's been quite a while since you've been here, after all."

Kara mused, "Well each child is different, you'll probably see as you go along."

At least that what she thought, since each child had different interests in different things.

Donovan nodded and waited until Celeborn was sitted with the rest of them before turning ot Ulani.

"Well that would be all of us," he told her, "Shall we begin?"

Donovan couldn't disagree, after all they could grab two, and with three people instead of the usual two would make it a bit easier. He nodded at Celeborn's comment.

"It should be fine," he admitted, "We might as well, how professional do you know Celeborn are these people?"