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 Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 6:52 pm
MegaTherion777 PandasRGr1mm Well, I'm a Deist who share mainly Christian, Buddhist and LaVeyan views. My morals also depend on situations so not all of them are concrete. as in anton lavey? anton szander lavey? the childish, immature, hedonistic, self-indulgent, founder of the useless, waste-of-time bullshit that is the church of satan? the only redeeming quality of his philosophy is that he's not a nihilist. at least he has an ethos, however self-centered it is. Yeah, that bald bearded dude. He talked about a few things I agreed with like not killing an animal if you don't plan to use its flesh in some productive way.
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:11 pm
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Posted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 8:38 pm
PandasRGr1mm MegaTherion777 PandasRGr1mm Well, I'm a Deist who share mainly Christian, Buddhist and LaVeyan views. My morals also depend on situations so not all of them are concrete. as in anton lavey? anton szander lavey? the childish, immature, hedonistic, self-indulgent, founder of the useless, waste-of-time bullshit that is the church of satan? the only redeeming quality of his philosophy is that he's not a nihilist. at least he has an ethos, however self-centered it is. Yeah, that bald bearded dude. He talked about a few things I agreed with like not killing an animal if you don't plan to use its flesh in some productive way. ah well that i can agree with. im just a little...whats the word? disenchanted with lavey, as i am with mall goths... i was kinda into satanism...and being a mall goth...in middle school. then i grew up, and realized that i'd pretty much wasted three years of my life.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:33 pm
MegaTherion777 PandasRGr1mm MegaTherion777 PandasRGr1mm Well, I'm a Deist who share mainly Christian, Buddhist and LaVeyan views. My morals also depend on situations so not all of them are concrete. as in anton lavey? anton szander lavey? the childish, immature, hedonistic, self-indulgent, founder of the useless, waste-of-time bullshit that is the church of satan? the only redeeming quality of his philosophy is that he's not a nihilist. at least he has an ethos, however self-centered it is. Yeah, that bald bearded dude. He talked about a few things I agreed with like not killing an animal if you don't plan to use its flesh in some productive way. ah well that i can agree with. im just a little...whats the word? disenchanted with lavey, as i am with mall goths... i was kinda into satanism...and being a mall goth...in middle school. then i grew up, and realized that i'd pretty much wasted three years of my life. I've seen that happen a lot. Glad it hasn't happened to me. I just read on philosophies so I can get a clearer meaning of life. I mean, Aristotle's views on Metaphysics are also pretty interesting to me. I kinda have my own religion.
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:56 pm
yeah i really have my own religion too. i take influence from taoism, existentialism, jesus himself (though i dont believe he's a deity, i believe he had good advice), nietzsche, buddha, socrates, aleister crowley, thomas paine, john locke...
i could go on, but i wont bore you
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Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2008 5:47 pm
MegaTherion777 yeah i really have my own religion too. i take influence from taoism, existentialism, jesus himself (though i dont believe he's a deity, i believe he had good advice), nietzsche, buddha, socrates, aleister crowley, thomas paine, john locke... i could go on, but i wont bore you I would have to say that I too shar Nietzche believes along with Lockean ones.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 3:08 pm
Eh, I've probably said something before in this thread, but... I've been doing some thinking. And I've always believed that there is some sort of entity out there, but this whole attaching a religion to it just seems to me a bit odd. Do I really need to go to a congregation or place of worship be reminded of a moral code, when I believe my morality is sound? Do I really need to attach some sort of reward system to having a sound moral code and adhering to it? I know a lot of times, church-going and such is to show devotion, but I really don't think I need a "religion" attached.
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Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:45 pm
My Hollow Yeah, that's right, let's talk about what we believe in. I think we are all close enough that we can openly discuss this. As most of you know i am proudly a Christian. -GASP- AND I listen to Metal, HONOEZ a walking contradiction!!!!! rolleyes But yeah, i believe in Jesus and the works. I also respect others beliefs and i will not shove my personal belief system down anyones throat. What i do NOT respect is when people trash someone else's belief system. I think that there should be 100% respect all the way around. It's okay to disagree, but when you stand up and down right make fun of or target someone's belief system, that's when i draw the line. That is also why I don't usually like black Metal because some of the stuff that i have come across is definately not Christian friendly. Like i said before, i can respect you for not having my beliefs but i have no respect for you when you trash other's beliefs. Wow, that sounds almost like an exact quote of the way I describe my own beliefs...
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 1:45 am
The War Starter Eh, I've probably said something before in this thread, but... I've been doing some thinking. And I've always believed that there is some sort of entity out there, but this whole attaching a religion to it just seems to me a bit odd. Do I really need to go to a congregation or place of worship be reminded of a moral code, when I believe my morality is sound? Do I really need to attach some sort of reward system to having a sound moral code and adhering to it? I know a lot of times, church-going and such is to show devotion, but I really don't think I need a "religion" attached. You make a good point. I don't really know what to believe. I don't really believe in anything, but I would like to think that there is an afterlife of some sort. The Celts, for example, used to say that you would go to a place much like Earth, except there is no pain and suffering... but tbh I dont know whether I can believe in an afterlife confused I suppose at the end of the day, my religion is Iron Maiden
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 2:42 am
Celtic guardian91 The War Starter Eh, I've probably said something before in this thread, but... I've been doing some thinking. And I've always believed that there is some sort of entity out there, but this whole attaching a religion to it just seems to me a bit odd. Do I really need to go to a congregation or place of worship be reminded of a moral code, when I believe my morality is sound? Do I really need to attach some sort of reward system to having a sound moral code and adhering to it? I know a lot of times, church-going and such is to show devotion, but I really don't think I need a "religion" attached. You make a good point. I don't really know what to believe. I don't really believe in anything, but I would like to think that there is an afterlife of some sort. The Celts, for example, used to say that you would go to a place much like Earth, except there is no pain and suffering... but tbh I dont know whether I can believe in an afterlife confused I suppose at the end of the day, my religion is Iron Maiden Indeed. This is hard to believe in. It's an exciting concept for probably most, if not all, religions. But it's really hard to believe in. Or maybe I'm just too much into science and I'm too much into the theory (fact?) that we're just animals. Animals that were enough intelligent to dominate the world.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:46 am
I really don't like thinking about the possibility of an afterlife existing. What if there isn't one? It shakes my very foundation and scares the s**t out of me. All is just a black void, then, and the short span of life we had means very little in the grand scheme of things, the world will mov... okay, I'm just not going to think about it. sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 5:50 am
MegaTherion777 PandasRGr1mm Well, I'm a Deist who share mainly Christian, Buddhist and LaVeyan views. My morals also depend on situations so not all of them are concrete. as in anton lavey? anton szander lavey? the childish, immature, hedonistic, self-indulgent, founder of the useless, waste-of-time bullshit that is the church of satan? the only redeeming quality of his philosophy is that he's not a nihilist. at least he has an ethos, however self-centered it is.Le gasp! shame for judging the tweeney followers of a thought system they do not understand, instead of the system itself! shmeh. i kid. really though, philosophical nihilism is deeply intertwined in the theories of ontology, and in its applicable usage not necessarily without a foundation in the scheme of macrocosmic self awareness. I digress. I am honestly not surprised at the supposedly high concentrations of christian faithful, as most people keep there music and beliefs at least somewhat separate , and that Christianity is the absolutely most predominate religion in the world. period. it is wired into our DNA to need a purpose, and arguably to believe in a power higher than ourselves (take no offense christian friends, god could have wired you that way, you know, to give you a head start.) because of cultural saturation, many spiritual people most closely identify with Christianity, even if they do not adhere to a strict code of beliefs, or to a specific denomination. It is cool, however, how so many of you have a set of beliefs that are genuine that you neither feel the need to flaunt or hide, respectively.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:32 am
kacisko Celtic guardian91 The War Starter Eh, I've probably said something before in this thread, but... I've been doing some thinking. And I've always believed that there is some sort of entity out there, but this whole attaching a religion to it just seems to me a bit odd. Do I really need to go to a congregation or place of worship be reminded of a moral code, when I believe my morality is sound? Do I really need to attach some sort of reward system to having a sound moral code and adhering to it? I know a lot of times, church-going and such is to show devotion, but I really don't think I need a "religion" attached. You make a good point. I don't really know what to believe. I don't really believe in anything, but I would like to think that there is an afterlife of some sort. The Celts, for example, used to say that you would go to a place much like Earth, except there is no pain and suffering... but tbh I dont know whether I can believe in an afterlife confused I suppose at the end of the day, my religion is Iron Maiden Indeed. This is hard to believe in. It's an exciting concept for probably most, if not all, religions. But it's really hard to believe in. Or maybe I'm just too much into science and I'm too much into the theory (fact?) that we're just animals. Animals that were enough intelligent to dominate the world. Aye, that's the same with me. I believe in scientific theories because many have been proven, whereas you don't get much evidence from religion
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:40 am
I am a christian, as most of you know. I do believe there's an afterlife. Though, I am a human, with wrongs and flaws, I think God gave me intelligence, and this is used for me to doubt everything. My human condition is a great obstacle in order to believe without doubt, blindly. However, I am well convinced God exists, and that heaven and hell exist. I have seen stuff happen with not explaination, miracles if you will. I've experienced spiritual stuff in my life, and it is just unexplainable, it is something one has to discover on their own, something no one will ever understand until they experience it, and even then, some won't understand it completely (like myself).
I am not saying this thread is pointless or anything. But I think we will never understand what we're talking about until we die and see what's next. I rather live my life based on a fairytale that turns out to be true, and go to heaven, than live my life refusing God just to find out in the end it was true, and go to hell. Anyways, if it turns out to be false, I didn't lose anything.
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 8:43 am
Celtic guardian91 kacisko Celtic guardian91 The War Starter Eh, I've probably said something before in this thread, but... I've been doing some thinking. And I've always believed that there is some sort of entity out there, but this whole attaching a religion to it just seems to me a bit odd. Do I really need to go to a congregation or place of worship be reminded of a moral code, when I believe my morality is sound? Do I really need to attach some sort of reward system to having a sound moral code and adhering to it? I know a lot of times, church-going and such is to show devotion, but I really don't think I need a "religion" attached. You make a good point. I don't really know what to believe. I don't really believe in anything, but I would like to think that there is an afterlife of some sort. The Celts, for example, used to say that you would go to a place much like Earth, except there is no pain and suffering... but tbh I dont know whether I can believe in an afterlife confused I suppose at the end of the day, my religion is Iron Maiden Indeed. This is hard to believe in. It's an exciting concept for probably most, if not all, religions. But it's really hard to believe in. Or maybe I'm just too much into science and I'm too much into the theory (fact?) that we're just animals. Animals that were enough intelligent to dominate the world. Aye, that's the same with me. I believe in scientific theories because many have been proven, whereas you don't get much evidence from religion There's plenty, but you just won't see it in history books and stuff. Let me check if I can find some pics and articles. Side Note: NO Theory has been proved, that's why they're called 'theories'. 3nodding
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