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[Yusuke Urameshi]

PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 12:15 pm


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choasczorro
(I'm going to let it slide. We both greatly disagree on what is happening, but I know physical combat isn't going to affect either of us by a large degree.)

~

Cziri and Yusuke were still at a close distance; Cziri could come back and serve Yusuke another fist if he truly wished to. Taking advantage of his flexible body, he quickly fixed whatever knots there were and rotated to face Yusuke. Glancing into Yusuke's eye and checking everything twice, he began his assault.

Utilizing a few of the seals on his tunic forged with the ectoplasm, he would quickly force streams of negative energy out of his cloak in an expanding-cone area of effect. The vertexes were located on the center of each seal and the base expanded out from there and would continue until it met resistance (in this case, Yusuke.) This negative energy would probably damage his skin and his spirit energy / extended soul and force it out of that area of flesh for the time being. However, that isn't all that Cziri planned to do.

If Yusuke doesn't have any chi vessels, he isn't locked down to his body very well. How many times has his spirit escaped his loose body in the series? Essentially, he's almost built as some of the more advanced golems, which could be dealt with quite easily. Sure, having spirit energy directly radiate or extend out of the soul does take out some of the weaknesses of chakra vessels (far more strengths), however, it leaves one target, and that one target is very vulnerable to certain attacks.

During the blaze of the negative energy, Cziri had forged a rather simple appendage of prismatic energy, one that would pierce though Yusuke's body by heading to the soul directly, almost on another plane, by creating a blade of soul reaver, essentially energy that consumes the energy of chi or life, he would cut his way into the area of the soul, however, he did not plan on cutting the soul itself. Instead, utilizing the information planted into the soul and the materials administered to it, the prismatic hand would quickly trace a seal onto the soul, one that would force it to leave the body/plane (it was an exorcism seal.) The exorcism rune would be even more effective because Yusuke also contained demonic elements. ~ One of the seals on the cloak had also attempted to form a quick exorcism rune directly on Yusuke's skin, utilizing whatever spiritual and binding information was located within his flesh for a back-up seal or a proactive seal.

Cziri would simply glance into Yusuke's being to monitor changes and would tend to some of the wounds formed by the negative energy (some waifs touched his being, too.)

Note: The seals aren't set to a very large timeframe. They are not intended to kill Yusuke. However, because they don't have their the time of effect set to infinity, they have all the more potency for the short time they are active for. I'm not sure what the DQ time is, but the seals will be set for about ten minutes. The shock will probably knock Yusuke out and force his body to attempt to keep him alive.


[Yusuke Urameshi]
"That was weird," Yusuke would say as his right foot returns to the ground, noting how Cziri just suddenly twisted his right leg back into place, the leg that was trying to capture him in a lock. "Oh, great, I hope...."

Then Cziri began his run toward Yusuke, the teen already prepared for collision as he places his arms up, clenching his hands into fists.

Then his eyes take notice of something wrong. Being able to see many forms that were of ether, since he could easily see ghosts which were by far one of the purest forms of any energy, he could see the faint presences of many cone-shaped energy extending from Cziri's body, and they happened to be heading toward him. Not sure what this thing was, he would immediately roll to the left, and reface quickly, suddenly pushing off his feet, and starting a run to the left, meaning in relation to how Cziri was facing when he was running toward Yusuke, Yusuke would be going the opposite way, passing by Cziri's right with five feet at most between them.

Keeping a look back at Cziri, he would start to further away, though now his body would start to pulse with more spirit energy through his limbs to another level. Seeing as his opponent was about to use non physical means to try to take down Yusuke, the spirit detective was going to at least prepare for whatever that energy coming from Cziri's body would do. He wasn't going to run into another trap like in his previous fight, so this time, he was going to play smarter.


Then OOC started here:

choasczorro
Ectoplasm was already arranged on cloak; I wasn't sending ghosts at you. Look at my first post and it should say that there were ectoplasm seals awaiting activation. They would be like, a seal that would instantly explode/activate once a certain chi or command trigger is noticed. Summoning ghosts would be too slow to act as a true distraction

You would have to roll pretty far to the left to avoid all of the cones, you know. And pretty fast, too.

The hand isn't really a ghost, it is a manifestation of psionic/empathic energy.

Also, you missed the prismatic light hand. Success or lack of success with damage from the negative energy didn't matter. The negative energy was supposed to either force you to dodge or to soften you up, either of which would distract you from the exorcising hand, which they apparently did so.


choasczorro
[Yusuke Urameshi]
choasczorro
Ectoplasm was already arranged on cloak; I wasn't sending ghosts at you. Look at my first post and it should say that there were ectoplasm seals awaiting activation. They would be like, a seal that would instantly explode/activate once a certain chi or command trigger is noticed. Summoning ghosts would be too slow to act as a true distraction

You would have to roll pretty far to the left to avoid all of the cones, you know. And pretty fast, too.

The hand isn't really a ghost, it is a manifestation of psionic/empathic energy.

Also, you missed the prismatic light hand. Success or lack of success with damage from the negative energy didn't matter. The negative energy was supposed to either force you to dodge or to soften you up, either of which would distract you from the exorcising hand, which they apparently did so.

I used ghosts only as a reason for why Yusuke will be able to see the energy coming from your character's body, so you no one will think I'm playing my character out of the realms of his capabilities. And he moves when you are closing in from noticing this energy coming from his body.He's only playing ahead of the game after the way he fought last round, using better tactics to take on foes like your character who do unusual things.

But in the event of what you did, he moves away from your character, that's all, avoiding any oppositions yours is bringing out at that moment.

?
You did what Cziri wished for Yusuke to do, to attempt to dodge the negative energy so that the seal would work virtually unopposed.


choasczorro
[Yusuke Urameshi]
choasczorro

?
You did what Cziri wished for Yusuke to do, to attempt to dodge the negative energy so that the seal would work virtually unopposed.

He wasn't dodging a specific thing. He was just dodging Cziri in general. All he wanted to do was get out of the way and move off to prepare himself better. You're saying as if Yusuke would not have any time to dodge, when in fact, he could, especially with the manuevers he did.


I'm saying that instead of dodging the attack, a block should have been used. Dodging doesn't do so much for certain supernatural attacks (like ones that tend to indirectly phase through objects/partially exist on the "spirit/ghost plane". A block could've been anything from a surge of chi (would not have worked well in this case) or whatever your mind can think of.


choasczorro
[Yusuke Urameshi]
choasczorro
[Yusuke Urameshi]
choasczorro

?
You did what Cziri wished for Yusuke to do, to attempt to dodge the negative energy so that the seal would work virtually unopposed.

He wasn't dodging a specific thing. He was just dodging Cziri in general. All he wanted to do was get out of the way and move off to prepare himself better. You're saying as if Yusuke would not have any time to dodge, when in fact, he could, especially with the manuevers he did.


I'm saying that instead of dodging the attack, a block should have been used. Dodging doesn't do so much for certain supernatural attacks (like ones that tend to indirectly phase through objects/partially exist on the "spirit/ghost plane". A block could've been anything from a surge of chi (would not have worked well in this case) or whatever your mind can think of.

To Yusuke, he's going to dodge and run. Your attack still is moving at Yusuke. And that has Yusuke move to avoid it. So if this hand or energy is chasing him, then that's what it's doing. He doesn't understand what's going on, so he's doing the smartest thing and going to prepare himself to access the situation. I'm just saying to you that Yusuke doesn't want to stay in one spot. He's running, even if this attack of yours is suppose to get him. So, does that justify things?

Well, you said something about so allowing the mods to see it, we might as well just use a mod's opinion to get the fight back into gear quickly.
PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:35 pm


The first thing that came to mind was the ambiguous nature of the Area of Effect of the energy attack employed by Cziri. He mentioned a series of cone shaped blasts, but didn't mention how large the cones were. A cone ten light years long going from zero to one inch at the opposite end is still a cone, albeit a ludicrously large one. In contract law ambiguous terms are to be judged so that they do not favor the one that wrote them. Even if the cone was based on a 60-90 degree spread I don't see a problem with Yusuke GTFOing to one side as the blast was directed towards Yusuke before his dodge, not in all directions everywhere. If the energy assault chased him down it would contradict the idea of expanding in a cone formation until it met resistance.

In short, lawl, cone.

Tacitus

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Vintrict
Captain

Omnipresent Poster

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:30 am


I was waiting on the other two mods I appointed to come give their word, but it seems like they have't replied yet.

So, Tacitus, please make the call.
PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:05 pm


In short I know not what more to say than that Yusuke's dodge was legal, the cone hereby judged to be too small to effectively strike him after his dodge. The same attack will require more time and ressources in the future if the AoE is to be expanded.

Tacitus

Codger


Ebil Mecha Pup

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007 2:11 pm


I rather doubt that this will recieve attention or even a positive (for me) resolution, as the rules regarding the matter appear to be extremely strict and unbending from what I have seen since the ownership change of the guild.

Regardless, I would like to appeal for the "Ebby vs Qwy" match in the O/M section to be unlocked. I have spoken with Tac, and he seems to have no issue with it. Edit by Tac: I have no issue with the appeal, but a win is a win. XD >.> If I really didn't care I'd have just unlocked it myself. I'm merely stating that I have no opinion, positive or negative, based on involvement and crew status, which makes me want to end this thing (GTB as a whole) sooner rather than later.

I am aware that the probable reason for the lock is time-out - I have been somewhat lax regarding counting out the hour-by-hour 72 hour limitation. Instead, I have been simply checking the date, and shunting in responses on the seemingly appropriate day at any point in time where I was available to do so.

Because of this loose treatment of the time on my behalf, the thread has been locked today, 05-09-07, before I was awake to respond.
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007 1:13 pm


I believe someone else must have done the locking, but from what I have seen in the match, you went over the limit once during the match. After April 20, you did not post till April 24, well past the usual limits. This acts as something against you more than for you. And seeing that you have been replying on later days than normal shows you are probably doing other things in real life, and that I can understand. However, I will give you this one chance to redeem in the continuing of the fight.

Vintrict
Captain

Omnipresent Poster


Ryu Versher 777

Distinct Hunter

PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:42 pm


Judges, there seems to be a problem within the confine of my battle with Genshin Fusaki against Cryovix.

He has a problem with my instantaneous movement. It means it happens the instance he was touched, thus, he threw a thrust toward the man, but the man time-weaves in order to say he didn't get captured at all.

If I'm God-Moding, just say that I am, otherwise, I'll let my character play the part of what he's doing.

So, Cryovix wants judgment on the issue.
PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:11 pm


Opinion: In my fatigued state I will give a preliminary opinion that the instantaneous movement employed by Ryu Verser 777's Genshin is against the regulations of The Gaian Tenkaichi Budoukai. This opinion is given after having read the post in which the instantaneous movement was done and about half of Cryovix's OOC post two or so down from it. I have no opinion on any other matters as I have not read anything else in the fight.

Counterpoint: GTB bans movement faster than the opponent (possibly spectators, can't remember) can see. If Cryovix could see it happening, it may be legal, but I doubt it.

Conclusion: Instantaneous movement is bad, mm'kay. Might be legal, mm'kay. Go ask someone that is lucid and can more thouroughly examine it, mm'kay.

Tacitus

Codger


Vintrict
Captain

Omnipresent Poster

PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:42 pm


Nothing can be instantaneous in this tournament. Unless there's a very very good reason to have something incapable of being avoided, such as a gun from point blank range with a person running toward it without any awareness to it, Cryovix is allowed to react to it. Remember, speed is only relative to a person's reactions, and if your movement is instant to Ryu, it's being viewed slower to Cryovix since we can assume he has topnotch reflexive abilities, like much of GTB. So, Ryu, he is allowed to do that since again, nothing is really instantaneous in this tournament in regards to moving around.
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