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 Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:24 pm
Well, it's been over 8 years and I haven't run into a real witch hunter yet. But, like I said, I try not to get in the way of people who don't want to let the facts get in the way of thier life.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:59 pm
Amabael Well, it's been over 8 years and I haven't run into a real witch hunter yet. But, like I said, I try not to get in the way of people who don't want to let the facts get in the way of thier life. In your 8 years how many members of the yakuza, Mexican or itallian mafias have you encountered? Just cause you dont know or see them does not mean they do not exist. Out of the number of people that goe missing each year from abductions I believe only 3% are due to occultalistic actions such as those I have been a party too. I spoke of what I was taught and know about the people out there that practice this. Just cause you are a sceptic does not mean that everyone will be. Some people believe in aliens. Just cause everyone else has not seen them does not diminish the belief of those who do...
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:05 pm
thought this thread could use a loving mention! OK here we go! WE all love one another based purely on the fact that we are all human... regardless of our race or gender or gender preference or ideas! So now we all love one another right!? *hugs all around (except of course Mitz! All hail the Anti-hug mistress)*
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 7:51 pm
Lozt_1 Amabael Well, it's been over 8 years and I haven't run into a real witch hunter yet. But, like I said, I try not to get in the way of people who don't want to let the facts get in the way of thier life. In your 8 years how many members of the yakuza, Mexican or itallian mafias have you encountered? Just cause you dont know or see them does not mean they do not exist. Out of the number of people that goe missing each year from abductions I believe only 3% are due to occultalistic actions such as those I have been a party too. I spoke of what I was taught and know about the people out there that practice this. Just cause you are a sceptic does not mean that everyone will be. Some people believe in aliens. Just cause everyone else has not seen them does not diminish the belief of those who do... Yeah, but it also doesn't give you the right to claim historical accuracy, and then have nothing to back it up. I'm not saying that you're not allowed to believe what you want. I'm just saying if you're going to make claims that have something to with history, you need to back it up. If you're the only person I know who makes a certain claim, and every historical source I can come up with says you're wrong.....is it so much to ask for proof?
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:06 pm
Amabael Lozt_1 Amabael Well, it's been over 8 years and I haven't run into a real witch hunter yet. But, like I said, I try not to get in the way of people who don't want to let the facts get in the way of thier life. In your 8 years how many members of the yakuza, Mexican or itallian mafias have you encountered? Just cause you dont know or see them does not mean they do not exist. Out of the number of people that goe missing each year from abductions I believe only 3% are due to occultalistic actions such as those I have been a party too. I spoke of what I was taught and know about the people out there that practice this. Just cause you are a sceptic does not mean that everyone will be. Some people believe in aliens. Just cause everyone else has not seen them does not diminish the belief of those who do... Yeah, but it also doesn't give you the right to claim historical accuracy, and then have nothing to back it up. I'm not saying that you're not allowed to believe what you want. I'm just saying if you're going to make claims that have something to with history, you need to back it up. If you're the only person I know who makes a certain claim, and every historical source I can come up with says you're wrong.....is it so much to ask for proof? I could waste my breathe trying to justify myself to you. But I wont as I am bigger then that and have known and do know the facts on the matter at hand. As this will remain a Hofflenosh within your mind either way. Search for the answer, venture into the darker side of what mankind considers reality. When you find you or someone dear to you hurt or worse then I hope you will be happy with what you have found. People disappear everyday...
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:33 pm
Lozt_1 I could waste my breathe trying to justify myself to you. But I wont as I am bigger then that and have known and do know the facts on the matter at hand. As this will remain a Hofflenosh within your mind either way. Search for the answer, venture into the darker side of what mankind considers reality. When you find you or someone dear to you hurt or worse then I hope you will be happy with what you have found. People disappear everyday... Well, then I won't bother with you. But, you know if you really DID have good reason to claim that Warlock is a historical term for witch hunter, you wouldn't have to give me the run around and start trying to veer the course of the subject off into different directions. If you really knew what you were going on about you'd have no problem defending yourself. Your refusal to back it up is really just throwing your credibility out the window not even to me but to really anybody who's done a fair amount of scholarly research. Just as an aside, how old are you anyway?
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:04 pm
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:15 pm
Lozt_1 http://www.cyberwitch.com/Wychwood/Temple/aboutTheHistoryOfTheCraft.htm If you read far enough it will tell you that it was known that these trials were done in Ireland but no written texts was recovered from there... And this has what to do with the subject? I mean....do you even know what I'm arguing with you about? Not to mention there are a few inaccuracies on the site but they're mostly the same misconceptions that float around the internet so I don't make a huge deal out out if. And, I'm not asking your age so I can turn around and say "oh, that's why". I'm just asking because I was wondering if you purposly have your birthday down as the year 1919.....
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:22 pm
I am 26 for your 411. Born 1978 september 18. http://www.ladyoftheearth.com/witch/warlock.txtMore factual warlock wahoo from the net abroad. I could take photos of my family scripts but that would be wrong. There is also a national warlock day. 19 november. It has been celebrated by many cultures for at least a few centuries and is recognised in parts of the US today. If I have been wrong in my actions for half my life then at least I got out before they said drink the punch its to die for...
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 9:39 pm
Ok, well that's all really great information. One problem....nowhere in the document does it say that warlocks hunted witches, which is if you remember what I am contesting.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:00 pm
Amabael Ok, well that's all really great information. One problem....nowhere in the document does it say that warlocks hunted witches, which is if you remember what I am contesting. All I know is what I was taught. The word was used to describe men who pretended to be witches in oorder to penetrate covens and betray them during the Burning times. They were hired by the Inquisition who later had no use for such men. Some were hunted down and tried themselves for being Heretics. As such a lot fled to other parts of the world where they could continue there practices and adapt it to a more fanatical style of Tracking and hunting of known witches and psykers. I only know what I have been taught. As do most other people. I mean if we are not taught then we never know nothing. Take it as you will. But consider I may be the first ever to come forward. And in a world of sceptics and with technology the way it is. It is not who believes me that matters just as long as it does not all fall on def ears. We are were and have been out there for as long as I remember and most my family remembers. Also since my grandfather was shot and killed in april of 1973 for trying to leave the family for moral reasons. I am always careful what I put for others to know. Historical referance so you can look into it. James Francis McBreaty killed in salt lake county Utah by his wife shot while attmepting to leave home Causality to crime Unknown no time served. I know it is little but it is the truth I was taught...
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:12 pm
Well, all I'm saying is if you don't have any presentable proof, then don't present what you're taught as undeniable history.
And, why would anyone hunt witches today? I mean, if we're talking Pagans and Wiccans, nobody's doing anything horrible to other people that they need to be hunted down. It makes no sense to me
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 10:30 pm
I only know that I have served time for my practices against others. My wife has met and seen what the continued practice does to an individual. She is also very strongly opposed to visiting or seeing any of my relatives who still practice this. She made a small post and said I should enlighten them on what I knew and was taught. So I did and have. It may not be largely known but there are lots of things out there that are not largely known. I was taught warlock so thats what I and a few dozen others call it.
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Posted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 11:55 pm
sure the ones i have met were nice and all but the vibe ya got from them was something else.they wouldnt even shake my hand but my husband on the other hand they nearly knocked him over they were so happy to see him.they seemed very untrusting. they knew what i was the moment i walked through their door. they totally respected my husband by not doing anything to me that i am thankful for. they wouldnt even sit in the same room as me. i mean i sat in one room while all of them were in another.they were pale, white if i may say so myself. i can say this, i would not want to be caught in a dark alley by one of them.when they first met me, they looked at me, then at my husband and gave him a look that pretty much said why... so all i can say is they are out there i have met some so be aware and be careful
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 9:30 am
Personally I think I have to worry about witch hunters as much as I have to worry about werepanthers.
But, you still didn't answer my question. What's so horrible about witches today that they need to be hunted?
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