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Nite Lewis
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:44 pm


Gabriella Erzsébet Báthory-Nádasdy de Ecsed,
The Bloody Lady of Čachtice

“We get these unusual, cruel people who make us think about what it is in human nature that makes us behave that way against other human beings”

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Vampirism has long been linked to those who do particularly bloody things. There are historical figures who became vampires by legend. One of them is Elizabeth Bathory, a Hungarian countess that was accused of murdering more than 650 young women in the most sadisctic and heartless acts.

Countess Elizabeth Bathory (1560-1614), often referred to by her Hungarian name, Erzsebet, was a Hungarian noblewoman, born to one of Hungary's wealthiest and most influential families. As with most European aristocratic dynasties, the Bathory clan was fraught with mental illness resulting from a long tradition of inbreeding. King Stephan of Poland ranks as one of Elizabeth's more memorable relatives; the less savory included a bisexual, sadistic aunt and a schizophrenic uncle. Small wonder, then, that Elizabeth began suffering from epileptic fits at the age of four or five. The young Countess was a spoiled child, raised by a string of governesses employed to cater to her every need. Though her erratic fits and stand-offish personality were bothersome, she was generally regarded as an intelligent and capable young woman.

At the age of eleven (or fifteen, by some accounts) Elizabeth became engaged to twenty-six-year-old Count Fernencz Nadasdy, a renowned war hero whose sadistic flair would ultimately earn him fame as "The Black Hero of Hungary." As was not uncommon in aristocratic circles, the marriage was a purely political union engineered by Elizabeth's opportunistic mother. The Nadasdy clan also climbed a few rungs on the social ladder - the Bathorys were a more powerful family with greater seniority. Though much speculation has been published with regard to the Countess' marriage, Fernencz's frequent absences were a hard fact. The first few years of their marriage produced few children, and it was during these long periods of solitude that Elizabeth's sadistic nature took rein.

As a member of aristochrasy, Elizabeth was raised under the assumption that commoners' lives were expendable. Gypsies, villagers, they were all the same, and their lifes, just as their deaths, were meaningless.

In her early twenties, Elizabeth, perhaps in a fit of boredom, discovered that torturing servants "tickled her fancy," if you will. It is said that his husband taught Elizabeth several torture technichs. No clear reasons have yet been given as to why the Countess took such exquisite pleasure in the pain of others, but overwhelming evidence proves that she did. Unfortunately for the teenage females in the servant population, Elizabeth's choice targets were adolescent girls. She began by ripping their bodies apart with red-hot pincers, setting them on fire, and torturing them with "star-kicking," which entailed oiled bits of paper being placed inbetween the servants' toes; the paper would be lit on fire while the Countess delighted in the spectacle of the girls attempting to kick away the flames. (How utterly delightful.) She was known to rip girls' heads apart - literally - by pulling their mouths open until they tore at the edges and the neck snapped. On her better days, she delighted in humiliating girls by forcing them to strip naked and perform their household duties in full view of men.

As the Countess grew steadily older, her thirst for innocent girls' flesh heightened. She invented new forms of torture, "water torture," in which a girl was stripped naked, taken out into sub-zero temperatures, and showered with cold water until she froze to death. Following the death of her husband (which some attribute to the Countess herself, though no strong evidence exists), she became ever more concerned with her fading beauty and began the regular blood-baths which earned her notoriety.

Elizabeth was worried about her fading beauty, and so she asked her wet nurse how could she regain it. The nurse told her that blood is powerful, and human sacrifices "works wonders"; she tells the countess that, if she takes baths with virgin's blood, she would be beautiful forever.

When an unfortunate servant girl pulled the Countess' hair while styling it, Elizabeth slapped the girl so hard that blood splashed on her hand. As she went to wipe it off, she believed that the skin touched by the blood had regained the smooth, creamy complexion for which it had once been famous. Elizabeth ordered the maid's throat slashed and her blood drained into a large vat; she bathed lavishly in the blood while it was still warm.

That was the beginning of a horrible series of murders; hundres of girls were kidnapped for their blood, and their parents never saw them again. During 11 years, the villagers saw how the black carruage of the Countess Báthory came to town, searching young girls, who would dissappear shortly after.

The lifeless bodies were burried close to the castle, till they were so many that the only choice was to throw them in the fields as the beasts' dinner.

Rumors started to circulate - no one could stop thinking that something seriously wrong was going on at the castle. Finally, one fatidic they, they find bones and rests of dozens of girls. The villagers raised their voices, terrified, and complained to their king. There were demons and vampires at the castle!

The authorities took some time to respond to Magyari's complaints. Finally, in 1610, Emperor Matthias assigned György Thurzó, the Palatine of Hungary, to investigate. Thurzó ordered two notaries to collect evidence in March 1610. Even before obtaining the results, Thurzó debated further proceedings with Elizabeth's son Paul and two of her sons-in-law. A Trial and execution would have caused a public scandal, disgraced a noble and influential family (which at the time ruled Transylvania) and Elizabeth's considerable property would have been seized by the crown. Thurzó agreed that Elizabeth Báthory should be kept under strict house arrest, but that further punishment should be avoided.

Testimonies collected in 1610 and 1611 contain a total of more than 300 witness accounts. Trial records include testimonies of the four defendants, as well as 13 more witnesses. Priests, noblemen and commoners were questioned. Eye-witnesses included the castellan and other personnel of Sárvár castle.

Her initial victims were local peasant girls, many of whom were lured to Čachtice by offers of well-paid work as maids in the castle. Later she may have begun to kill daughters of lower gentry, who were sent to her gynaeceum by their parents to learn courtly etiquette by the opportunity to attend a sort of 'finishing school'. Abductions seem to have occurred as well.

Elizabeth was never brought to trial but remained under house arrest in a single room until her death.



PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:45 pm


And this is the story of Countess Báthory, a woman who scares me more than any vampire of monster, for she was real and existed in our same earth, not our imagination.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:50 pm


Nite Lewis
And this is the story of Countess Báthory, a woman who scares me more than any vampire of monster, for she was real and existed in our same earth, not our imagination.
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OOooooh! I was gonna write an article on her. Well, I did, but I was proofreading it. I'll post mine under yours later. After that, I will be doing Vlad Tepes.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 12:59 pm


I simply decided we have to have a selection of the most famous vampire-like characters in our guild biggrin And most of this wasn't done by me.. it's a compilation with some proofreading of mine.

Next I'm going to do a discussion thread about the existence of the soul in vampires. That's one of my favourite themes whee

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:01 pm



uck that's just CREEPY D: I never knew that there was anyone so evil that they got pleasure from ripping little girls heads apart sweatdrop gonk eek
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:04 pm


I tried to keep most descriptions.. away, but I had to put some sweatdrop That woman wasn't on her right mind, I can tell you that. She was raised by her nurse, and it's said that the old woman taught Elizabeth "dark magic". That, and the whole familly had issues..

That's why you must never marry your cousins surprised

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:09 pm


Nite Lewis
That's why you must never marry your cousins surprised

Well there goes my weekend.

My dad has an action figure of her. It's pretty rad, check out the pictures. ^^

You should make a subforum for these sorts of articles, seeing as how there's so many of them being written.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:17 pm


Oh yes, I saw pictures of it... >_> it was creepy.

It's a good idea, the subforum, but I wonder if people would go there to read them?

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Solarn

PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:23 pm


Ahem. As a Hungarian, let me weigh in on this. First of all, you seem to get your information from the most sensationalistic sources. While those are the most interestiong for certain, they are not the most reliable.

First of all, the Báthory family was by far not "one of Hungary's wealthiest and most influential". You must understand that at the time, there were three Hungaries, so to speak, even though technically they were the same country. A good half of the country was in Turkish hands and stayed so for a long time. The remaining part was also cut in two, one part under the influence of Austria and the Habsburgs, and Erdély (Transylvania), which was ruled for a time by the Báthorys. Erdély, while Hungarian, counted itself as a different country and indeed Transylvanian nobility was not nearly as influential as that of the Habsburg part in matters of... well, anything.

Second, it has been proven that the myth of virulent inbreeding in European royal families is just that, a myth. Inbreeding existed to a degree, but generally royal and noble families always found other families to breed with. One notable exception to this are the Habsburgs themselves, mostly because the family was so huge and widespread that there were times in European history when you would have been hard pressed to find a ruler that was NOT a Habsburg.

Third, by that time, nobility was not taught that "commoners' lives were expendable". This was already after the Renaissance and thus the Reformation and indeed much of Erdély was Lutheran, Calvinist or Unitarian. Commoners were not nearly as mistreated as some (mostly American) sources would have you believe.

And fourth, there is no reputable source to the legend of the blood baths. While Báthory Erzsébet (Hungarians spell their names family name first, like Japanese) was indeed a sadistic woman who tortured and killed many people and indeed her husband was most likely party to this, the number of victims your sources cite is absurd and the descriptions of her tortures are likewise.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:52 pm


Ah, I see. I admit some parts were slighty dramatic, as I did this taking in consideration the movies and the books that talk about her as an abomination.

Most of my sources did say that she came from a wealthy family. Considering what was said of it in some articles, I thought it wasn't an exageration xp And the asumption that her madness was the result of inbreeding is a theme that appeared once and once again; I wasn't sure what degree of inbreeding there was, so I left it.

Ah, yes. "Commners' lives were expendable" is entirely my fault. I didn't mean it as you understood it - I was referring to an ocassion during her childhood when she saw a gypsy being burried inside a horse, in a party. The description was rather extensive and exaggerated, so I just suppresed it and tried to explaing her indiference to others peoples lifes without getting into detail.

The blood baths are one of the things that made her famous in vampiric literary, I had to put it in (And believe me, I suppresed lots of other descriptions that were far more fantastic). The tortures may be a bit dramatic, but as I'm not an expert in this theme I wasn't able to separate reality of fantasy.

And again, I just wrote down what seemed to be the most realistic traits of her without having to copypaste Wikipedia.

Of course, I'm not saying you're not right, just... D: It wasn't my intentions to sound sensationalistic. I'm sorry.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:55 pm



The action figure is CREEPY! Who would want an action figure with dead heads and a woman bathing in blood!!
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:12 pm


Agent Full Blood

The action figure is CREEPY! Who would want an action figure with dead heads and a woman bathing in blood!!

Sunako from Yamato Nadeshiko Shichi Henge.

In other words, horror fans. (Sunako~ heart heart )

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:16 pm


Nite Lewis
Ah, I see. I admit some parts were slighty dramatic, as I did this taking in consideration the movies and the books that talk about her as an abomination.

Most of my sources did say that she came from a wealthy family. Considering what was said of it in some articles, I thought it wasn't an exageration xp And the asumption that her madness was the result of inbreeding is a theme that appeared once and once again; I wasn't sure what degree of inbreeding there was, so I left it.

Ah, yes. "Commners' lives were expendable" is entirely my fault. I didn't mean it as you understood it - I was referring to an ocassion during her childhood when she saw a gypsy being burried inside a horse, in a party. The description was rather extensive and exaggerated, so I just suppresed it and tried to explaing her indiference to others peoples lifes without getting into detail.

The blood baths are one of the things that made her famous in vampiric literary, I had to put it in (And believe me, I suppresed lots of other descriptions that were far more fantastic). The tortures may be a bit dramatic, but as I'm not an expert in this theme I wasn't able to separate reality of fantasy.

And again, I just wrote down what seemed to be the most realistic traits of her without having to copypaste Wikipedia.

Of course, I'm not saying you're not right, just... D: It wasn't my intentions to sound sensationalistic. I'm sorry.

I understand. But you were saying them as if you believed them to be facts, so I felt I had to set you right.

For the record: please don't mention Dracula in front of any Romanians. They think of Vlad as a national hero (conveniently forgetting the part where he worked for the Hungarians) and most take offense at the vampire legend.
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:25 pm


I was going to post that story but, I see you got it before me. Thats okay. xp


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:47 pm


Agent Full Blood

The action figure is CREEPY! Who would want an action figure with dead heads and a woman bathing in blood!!

Quite a few people, actually.
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