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 Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:34 pm
Just curious, I was thinking of trying it myself and I wanted someone's perspective.
Typically because I tend to over-romanticize things... So I think it would be amazing but it's probably really bad....
I think I'm rambling.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:51 pm
I've had a little experience when it comes to acid. Had a few number of trips (about 6 or 7 times in 18 months, not trying to do any d**k sizing, just to help with the experience).
Now mind you I have had the equivital horrible trip. But it was my own fault. One of the biggest rules to remember with psychedelics is set and setting. You should be in a familiar place with people you know and be in a pleasent state of mind. My first time was with people I just met in one of their houses. This lead to a horrible trip culminating in me thinking I was bleeding to death while scorpions and spiders ate my flesh and the people I was with turned into werewolves screaming "I want to sleep and I want to be awake and I want to sleep and I want to DIE!"
However I didn't get scared from it because I knew that what had happened was from poor planning. Since then all of my trips had been much better. The only ever downside I ever had was when I almost hooked up with a guy despite really liking someone else. Didn't have a bad trip but started crying.
As long as you are safe about it and have a sober sitter with you (or an experienced person also tripping) then if you want to I would say ok.
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 8:45 pm
RaveKitten13 I've had a little experience when it comes to acid. Had a few number of trips (about 6 or 7 times in 18 months, not trying to do any d**k sizing, just to help with the experience). Now mind you I have had the equivital horrible trip. But it was my own fault. One of the biggest rules to remember with psychedelics is set and setting. You should be in a familiar place with people you know and be in a pleasent state of mind. My first time was with people I just met in one of their houses. This lead to a horrible trip culminating in me thinking I was bleeding to death while scorpions and spiders ate my flesh and the people I was with turned into werewolves screaming "I want to sleep and I want to be awake and I want to sleep and I want to DIE!" However I didn't get scared from it because I knew that what had happened was from poor planning. Since then all of my trips had been much better. The only ever downside I ever had was when I almost hooked up with a guy despite really liking someone else. Didn't have a bad trip but started crying. As long as you are safe about it and have a sober sitter with you (or an experienced person also tripping) then if you want to I would say ok. That's one of my problems, I only know one person who would kind of help me through it and he refuses to let me touch the stuff because while he andhis friends were all on acid his one friend started to peel his skin because he thought he was an orange, anyway, the kid died becase they wer all to stoned to make him stop. So you can see why he'd be cautious especially since I had a horrid first time smoking weed.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:26 am
hippiefoRk RaveKitten13 I've had a little experience when it comes to acid. Had a few number of trips (about 6 or 7 times in 18 months, not trying to do any d**k sizing, just to help with the experience). Now mind you I have had the equivital horrible trip. But it was my own fault. One of the biggest rules to remember with psychedelics is set and setting. You should be in a familiar place with people you know and be in a pleasent state of mind. My first time was with people I just met in one of their houses. This lead to a horrible trip culminating in me thinking I was bleeding to death while scorpions and spiders ate my flesh and the people I was with turned into werewolves screaming "I want to sleep and I want to be awake and I want to sleep and I want to DIE!" However I didn't get scared from it because I knew that what had happened was from poor planning. Since then all of my trips had been much better. The only ever downside I ever had was when I almost hooked up with a guy despite really liking someone else. Didn't have a bad trip but started crying. As long as you are safe about it and have a sober sitter with you (or an experienced person also tripping) then if you want to I would say ok. That's one of my problems, I only know one person who would kind of help me through it and he refuses to let me touch the stuff because while he andhis friends were all on acid his one friend started to peel his skin because he thought he was an orange, anyway, the kid died becase they wer all to stoned to make him stop. So you can see why he'd be cautious especially since I had a horrid first time smoking weed. Just so you know, he probably made up the story just to scare you from it. The "I'm an orange" myth is really just a myth. Could he tell you the kid's name and was it in the news? What probably actually happened is he didn't have a good trip and he wanted to try his hardest to keep you from it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:20 am
RaveKitten13 hippiefoRk RaveKitten13 I've had a little experience when it comes to acid. Had a few number of trips (about 6 or 7 times in 18 months, not trying to do any d**k sizing, just to help with the experience). Now mind you I have had the equivital horrible trip. But it was my own fault. One of the biggest rules to remember with psychedelics is set and setting. You should be in a familiar place with people you know and be in a pleasent state of mind. My first time was with people I just met in one of their houses. This lead to a horrible trip culminating in me thinking I was bleeding to death while scorpions and spiders ate my flesh and the people I was with turned into werewolves screaming "I want to sleep and I want to be awake and I want to sleep and I want to DIE!" However I didn't get scared from it because I knew that what had happened was from poor planning. Since then all of my trips had been much better. The only ever downside I ever had was when I almost hooked up with a guy despite really liking someone else. Didn't have a bad trip but started crying. As long as you are safe about it and have a sober sitter with you (or an experienced person also tripping) then if you want to I would say ok. That's one of my problems, I only know one person who would kind of help me through it and he refuses to let me touch the stuff because while he andhis friends were all on acid his one friend started to peel his skin because he thought he was an orange, anyway, the kid died becase they wer all to stoned to make him stop. So you can see why he'd be cautious especially since I had a horrid first time smoking weed. Just so you know, he probably made up the story just to scare you from it. The "I'm an orange" myth is really just a myth. Could he tell you the kid's name and was it in the news? What probably actually happened is he didn't have a good trip and he wanted to try his hardest to keep you from it. No it really was in the news. And his other friend, Colleen, that was there confirmed it.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:39 am
hippiefoRk RaveKitten13 hippiefoRk RaveKitten13 I've had a little experience when it comes to acid. Had a few number of trips (about 6 or 7 times in 18 months, not trying to do any d**k sizing, just to help with the experience). Now mind you I have had the equivital horrible trip. But it was my own fault. One of the biggest rules to remember with psychedelics is set and setting. You should be in a familiar place with people you know and be in a pleasent state of mind. My first time was with people I just met in one of their houses. This lead to a horrible trip culminating in me thinking I was bleeding to death while scorpions and spiders ate my flesh and the people I was with turned into werewolves screaming "I want to sleep and I want to be awake and I want to sleep and I want to DIE!" However I didn't get scared from it because I knew that what had happened was from poor planning. Since then all of my trips had been much better. The only ever downside I ever had was when I almost hooked up with a guy despite really liking someone else. Didn't have a bad trip but started crying. As long as you are safe about it and have a sober sitter with you (or an experienced person also tripping) then if you want to I would say ok. That's one of my problems, I only know one person who would kind of help me through it and he refuses to let me touch the stuff because while he andhis friends were all on acid his one friend started to peel his skin because he thought he was an orange, anyway, the kid died becase they wer all to stoned to make him stop. So you can see why he'd be cautious especially since I had a horrid first time smoking weed. Just so you know, he probably made up the story just to scare you from it. The "I'm an orange" myth is really just a myth. Could he tell you the kid's name and was it in the news? What probably actually happened is he didn't have a good trip and he wanted to try his hardest to keep you from it. No it really was in the news. And his other friend, Colleen, that was there confirmed it. That's strange. Generally acid doesn't do that because it's not a delirient. Now the difference between a psychedelic halucination and a deliriet/schizophrenic one is that you are supposed to be able to discern that what you are seeing is only because of the drug under a psychedelic one (delirient or schizophrenic ones however will feel completely real).
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:59 pm
I've tried it a few times, and it's nothing like I thought it would be. It's an amazing experience, though.
If you're going to try it, I'd recommend a trip sitter, having a valium on hand if you just can't take it (I can't say it works, myself, since I've never wanted to end or soften up a trip, I take even the bad trips as part of myself), and I'd recommend you do it out in the country, where you can find quiet and darkness... I so want to get an isolation tank...
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 5:23 pm
RaveKitten13 hippiefoRk RaveKitten13 hippiefoRk RaveKitten13 I've had a little experience when it comes to acid. Had a few number of trips (about 6 or 7 times in 18 months, not trying to do any d**k sizing, just to help with the experience). Now mind you I have had the equivital horrible trip. But it was my own fault. One of the biggest rules to remember with psychedelics is set and setting. You should be in a familiar place with people you know and be in a pleasent state of mind. My first time was with people I just met in one of their houses. This lead to a horrible trip culminating in me thinking I was bleeding to death while scorpions and spiders ate my flesh and the people I was with turned into werewolves screaming "I want to sleep and I want to be awake and I want to sleep and I want to DIE!" However I didn't get scared from it because I knew that what had happened was from poor planning. Since then all of my trips had been much better. The only ever downside I ever had was when I almost hooked up with a guy despite really liking someone else. Didn't have a bad trip but started crying. As long as you are safe about it and have a sober sitter with you (or an experienced person also tripping) then if you want to I would say ok. That's one of my problems, I only know one person who would kind of help me through it and he refuses to let me touch the stuff because while he andhis friends were all on acid his one friend started to peel his skin because he thought he was an orange, anyway, the kid died becase they wer all to stoned to make him stop. So you can see why he'd be cautious especially since I had a horrid first time smoking weed. Just so you know, he probably made up the story just to scare you from it. The "I'm an orange" myth is really just a myth. Could he tell you the kid's name and was it in the news? What probably actually happened is he didn't have a good trip and he wanted to try his hardest to keep you from it. No it really was in the news. And his other friend, Colleen, that was there confirmed it. That's strange. Generally acid doesn't do that because it's not a delirient. Now the difference between a psychedelic halucination and a deliriet/schizophrenic one is that you are supposed to be able to discern that what you are seeing is only because of the drug under a psychedelic one (delirient or schizophrenic ones however will feel completely real). Wow, you know alot. So do you happen to know if foxglove flowers can cause a drug-like delirium? Because I know it causes delirium I'm just not sure if there's different kinds....
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Posted: Wed Jun 27, 2007 2:41 pm
Foxglove is a digitalis, which acts on the parasympathetic nervous system, heart rate in particular, and is used to treat heart conditions. Or the drugs derived from it are, I should say.
I've never heard of anyone using it for enjoyment, but I haven't really thought to look... my first instinct, cos of the heart thing, is to leave off entirely. And... phooey. Erowid lists it, but there's no faq, no experiences... *pouts* Here's the only link it lists. o_O;
It's not nightshades you're thinking of, is it?
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 8:08 pm
faolan Foxglove is a digitalis, which acts on the parasympathetic nervous system, heart rate in particular, and is used to treat heart conditions. Or the drugs derived from it are, I should say.
I've never heard of anyone using it for enjoyment, but I haven't really thought to look... my first instinct, cos of the heart thing, is to leave off entirely. And... phooey. Erowid lists it, but there's no faq, no experiences... *pouts* Here's the only link it lists. o_O;
It's not nightshades you're thinking of, is it? I read it in the book Choke I'm certain it said foxglove.... (mostly because I'd remember nightshade... but I always thought it was posionous.) The book said it caused nausea, delerium, and something else (probably fever). I was just curious how severe the nausea and fever would be and what exactly the delirium would be like, you know, to see if it would even be worth it.
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Posted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 6:27 am
hippiefoRk faolan Foxglove is a digitalis, which acts on the parasympathetic nervous system, heart rate in particular, and is used to treat heart conditions. Or the drugs derived from it are, I should say.
I've never heard of anyone using it for enjoyment, but I haven't really thought to look... my first instinct, cos of the heart thing, is to leave off entirely. And... phooey. Erowid lists it, but there's no faq, no experiences... *pouts* Here's the only link it lists. o_O;
It's not nightshades you're thinking of, is it? I read it in the book Choke I'm certain it said foxglove.... (mostly because I'd remember nightshade... but I always thought it was posionous.) The book said it caused nausea, delerium, and something else (probably fever). I was just curious how severe the nausea and fever would be and what exactly the delirium would be like, you know, to see if it would even be worth it.
And I'm a bibliophile anyway, so now I'm doubly curious... *googles* Chuck Palahniuk?
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 10:40 am
chibi-faolan hippiefoRk faolan Foxglove is a digitalis, which acts on the parasympathetic nervous system, heart rate in particular, and is used to treat heart conditions. Or the drugs derived from it are, I should say.
I've never heard of anyone using it for enjoyment, but I haven't really thought to look... my first instinct, cos of the heart thing, is to leave off entirely. And... phooey. Erowid lists it, but there's no faq, no experiences... *pouts* Here's the only link it lists. o_O;
It's not nightshades you're thinking of, is it? I read it in the book Choke I'm certain it said foxglove.... (mostly because I'd remember nightshade... but I always thought it was posionous.) The book said it caused nausea, delerium, and something else (probably fever). I was just curious how severe the nausea and fever would be and what exactly the delirium would be like, you know, to see if it would even be worth it.
And I'm a bibliophile anyway, so now I'm doubly curious... *googles* Chuck Palahniuk?Yup that's it. I love Choke, Invisible Monsters is good too if you don't mind homosexuality. The author's most noted for his book-made-movie Fight Club which I would also recommend. One warning though, they're all about how pathetic humanity is. So it can get pretty depressing and ridiculous at some times but I read his work because, occasionally, (usually toward the last few pages) he's got some really awesome moral that can be hidden a little. I highlighted one the first time I read Choke but I didn't get it until I read it the fourth time..... sweatdrop
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Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:28 pm
hippiefoRk I love Choke, Invisible Monsters is good too if you don't mind homosexuality. The author's most noted for his book-made-movie Fight Club which I would also recommend. One warning though, they're all about how pathetic humanity is. So it can get pretty depressing and ridiculous at some times but I read his work because, occasionally, (usually toward the last few pages) he's got some really awesome moral that can be hidden a little. I highlighted one the first time I read Choke but I didn't get it until I read it the fourth time..... sweatdrop
As far as the foxglove bit goes, I don't know enough about Palahniuk to give it weight... like, if it were a Michael Crichton book, for example, Crichton's a bona fide doctor, out of Harvard Med, and he researches (and footnotes) the hell out of his novels... 'Course, now I'm curious enough that I'll probably see what I can track down. ^^;
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Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:41 am
ive wanted to try acid for years, but ive only done shrooms once, and i projectile puked excorcist style sweatdrop and ive been told by several people that you should do shrooms a couple times before juming into acid. but now that i have stomach/anxiety troubles i should peobably stay far far away sad
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Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:47 am
I take the shrooms for medicinal reasons (my hypothalamus needs a good kick in the teeth every few months and the psilocybin does the trick). I usually only take about half a recreational dose, enough to get me good and giggly-stoned but not enough to realize full hallucinations.
Had some bad trips, but you take the good with the bad. I take advantage of the bad ones as stress therapy. As said before, set and setting make all the difference, as well as having someone sober around just in case you need guidance.
One thing I think people get scared of is themselves. On the hallucinogens you can't filter yourself. You'll get the full presentation of yourself, warts and all. Many people don't like or don't accept their warts and they get uncomfortable, which can spiral the trip into emotional negativity. That's when the bubbles and rainbows turn into thunderstorms and serpents.
Most people get sick on shrooms because they eat them raw, but there are recipes out there that make them far more palatable than Raw God's Flesh. smile
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