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| How do you relate to the past? |
| Regret |
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14% |
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| Anger |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Sadness |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| Self-mutilation |
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7% |
[ 1 ] |
| Other (Actual Response) |
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35% |
[ 5 ] |
| Other (I support the average poll wh0re) |
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42% |
[ 6 ] |
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| Total Votes : 14 |
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 Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:28 pm
The past is an interesting thing. Like the future, it isn't right here and right now, but unlike said future, we can look back at it and...well, now that's the point of this thread, isn't it?
How do you think we, as a society/country/species, relate to the past? Or, in league with the poll, how do you relate to it?
I'll wait until, oh, tomorrow morning before posting my answers. Give you people a chance to talk amongst yourselves a bit.
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Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 10:00 pm
Look back on it for happy memories, but do not dwell on mistakes. Use it as something to learn from.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:32 am
The past has both a negative and positive effect on life... it gives us a basis for things we can get away with that may not be moral or proper... and also gives us a basis for things that we can do that have a visible positive effect upon society. We must not dwell too much on the past, but must also take into account our past mistakes and successes to make appropriate actions now for a more positive future.
Often times, dwelling too much on the past will ruin the present which leads to a bleak and repetitive future. Getting stuck in a rut. I often think about the past, laugh at my previous ignorance and keep in mind that while I may THINK I am less ignorant today, the future will prove different. I am ALWAYS learning, therefore always progressing beyond my previous ignorance.
Thoughts of the past often revolve around relationships with friends, girlfriends and family... along with the exciting and depressing things that humanity has done to itself.
What makes me the angriest is when the past has the solid answers to problems of today, but we refuse to admit or accept those answers due to money, perceptions or plain ignorance.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:34 am
Without learning about the past and from it, the future will not be the end but the beginning of humanity again. What I mean is that the past, History, is what allows humanity to progress and to improve. Without the steps that humanity has taken in previous centuries, such as the "democratic" founding of America or the imperalist conquering of Africa, the industrial revolution or the violent regional clashes may not exist.
As for me, the past hasn't been particularly difficult. However, I tend to see things with distorted lenses and envision chaos where there is none. I am struggling (and have overcome) self injury and am still trying to make peace with myself.
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Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:30 am
The past.
We, as a society, look back at it for advice. But, often, the advice we pull up from the grave is not the right kind. Instead of admitting our mistakes, we attempt to justify them, which only leads to more controversy and arguement. What we really need to do is say, 'oops, I did that wrong, I'll have to make sure I do it right next time.'
Unfortunately, that's against human nature. I attempt to follow my said theory, but it's hard to avoid dwelling on a supposed justification of my mistakes. People want to feel as if they are perfect, and the mind has enormous power to make that dream a reality. The problem is, our minds have no power to avoid the desastrous consequences they inevitably bring upon themselves.
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:25 am
I mine eyes, society sees the past as some sort of plague to be rectified, and looked upon as not a tool, but an avoidance. We fear that the future will be like the past, yet we are not willing to chnage what could br from what was.
Personally however, I see the past as a learning experience, and something to detach from. 'Good' or 'bad' there is no reason to hold on to something for which there is no use. once you've learned, the reasons of education are no longer a need, so long as the lesson stays with you. It just makes life all that much easier.
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Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 7:42 am
Ye've all said the same thing, but I think I can word it simply...
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it." - George Santayana
I'm sorry if this is rather short...I'm not interested in life much this morning.
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:06 pm
Just now... I finally took the poll. Given the choices I had... I choice "regret." Why, I wonder? (that damned question again) And a simple answer... I always think that I could have done better. Even when I tried my best, I always think it could've been better. That is rather my outlook on life all together. "It could be done better." Damn... now I gotta run to the "Sayings of the Wise and Bewildered." ha ha...
As for the future... I always see uncertainty... and hope that someday I will actually do it "right" for once, which means it would affect me and everyone around me in a positive way. *grabs a stool and strikes 'The Thinker' pose"
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 7:09 am
I like to study the past. Understanding what happened and why it happened seems to me to be the best way to either repeat the event or prevent it.
To understand the past, I have to go through many stages before I reach my conclusions--there may be things I regret at first, or get angsty about, but eventually, I calm myself, break things down, and understand what occured.
I cannot say that society (at least in America) does the same. Many times, we are blinded by what we want to believe has happened, and we allow or force certain things to be covered up, thus marring our understanding of what really happened. Blind faith in one's history and country can be disasterous, as you can see if you look into the past.
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Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:45 am
ochimaru Why, I wonder? (that damned question again) Indeed. I would tend to think that the past could be useful to learn from, and then I see my young protege here. He's 14, to my 18, and he's almost exactly like I was at that age, even to how he treats his parents. It sickens me to think that I treated my mother that way, and so I get depressed.
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Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2005 5:18 pm
Well, you know, as they say: "youth is wasted on the youth"
The problem is, you can only learn from the past when it IS the past. When it's the present, you seem not to be able to tell that you are doing anything wrong. If you get what I'm saying. Sometimes, I think to myself: "I know that this might be stupid and terribly naive, but, this time mgiht be different!" And of course it isent, but I STILL can never stop myself from thining that. Then, when the thing has gone by and it's in the past, I look at it and say: "Crap. Why did I do that?" I, like ochimaru, chose 'regret' in the poll.
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:55 pm
the past... i beleive that you should forgive but never forget. learn from your mistakes but whatever happens happens you know and i wouldn't change a god damn thing sometimes. it's like that. to know both good and evil, to understand one you must understand the other how can you know good without evil. personally i think you can go back and change the past but why would you want to. whats happened has happened what would you accomplish by changing it. it is the realm of possibility i look forward to if i did this would this happen it's a very wonderful sensation drifting through the realm of possibility and chance... it's nice that things can change and that past creates a stable foundation for change...
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:10 pm
Generally, yes, that's a good way to think. But sometimes, the things we've done need to be forgotten...at least that's what I think...
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:19 pm
if you knew everything most likely you'd be driven insane too much detail... which is why we forget... and yes if people can't deal with what has happened maybe they should forget untill they are ready to deal but no even that type of forgetting you never really forget anything at all. it's still there and it will find a way out. the only thing you truly forget is the useless garbage you get everyday.when will people learn that when you surpress memories they find a way out weather you realise it or not. things are only as important as you let them be it's all personal veiw point... if you think about it if you deal with it properly it can be better.. it can actually be a good thing sometimes.. if you can't deal then yeah maybe it's better to forget
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Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:24 pm
Sinesthera if you knew everything most likely you'd be driven insane too much detail... which is why we forget... and yes if people can't deal with what has happened maybe they should forget untill they are ready to deal but no even that type of forgetting you never really forget anything at all. it's still there and it will find a way out. the only thing you truly forget is the useless garbage you get everyday.when will people learn that when you surpress memories they find a way out weather you realise it or not. things are only as important as you let them be it's all personal veiw point... if you think about it if you deal with it properly it can be better.. it can actually be a good thing sometimes.. if you can't deal then yeah maybe it's better to forget Heh...you're assuming I'm not already insane. Sorry, but I have to disagree. Check some of my earlier posts in here for confirmation. But yeah, I'm becoming aware that nothing can be suppressed fully, but I can damn well try...maybe I'll die before I have to deal with it resurfacing. One can only hope...
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