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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 1:48 am
I have jury duty tomorrow... I don't wanna go... It's gonna be so boring, I just know it... emo
I've never had jury duty before. Aside from it being super boring, I'm afraid it'll be some big crazy case and I'll have someone's life in my hands or something and I won't make the right judgement. I hope I'm not chosen. Or if I am, I hope it'll be some lame civil case or something. crying
Any of you guys ever had jury duty? Is it as horrible as TV makes it out to be? (I know... nothing is really as horrible as TV makes it out to be... rolleyes )
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 8:43 am
I've never had Jury Duty... But if I did, I'd take my Nintendo DS xd
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 2:29 pm
I wanna go!
Please let me, it's usually funny as hell or stuff that makes you think. It's rarely boring.
Also it's not horrible stuff and the decision is shared. =]
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:54 pm
Well, I'm bringing a book to read while I'm waiting to be interviewed. You're not allowed to have things like that in the courtroom, though. I'm nervous about talking to the judge and the lawyers... I don't want to make myself look like an idiot or something... ninja
I'd let you go if I could, BlueRaven... but since you seem to enjoy it, it's made me feel a bit better about it at least. *sigh* neutral
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 4:57 pm
I've never been, too young, but my family have told me awesome stories about them.
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Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2007 11:46 pm
Oh, I see. Well, either way...
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:14 pm
Well, I just got back from the courthouse. I wasn't chosen for the jury. Although now I'm kinda disappointed. I want to know how the case turns out. ninja
It was a criminal case involving highschool boys beating up another kid to the point of hospitalization and filming it (which is apparently a big trend recently). The one I would have been serving on was for the alledged filmer. It was a very interesting case. The defendant was a church-goer and volunteered at a soup kitchen and seemed altogether like a nice kid. I wanna know if he did it or not.
I think I wasn't chosen because I have a friend who was the victim in an assault case and also my dad coincidentally works with the defendant's dad. Also my uncertainty of whether I could tell if a witness was being truthful in their testimony or not probably had something to do with it. I dunno for sure, they didn't tell me. *shrug*
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 12:59 pm
Sounds like a good old fashioned hypocrite to me. All nice and helpful and pious until he finds someone who doesn't share his views, in which case he becomes violent and cruel.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:10 am
Geez, whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? stare
Why does it have to have something to do with his views at all? If he did, in fact, commit the crime, it could very well have been simply a typical teenage moment of complete and utter stupidity.
But of course, adults are perfectly capable of falling into the same (or worse) levels of stupidity. Stupidity is like an incurable plague or something. It's contagious and everything. It can even lead to death in many occasions. This could be worth doing a study. rolleyes *ends rant*
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:20 am
From what you are saying I want to see their evidence for him being the guy filming. And if the evidence seems ok, I'd say that he got pulled in by his friend or that he'd didn't like the guy, either way he's a church-goer so wouldn't want to get a bad view by people.
But that's only if the evidence points as so. 3nodding
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:38 pm
Church-going has very little to do with it...
But, sorry you weren't admitted to the League of Justice. Might have been interesting.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:44 pm
Please enlighten me how filming others beat a child to an inch of his life can be construed as "teenage stupidity" or "having been pulled into it"?
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:58 pm
Are you aware of how popular that particular act is right now amongst teens? It's a big trend to film a kid getting beat up and put it on the internet. Teenager have an inexplicable need to get as much attention as they possibly can, positive or negative. By following a trend like this, they think they will be thought of as "cool" or "badass" by others. They want to be famous by putting something on the internet and getting it watched millions of times. THAT IS TEENAGE STUPIDIDTY. Caps for emphasis, not yelling.
And peer pressure is a HUGE problem today (and in the past). Kids are taught that they can do whatever they want by society (music, movies, books, TV, video games AND inattentive parents) and when a group of them is doing something stupid, the others want to join in so they won't be called a wuss or whatever. Kids do things like this and worse a lot more than you seem to be willing to admit.
And finally... We don't know whether this particular kid did do anything wrong at all! That's why he's on trial! He does not have any obligation to prove his innocence because he is already presumed to be innocent. It is up to the prosecution to prove his guilt!
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:22 pm
Oh yeah. Sorry. I always forget that you people live in America.
And I know, but I'm like most other people and can't help but wonder how he could be before a jury without his guilt having already been found out. I mean, usually an investigation precedes these things, so by the time the case gets to court, there's already evidence of who did it.
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:13 pm
There are vast numbers of cases which go to court only to have the defendant found to be not guilty. The whole reason for having a trial in the first place is so that the police and whoever else can't just say "Well, this guy said you did it, so you're going to jail."
I mean, I have no idea what the evidence in this particular case is, but say for example, it was the defendant's camera that was found to have the video on it (or whatever). It's possible his camera was taken by a friend or sibling without his consent. Perhaps he was implicated by the attacker instead of the real filmer in order to protect that person (or because he doesn't like camera's owner). Maybe the defendant doesn't have a clue who actually took and used his camera, so he can't say anything other than "I didn't do it."
See why it's bad to just assume someone is guilty because they are on trial? Just because there was enough evidence to get a warrent (which doesn't require much) doesn't mean there is enough solid evidence to convict someone (which requires proof beyond reasonable doubt). It is entirely possible for an investigator to be wrong.
Quite frankly, I'm a bit disturbed by your apparent "shoot first, ask questions later" attitude. You're probably not intending to come off like that, but you sort of are. neutral
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