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ungod ubiquitous

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:13 pm


If enough chronokinetics were gathered, and they all focused on one area, like a city, and concentrated and used their power to the fullest, would it be possible to do something like make a seperate hour. Like an hour that passes by in a second to everybody else, but lasts what would be an hours time to them? I think that would be pretty challenging, but VERY fun and VERY rewarding. I mean, how many other people here have wished for another hour in the day? It hasn't just been me, has it. ((Oh god I hope not. XD))
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 4:43 pm


*twitch*
stare

Um. Unlikely.

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DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 5:22 pm


You can't...create time. Time is named by humans anyway. You can alter one's perception of it, but that's about it. So, technically you could get together a bunch of chronokinetics and...all create the same perception of the same amount of time, but that'd be nearly impossible to get everyone to match up exactly, since everyone's natural perception of time is different anyway.

But to "make a seperate hour"? No. Or at least, I don't believe it's possible.

On a side note, you've heard "a watched pot never boils," no doubt? The more you concentrate on waiting for something to happen, the longer it seems to take? I suppose using that concept you could, in essence, "create" time.
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:52 pm


Well, I didn't exactly mean creat. I meant more of stretching one moment out, but only for certain people.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 6:59 pm


One word.

Fotamecus.

Your question's as good as any other "What would happen if you got enough Xs...?"-format question; suffice to say, we don't know. I can't say either way if it could work or not, cause I've never seen anything like it, besides Fotamecus and some minor making-me-not-so-late-for-the-train magick. I'm with Dras on saying you could alter your perception of time, which would be easier and it'd work with fewer participants.

Other Fotamecus-related stuff:
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/fotamec3.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec1.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/fotamec4.html
PostPosted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 7:35 pm


According to relativity, time can be dilated by moving at a speed close to light or by an extreme amount of gravity.

That kind of dilation would affect *everyone* with no exception if they were within that field of gravity or whatever was moving near the speed of light.


Altering the perception of time is much more likely. Then again, you'd have to think about what would happen if you could alter your perception of time to the point of making an entire hour for yourself. Would you just be moving really fast? What would the repercussions of that be?

The whole thing just makes my head hurt.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:41 pm


Mitsh
One word.

Fotamecus.

Your question's as good as any other "What would happen if you got enough Xs...?"-format question; suffice to say, we don't know. I can't say either way if it could work or not, cause I've never seen anything like it, besides Fotamecus and some minor making-me-not-so-late-for-the-train magick. I'm with Dras on saying you could alter your perception of time, which would be easier and it'd work with fewer participants.

Other Fotamecus-related stuff:
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/fotamec3.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/texts/fotamec1.html
http://www.chaosmatrix.org/library/chaos/rites/fotamec4.html

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:59 pm


Time and light are the same as a speaker and a sound....Well kinda, our senses are what give us the ability to calculate and figure out time but ARE NOT the same thing.
Light does not travel at the same speed of time becuase time has not speed, now light is the fastest known thing we can sense but even if you want 2x the speed of light time would not slow down nor speed up.
Your perception of time may change but time is the only thing that almost a constant.
You can alter both your perception and the flow of time but not great enough to do much of anything.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:01 am


I'm just going to interject the age old belief, that if you mess with time, all it nets is problems.
PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 12:03 am


Scratillion2
I'm just going to interject the age old belief, that if you mess with time, all it nets is problems.

Quitter.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 7:07 pm


The FLCL Guy
Time and light are the same as a speaker and a sound....Well kinda, our senses are what give us the ability to calculate and figure out time but ARE NOT the same thing.
Light does not travel at the same speed of time becuase time has not speed, now light is the fastest known thing we can sense but even if you want 2x the speed of light time would not slow down nor speed up.
Your perception of time may change but time is the only thing that almost a constant.
You can alter both your perception and the flow of time but not great enough to do much of anything.


Time itself would not, but to you it would. If you're moving near the speed of light then say a thousand years goes by. You're going to age very little because when you're near the speed of light you're changing very little over even the largest amounts of time. All of this according to the theory of relativity of course. I don't think it's possible to actually test it.

Same thing applies for being in an intense gravity field such as near a black hole. Time is dilated. What feels like 2 seconds for you will actually be a week or so outside of the "dilation bubble".

Blame Einstein for the headaches.
PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:22 pm


A faster heart rate makes time seem to move slower. That's why really great sex seems like it lasts hours, but turns out to have only been about 40 minutes. That's also why taking small children on car trips is an invitation to insanity (heart rate slows as you age - an hour to you is an eternity to a two-year-old).

So...I'll take "a massive orgy to induce slowed time perception" for the win.
And if anybody tries this, I will personally laugh my a** off.

My favorite method of feeling like I have more time involves drinking a cup of yerba mate tea. It does the same thing (well, minus a few bonuses), and is in theory nowhere near as depleting as caffeine. Not to mention, you can do something besides keep having sex with all that perceived free time.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 8:44 pm


Yvaine
A faster heart rate makes time seem to move slower. That's why really great sex seems like it lasts hours, but turns out to have only been about 40 minutes. That's also why taking small children on car trips is an invitation to insanity (heart rate slows as you age - an hour to you is an eternity to a two-year-old).

So...I'll take "a massive orgy to induce slowed time perception" for the win.
And if anybody tries this, I will personally laugh my a** off.

My favorite method of feeling like I have more time involves drinking a cup of yerba mate tea. It does the same thing (well, minus a few bonuses), and is in theory nowhere near as depleting as caffeine. Not to mention, you can do something besides keep having sex with all that perceived free time.

... What else is there to do?
PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:38 am


Joshua_Ritter
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I'm just going to interject the age old belief, that if you mess with time, all it nets is problems.

Quitter.


Don't come crying to me when you step on a bug in some ancient time and it turns us all into deranged mutant beasts. Actually, do come and complain... My deranged mutant self will probably be hungry for human flesh.

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DrasBrisingr

PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:59 pm


Yvaine
A faster heart rate makes time seem to move slower. That's why really great sex seems like it lasts hours, but turns out to have only been about 40 minutes. That's also why taking small children on car trips is an invitation to insanity (heart rate slows as you age - an hour to you is an eternity to a two-year-old).

So...I'll take "a massive orgy to induce slowed time perception" for the win.
And if anybody tries this, I will personally laugh my a** off.

My favorite method of feeling like I have more time involves drinking a cup of yerba mate tea. It does the same thing (well, minus a few bonuses), and is in theory nowhere near as depleting as caffeine. Not to mention, you can do something besides keep having sex with all that perceived free time.
The whole "massive orgy FTW" thing made me spew gatorade from my nose. It was highly uncomfortable, but oh-so-worth it. Mainly because I had a related conversation today. I wish I would have thought of that during the conversation.
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