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 Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 11:25 am
Let's discuss banned books ^.^ Why they be banned? Have you read them? What did you think of them? What is banning? How does a book get banned? Think of more topics, and let's discuss and speculate.
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Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:37 pm
A challenge is an attempt to remove or restrict materials, based upon the objections of a person or group. A banning is the removal of those materials. Challenges do not simply involve a person expressing a point of view; rather, they are an attempt to remove material from the curriculum or library, thereby restricting the access of others. Censorship occurs when expressive materials, like books, magazines, films and videos, or works of art, are removed or kept from public access. Individuals and pressure groups identify materials to which they object. Sometimes they succeed in pressuring schools not to use them, libraries not to shelve them, book and video stores not to carry them, publishers not to publish them, or art galleries not to display them. Censorship also occurs when materials are restricted to particular audiences, based on their age or other characteristics. Reasons cited for censorship: Censors might sincerely believe that certain materials are so offensive, or present ideas that are so hateful and destructive to society, that they simply must not see the light of day. Others are worried that younger or weaker people will be badly influenced by bad ideas, and will do bad things as a result. Still others believe that there is a very clear distinction between ideas that are right and morally uplifting, and ideas that are wrong and morally corrupting, and wish to ensure that society has the benefit of their perception. They believe that certain individuals, certain institutions, even society itself, will be endangered if particular ideas are disseminated without restriction. What censors often don?t consider is that, if they succeed in suppressing the ideas they don?t like today, others may use that precedent to suppress the ideas they do like tomorrow. Throughout history, books have been challenged for many reasons, including political content, sexual expression, or language offensive to some people?s racial, cultural, or ethnic background, gender or sexuality, or political or religious beliefs. Materials considered heretical, blasphemous, seditious, obscene or inappropriate for children have often been censored. In most instances, a censor is a sincerely concerned individual who believes that censorship can improve society, protect children, and restore what the censor sees as lost moral values. But under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, each of us has the right to read, view, listen to, and disseminate constitutionally protected ideas, even if a censor finds those ideas offensive.
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Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 8:54 pm
<.< And that's what it means to ban a book. Here's a list of banned books I borrowed ninja from this site provided by Aeric Brightleaf.
Books Banned at One Time or Another in the United States
A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy's Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It's Okay if You Don't Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley's Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O'Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women's Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The b*****d by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil's Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won't by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth
So...either ramble about a book that's been banned or how banning is bad or if you want to defend banning...Don't make me start talking about A Wrinkle in Time again sweatdrop
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:26 pm
I didn’t know that the U.S. still banned books. Isn’t that a violation of our rights? Any way book banning is a stupid way for governments to control there populaces way of thinking. By banning Books, they believe that they can force there belief on others, insuring that we will always agree with them. It makes me sick to think about it. I mean who are they to tell me what is appropriate or not appropriate for me to study and read.
sorry sore subject for me.
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 3:43 pm
I've read quite a few of these books, some disturbing sweatdrop , some from odd perespectives, but I don't see why anyone would weant them banned...can someone just give me an example for one of these particular books about why it was banned? xp
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:47 pm
Wolfeona The Wise I didn’t know that the U.S. still banned books. Isn’t that a violation of our rights? Any way book banning is a stupid way for governments to control there populaces way of thinking. By banning Books, they believe that they can force there belief on others, insuring that we will always agree with them. It makes me sick to think about it. I mean who are they to tell me what is appropriate or not appropriate for me to study and read. Yes....We do many things you do not know about ninja And rights? Doesn't matter if we violate them *chuckles darkly* We'll make you give up those rights by taking over the media and only play news which produces fear. You'll willingly give up all your rights then when faced with terrorism and diseased, and as time goes on, we'll take away anything that produces any sort of intelligence in the nation. Lowering the education level and banning books. Why...You know, my dear, sweet little girl... Books contain ideas, and these ideas stir up trouble. Why should you burden yourself, or the rest of Amerca, with these ideas that are best left up to intellectuals and the people that run the government? They know what they're doing... *laughs darkly* <.< Why yes I have been reading 1984 and seen V for Vendetta...
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:58 pm
Here's a list I stole *coughcough* <.< from this site. It contains short little reasons why the certain books are banned.
The “10 Most Challenged Books of 2005” reflect a range of themes. The books are:
“It's Perfectly Normal” for homosexuality, nudity, sex education, religious viewpoint, abortion and being unsuited to age group; “Forever” by Judy Blume for sexual content and offensive language; “The Catcher in the Rye” by J.D. Salinger for sexual content, offensive language and being unsuited to age group; “The Chocolate War” by Robert Cormier for sexual content and offensive language; “Whale Talk” by Chris Crutcher for racism and offensive language; “Detour for Emmy” by Marilyn Reynolds for sexual content; “What My Mother Doesn't Know” by Sonya Sones for sexual content and being unsuited to age group; Captain Underpants series by Dav Pilkey for anti-family content, being unsuited to age group and violence; “Crazy Lady!” by Jane Leslie Conly for offensive language; and “It's So Amazing! A Book about Eggs, Sperm, Birth, Babies, and Families” by Robie H. Harris for sex education and sexual content. I tried to read one of the Chocolate War books once...The first chapter was two people in a car making out and "touching" each other. I was like, "o.o what the crap?" and that was the end of that ^.^ But that was a long time ago. I used to be very unopened to many things. I might try Chocolate Wars again to see if it had any redeeming quailities. Some more interesting stuff that'll help give you an idea why books are banned... Between 1990 and 2000, of the 6,364 challenges reported to or recorded by the Office for Intellectual Freedom 1,607 were challenges to “sexually explicit” material (up 161 since 1999); 1,427 to material considered to use “offensive language”; (up 165 since 1999) 1,256 to material considered “unsuited to age group”; (up 89 since 1999) 842 to material with an “occult theme or promoting the occult or Satanism,”; (up 69 since 1999) 737 to material considered to be “violent”; (up 107 since 1999) 515 to material with a homosexual theme or “promoting homosexuality,” (up 18 since 1999)and 419 to material “promoting a religious viewpoint.” (up 22 since 1999) Other reasons for challenges included “nudity” (317 challenges, up 20 since 1999), “racism” (267 challenges, up 22 since 1999), “sex education” (224 challenges, up 7 since 1999), and “anti-family” (202 challenges, up 9 since 1999). Here's a ban list that includes nations around the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_books
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Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:09 pm
Gods, but that list gave me chills. There were classics on that list!
Just the few that I can point out immediately:
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
East of Eden by John Steinbeck (!!!)
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou (!!!!!)
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck (!!!)
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain (same book?)
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Color Purple by Alice Walker (!!!)
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck (!!!)
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare (!?!)
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee (!!!!!)
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare (!?!)
By all that's good, I swear my jaw dropped when I saw I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings, and hardly came up before dropping several more times on the way down that list.
With Shock, and sadness for the nation that banned books like The Color Purple,
~Leavaros
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 12:13 pm
Yeah, Leavaros, I noticed too. I liked The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. It was banned for racism...but the racism in the story was not extreme and was a part of the story. I think Huck even questions it towards the end. I want to say the book itself questioned racism, but I don't remember sweatdrop
I noticed some books were banned for poltical reasons <.< Some didn't support a nation's political beliefs. The US War Department has banned in the past books that were anti-war and pacifist. Kinda sad there... I don't think the US does this anymore, or at least as much. I dunno though ^.^
But other parts of the world have banned books for...stupid reason o.o Alice in Wonderland was banned from China in 1930's, because animals spoke as well as humans and that went against Chinese beliefs. Then South Africa banned Black Beauty because the title contained the word "black." Or so Wikipedia says...I sure hope it was banned for more of a reason than that ~.~;;;
Poll time! Does anyone think that books that have been supposedly written for CHILDREN (under 12) that contain very sexual content or bad potty humor should be banned? If not, why and do you have a solution to that problem =P
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 2:24 pm
The Grapes of Wrath was banned? confused It was a classic! What the hell...? Someone got a stick up his butt about it and now it's gone. That is SO wrong.
If you're going to ban a book... make it something like this (actually, it's funny as hell). How about we just don't ban books?
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Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:03 pm
crystalsmuse The Grapes of Wrath was banned? confused It was a classic! What the hell...? Someone got a stick up his butt about it and now it's gone. That is SO wrong.
If you're going to ban a book... make it something like this (actually, it's funny as hell). How about we just don't ban books? *clicks link and stares* Too....much....testosterone....*twitches hard and tries not to vomit* And here's a link about the Grapes of Wrath <.< for those of us who don't really know what it is. Funny thing is I thought it was much older....
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:37 pm
Sooo...anybody have anything to say about banned books or books that have been banned? My brain's mush ~.~ Leavaros, start rambling about The Giver and stuff again <.< Somebody ramble. Express outrage or acceptance to book banning.
Hmm...I kind of think that book banning is all right in some instances, like for sexual content in children's books, non-age appropriate writing. I'm hesitant to say we should ban all hate literature, because we're in America. We're supposed to be able to say what we want and believe, and if we believe whites are superior then...yeah...I don't like hate and I think people should have more sense then to publish a hate work.
But banning books for political reasons and what I would deem "stupid" reasons (Black Beauty and Alice in Wonderland) is not all right. Uhh...blah blah...
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:59 pm
glorybaby Wolfeona The Wise I didn’t know that the U.S. still banned books. Isn’t that a violation of our rights? Any way book banning is a stupid way for governments to control there populaces way of thinking. By banning Books, they believe that they can force there belief on others, insuring that we will always agree with them. It makes me sick to think about it. I mean who are they to tell me what is appropriate or not appropriate for me to study and read. Yes....We do many things you do not know about ninja And rights? Doesn't matter if we violate them *chuckles darkly* We'll make you give up those rights by taking over the media and only play news which produces fear. You'll willingly give up all your rights then when faced with terrorism and diseased, and as time goes on, we'll take away anything that produces any sort of intelligence in the nation. Lowering the education level and banning books. Why...You know, my dear, sweet little girl... Books contain ideas, and these ideas stir up trouble. Why should you burden yourself, or the rest of Amerca, with these ideas that are best left up to intellectuals and the people that run the government? They know what they're doing... *laughs darkly* <.< Why yes I have been reading 1984 and seen V for Vendetta...ok are you making fun of me? and those people that run the gov. were once idealst too. any way i think too some extent im right. and on a better point i get my ideas from the books i read. lol
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:18 pm
Wolfeona The Wise glorybaby Wolfeona The Wise I didn’t know that the U.S. still banned books. Isn’t that a violation of our rights? Any way book banning is a stupid way for governments to control there populaces way of thinking. By banning Books, they believe that they can force there belief on others, insuring that we will always agree with them. It makes me sick to think about it. I mean who are they to tell me what is appropriate or not appropriate for me to study and read. Yes....We do many things you do not know about ninja And rights? Doesn't matter if we violate them *chuckles darkly* We'll make you give up those rights by taking over the media and only play news which produces fear. You'll willingly give up all your rights then when faced with terrorism and diseased, and as time goes on, we'll take away anything that produces any sort of intelligence in the nation. Lowering the education level and banning books. Why...You know, my dear, sweet little girl... Books contain ideas, and these ideas stir up trouble. Why should you burden yourself, or the rest of Amerca, with these ideas that are best left up to intellectuals and the people that run the government? They know what they're doing... *laughs darkly* <.< Why yes I have been reading 1984 and seen V for Vendetta...ok are you making fun of me? and those people that run the gov. were once idealst too. any way i think too some extent im right. and on a better point i get my ideas from the books i read. lol *sigh* -_-; I'm making fun of governments, particularly the governments in the book 1984 and the movie V for Vendetta, which are totalitarian governments that control people through various methods. They ban books and other things in V for Vendetta, and in 1984 all writings and all news articles that have been published are constantly being updated to reflect that the government is and has always been right and to eliminate ideas, so that the people's brains are puddy. The government publishes all fiction, which is watered down garbage made on a machine. It sounded like they just mixed and matched plots from a set they made. Blah blah, too lazy to say anymore...
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:35 pm
Well, I haven't read any nationally banned books. But my High school ban books that they do not seem to be appropitate for our moral values.
The latest banned book that I've read is a book thats banned for cruel humor along with apparently overseen terrorism acts towards the US goverment (like it tells you that if you were to attak the white house that would gain you many possitive things yadda yadda and sort It makes you think like if things like that were right to do). So technically it teaches people bad values so it should not be read or held by anybody. Found reading said book or in possesion in said book punishment is a warning along with said book being confiscated. Next you'll get an meeting with a fellow staff member in the office. Thats how it is at my school.
I didn't read it. My friend was told about it we located it and he read some stuff on it. We didn't like it so we burned it.
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