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Darin Rosewood

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 12:29 pm


Anyone believe in these? They've always been topics of interest for me, and I like talking about them.
Discuss:
--Whether or not you believe in werecreatures or physical shapeshifting
--Any methods you might know
--Just about anything realted to the topic! ^_^
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:08 pm


They used to say at night witches would turn into cats when their husbands were away so they spend the evening with their true lovers or something. xd
I really don't believe that though...

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Milendil

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 2:13 pm


Honestly, I don't beleive in werewolves. It seems to fantasy-like for me. But I fo beleive that people and animals can change into anything, but only on the astral plane. Theoreticly, people could change into something else using spells and enchantments and things of that sort, but I've never heard of it. I guess alchemy might work...
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 3:23 pm


I don't think one can actually shape shift. From the books I've read witches use hallucinogenic (i hope i spelt that correctly) herbs, so they think they transformed or flew.

I'm GUESSING people thought they transformed because they would see their pet/ familiar perhaps going in and out of the house.

But we don't know... perhaps it is real, there are alot of documentations about transformation during witch trials. Witches confessing, such as Isobel Gowdie renowned as 'Queen of Scottish Witches' claiming to have seen faeries transform and taught her how to fly. Witches, other than using their astral forms and 'brooms' to go to a Sabbat, they were also said to transform.

Perhaps shapeshifting in the astral plane? or gain astral limbs... not really sure ^^;;

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:10 pm


Check the otherkin subforum.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 6:20 pm


Joshua_Ritter
Check the otherkin subforum.
Though, it should be noted that Physical Shapeshifting is often a touchy issue in Therianthropic communities. Some believe it's possible and many of the therians that I've spoken with do not. However, there have been a few who have claimed that they have the ability to shift. All of those whom I met on internet communities who claimed being able to possess this ability, none have been able to prove it. They all just made excuses and were therefore deemed to be posers/roleplayers/faking it.

I have yet to find someone who can actually prove their ability to Physically Shift. neutral

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:07 pm


Pageantry
Joshua_Ritter
Check the otherkin subforum.
Though, it should be noted that Physical Shapeshifting is often a touchy issue in Therianthropic communities. Some believe it's possible and many of the therians that I've spoken with do not. However, there have been a few who have claimed that they have the ability to shift. All of those whom I met on internet communities who claimed being able to possess this ability, none have been able to prove it. They all just made excuses and were therefore deemed to be posers/roleplayers/faking it.

I have yet to find someone who can actually prove their ability to Physically Shift. neutral


I know quite a few online who don't believe in physical shapeshifting...there's a whole guild dedicated to therians (and there are some werewolves on there) called ((On The Inside)). I check there every so often, despite the fact that I'm not were.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:29 pm


There are just too many biological complications when it comes to converting one species into a completely seperate species. It would take a massive amount of literal, physical energy and would be on such a scale that not even the most adept psion could control it.

At least that's what I think. If anyone has anything to show otherwise, I'd like to see it.

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Pageantry

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 7:31 pm


The Vampire Jonathan
There are just too many biological complications when it comes to converting one species into a completely seperate species. It would take a massive amount of literal, physical energy and would be on such a scale that not even the most adept psion could control it.

At least that's what I think. If anyone has anything to show otherwise, I'd like to see it.
As would I.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 9:55 pm


I do believe it's possible, mainly because i regularly deal with unexplained occurances. My favorite being full-moon paranoia (*** i can't spell today).

On the full moon, the hospital gets an average of 60% more casualties and 30% more fatalities than normal. (scientifically proven)

I have a theory...

If you have a constant of DNA... AATGAATGCAACT (used for generalized purposes) and you have a life close to radioactivity... like in a nuclear power plant or such, then the DNA could be warn down by the constant occurence and abuse. And then wierd Radiation from the moon that we can't explain comes into play, and suddenly the DNA goes KABLOOIE.

It reforms on any other present mapping avalible, like wolf DNA for example.

this could also explain why there are so many reports of werecreatures around the world, because all kinds of genetic material can be used.

the only problem with this theory is that Transformation time would be over two hours in direct moonlight,

and knife-in-every-square-inch-of-skin painful. like death-to-people-with-heart-conditions painful.

noblelyon


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:37 am


Any physical thing can be bent or transformed into another thing even with differant attoms...But the mass must be equal to before.
Now I dont mean that its 100% posible but in theory, yes its posible
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:21 am


The FLCL Guy
Any physical thing can be bent or transformed into another thing even with differant attoms...But the mass must be equal to before.
Now I dont mean that its 100% posible but in theory, yes its posible
The density of the altered form could be changed, theoretically. We seem to be using that word alot on this guild. ^_^

Darin Rosewood


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:42 am


It's believed that stories of werewolves developed out of archaic explanations of acts of mass murder or serial murder. For instance, I believe in Lithuania, a werewolf was a woman cursed by a spirit and was forcefully made to put on a wolf skin every night which would immediately imbue them with an animalistic desire for blood and murder. She would then kill and eat her own children, then any other children related to her, before going onto the children of strangers. When morning came the spirit would remove the skin and the woman would become normal again.

But that's just one example. If werewolves do exist, I've got my work cut out for me. There's enough creepy s**t in this world as it is, I don't need 9 feet of howling furry warform on the list as well.
PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 7:46 am


noblelyon
I do believe it's possible, mainly because i regularly deal with unexplained occurances. My favorite being full-moon paranoia (*** i can't spell today).

On the full moon, the hospital gets an average of 60% more casualties and 30% more fatalities than normal. (scientifically proven)

I have a theory...

If you have a constant of DNA... AATGAATGCAACT (used for generalized purposes) and you have a life close to radioactivity... like in a nuclear power plant or such, then the DNA could be warn down by the constant occurence and abuse. And then wierd Radiation from the moon that we can't explain comes into play, and suddenly the DNA goes KABLOOIE.

It reforms on any other present mapping avalible, like wolf DNA for example.

this could also explain why there are so many reports of werecreatures around the world, because all kinds of genetic material can be used.

the only problem with this theory is that Transformation time would be over two hours in direct moonlight,

and knife-in-every-square-inch-of-skin painful. like death-to-people-with-heart-conditions painful.


Uh, you do know how far fetched that would be? DNA is one of the most chemically inactive molecules in the human body. If radiation, disease or any other such thing was able to change the structure of DNA, it would be so strong the rest of the body would be completely dead before any sort of change of DNA could occur.

Then you are neglecting the fact that proteins are more responsible for genetics and human construction than DNA ever was. Don't you think the Human Genome Project would have found something which makes humans if they were that fundamentally vital? But they didn't. Which is why they are now examining proteins, which have at least three to four times as many varieties as DNA does codes (which is approximately 3 billion).

If shapeshifters DO exist, which, let's face it, is highly unlikely on the scale of little men becoming big animals, then it's not gonna be down to something like DNA or genetics.

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noblelyon

PostPosted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 9:55 pm


seriously. I'm not saying the theory is practical, but only possible.


not to mention, that there are some mentions in the story about transformation killing. ^^;

it would take such tremendous energy, even gaining animalistic characteristics, that anyone smaller or less robust than most, would die of overexertion. Did i mention that it would take a LOOOOONG time?
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