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 Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:37 pm
Has anyone ever read his stories? Have you noticed something, well, different about his plays? Something that hasn't even been that dramatic since our modern day romance movies?
His Women.
Most of the stronger characters in his plays are women. In Macbeth for example, Lady Macbeth is far more powerful in the realationship. Even Cleaopatra was a strong willed woman. This is durring a time when women had no choices in their lives and were treated like livestock, only married off for land or unity or sex.
Their are only 3 documents with Shakespears signature. Many experts think Shakespear was not real, but a combination of many different playwrights.
Counld one of them have been a woman?
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:38 pm
Oh, I just noticed I made some mistakes!
Sorry 'bout that!
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:05 pm
His name is spelled "Shakespeare," dear ^_^
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Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:33 pm
that could be, maybe?
but i doubt it. i think it's just conencidence. women weren't respected enough back then unfortunatly
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 12:50 am
This idea's an old one.
I don't believe all of Shakespeare's plays were written by one person, but I do believe there was a Shakespeare, and that he did write many of his plays.
Stronghearted says women weren't respected enough back then. That's precisely why they might publish under the "Shakespeare", isn't it?
Now, while we're on the topic of Shakespeare, I think I might go rambling off about Shakespearean theatre.
It's common knowledge that there were no female performers in those plays, and that the female roles were actually played by young boys with high voices. Actually, one reason there were no female performers was that for a woman to travel with a group of performing men was, in the words of my English teacher, "one step below being a whore". Most of the young boys taken to perform female roles were orphans. When the young boys' voices lowered when they grew older, the boys were simply ditched by the troupe.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:12 am
I've read the Taming of the Shrew. There was a character named Katherina who struggled against the men of her time. She faced off constantly with her fiance/husband Petruchio, who she had been pretty much sold to by her father. In the end she pretty much gave into Petruchio and amazed everyone with her proper behaviour, though I think this could have presented a really feminist view in the actual acting (sarcastic, hysterical, satirical etc).
I'm pretty sure that a William Shakespeare did exist and write plays because a fair bit was known about him (birthplace, wife, children, info newspaper reports etc). It never occured to me that not all of his plays may have been his though...
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:24 pm
Either way, Shakespearean plays are brilliant. I love the sarcastic strong-willed women he (they?) portray.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 2:30 pm
Btw, ya might wanna put "Spoiler Warning" in the first title, in case there are people that DON'T know the plots of some Shakespearean plays and actually don't want it spoiled for them. I know, I know, that sounds ridiculous, but just to be safe..
And, a poll.
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Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 6:01 pm
Shakespeare in Love is a great movie, and sort of shows the young boys playing a femaly role in a play, it's quite hilirious.
I've never been introduced to Shakespeare, or anything until this semester in college since i'm taking Introduction to Theatre.
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Posted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 11:38 am
i definitly love the nurse from romeo and juliet... as well as the crossdresser girl in twelfth night. beatrice from much ado about nothing is cool too.
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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:08 pm
Poll added ninja
I couldn't resist correcting the spelling error "Shakespear" so I corrected it to "Shakespeare" sweatdrop
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 3:51 pm
i heard that rumour too that shakespear is a fraud, that he failed high school english or something and it would have been impossible for him to have so many allusions and poetic devices that are so well written and clever unless he was more then one person.
i have no proof that this is true, i do know that these are well written, yet boring stories.
i do know for a fact that all the women in his plays were played by men, so it's not completely in favor for women.
what is very confusing though in my opinion is in twelfth night, where Viola is a woman pretending to be a man, which in reality was a man dressed as a woman pretending to be a man >_>
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 4:32 pm
Stronghearted11 that could be, maybe? but i doubt it. i think it's just conencidence. women weren't respected enough back then unfortunatly
When it comes to history though, we often underestimate human will. We look at the past through statistics most of the time. I think it's very possible. People today lying, cheating, stealing, and breaking standard social norms.
I would think highly unussual of people didn't REALLY brea k from the established norms. There IS history of women joining military service. Sometimes they did so for lovers, sometimes they did it because they wanted to. I can't help but think women would do things as men when they weren't supposed to be.
I've always thought something was funny about shakespear. I still think that shakespear was a single person but maybe more is attributed to him than is worth doing so.
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:40 am
Rather Shakespeare was the true author or not we most likely can never say for sure. However collaborations weren't unheard of in those times. So for all we know several of his plays could have been the result of uncredited collaborations. Though I personally don't care for Shakespeare I think it is necessary to acknowledge rather he really wrote them or not the contribution that the plays have made to Litterature. I found the Wiki on the debate about the AUthorship rathe rinteresting. (Yeah I know Wiki isn't hte most reliable but it's still an interesting read and the referneces are interesting if you want to go more in depth.) Here it is If you wish to read it. Another wiki related to it is the Debate over The Bard's Sexuality. And here's this one if your curious
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:54 pm
I think Shakespeare is a dirty old man who didn't like women....rather wanted to be one. Why do you think all of his strong characters were women and why all of his writings are about love? Was it just coincidence that he went into theater where women roles were played by young men?
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