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DCVI
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:55 am


The following is an archive and collection of pro-life facts, sources, information, and material that you may find useful or informative.

Enjoy.

Abortion Terminology:
[1]
Abortion Terminology Continued:
[2]
Development in the Womb:
[3]
Useful links and sources:
[4]
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:57 am


Originally Posted by Lymelady:

Terminology

Okay, anyone who's gone into a debate can tell you that you use the wrong word, and your argument is ignored. Let's go over how some words that come up many, many times in abortion discussions are defined.

The one in red is most relevant, I've included all listed definitions for clarity. Unless they all apply, the one I"m talking about will be in red.


Abortion
Webster's
Main Entry: abor�tion
Pronunciation: &-'bor-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the termination of a pregnancy after, accompanied by, resulting in, or closely followed by the death of the embryo or fetus: as a : spontaneous expulsion of a human fetus during the first 12 weeks of gestation -- compare MISCARRIAGE b : induced expulsion of a human fetus c : expulsion of a fetus by a domestic animal often due to infection at any time before completion of pregnancy -- compare CONTAGIOUS ABORTION
2 : MONSTROSITY
3 : arrest of development (as of a part or process) resulting in imperfection; also : a result of such arrest

No, I did not make up number 2. Though I did laugh at it a bit when I saw it. Abortion can be induced, what we're talking about, or spontaneous...it happens naturally. No interference from anyone to bring it about.



Alive; living
Webster's
Main Entry: alive
Pronunciation: &-'lIv
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English on life, from on + lIf life
1 : having life : not dead or inanimate
2 : still in existence, force, or operation : ACTIVE
3 : knowing or realizing the existence of : SENSITIVE
4 : marked by alertness, energy, or briskness
5 : marked by much life, animation, or activity : SWARMING
6 -- used as an intensive following the noun
synonym see AWARE
- alive·ness noun

How is something alive? Why it meets the characteristics of living things!

Originally, I was going to type them from my zoology text, but I'm way too lazy.

CHARACTERISTICS OF LIVING THINGS
(the one I found here is pretty good and easy to understand.)
Quote:
1. Motion -- not only external but internal, based on the observation of the greek scientist Aristotle. It means that there is movement of water, nutrients and waste materials within the organism, if it is indeed alive.

2. Metabolism -- "eating", "drinking" and "burning" are different. Metabolism requres intake of nutrients (particularly those which contains energy), which is PROCESSED BY THE CELLS of the organism to produce CONTROLLED amounts of energy that it needs to live, and along with it, waste products. To understand more, try putting taugi (mongo sprouts) in a mug, place a thermometer in it, and cover the mug. Even when the mug was not shaken or put to flame, the temperature increases. that's because there's METABOLISM in the taugi.

3. Growth -- living things grow. Dead ones don't.

4. Reproduction -- by itself/themselves, living things must produce their own kind, in order to make its specie survive. Take note that to reproduce, the living thing/organism does not need organisms of other kinds, and also, the ones that is produced must carry the genetic material (binhi/lahi) passed from its parent. That's why you (who's reading this) are a human! If an old saying says "wala bayabas nga gapamunga santol", my saying is "waay tawo nga gabata amo!"

5. Cellular and Physical Organization -- the cells and the organs of an organism must function TOGETHER. If not, the organism might die, and that is irreversible. Try it with the head of the chicken. When you return the head, the chicken's still dead. That's because it needs its organs to work TOGETHER.

Does a fetus meet these qualifications? If a human does, than yes. Which humans do. A fetus cannot reproduce, but an organism is not defined by one stage of life, or babies wouldn't be alive either. Nor would old people. Entities are defined as organisms based on the species as a whole, not one stage.


Baby
Webster's
Main Entry: 1ba·by
Pronunciation: 'bA-bE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural babies
Etymology: Middle English, from babe
1 a (1) : an extremely young child; especially : INFANT (2) : an extremely young animal b : the youngest of a group
2 a : one that is like a baby (as in behavior) b : something that is one's special responsibility, achievement, or interest
3 slang a : GIRL, WOMAN -- often used in address b : BOY, MAN -- often used in address
4 : PERSON, THING
- ba·by·hood /-bE-"hud/ noun
- ba·by·ish /-ish/ adjective

Technically, there are no babies killed in abortion. A baby is the stage of life after we're born. Just like if a bunch of four-year olds were killed in a car crash, there were no teenagers or adults killed in that crash.

There were still humans killed, though.


Blastula
Webster's
Main Entry: blas·tu·la
Pronunciation: 'blas-ch&-l&
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -las or blas·tu·lae /-"lE/
Etymology: New Latin, from Greek blastos
: an early metazoan embryo typically having the form of a hollow fluid-filled rounded cavity bounded by a single layer of cells -- compare GASTRULA, MORULA

After Zygote. Erm...I'll get into it in the developement thread in more detail.


Child
Webster's
Main Entry: child
Pronunciation: 'chI(&)ld
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural chil·dren /'chil-dr&n, -d&rn/
Usage: often attributive
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English cild; akin to Gothic kilthei womb, and perhaps to Sanskrit jathara belly
1 a : an unborn or recently born person b dialect : a female infant
2 a : a young person especially between infancy and youth b : a childlike or childish person c : a person not yet of age
3 usually childe /'chI(&)ld/ archaic : a youth of noble birth
4 a : a son or daughter of human parents b : DESCENDANT
5 : one strongly influenced by another or by a place or state of affairs
6 : PRODUCT, RESULT

Yes....A fetus is a child. A human is a child as soon as its got its own dna. We're all children.

Cleavage
Webster's
Main Entry: cleav·age
Pronunciation: 'klE-vij
Function: noun
1 a : the quality of a crystallized substance or rock of splitting along definite planes; also : the occurrence of such splitting b : a fragment (as of a diamond) obtained by splitting
2 : the action of cleaving : the state of being cleft
3 : the series of synchronized mitotic cell divisions of the fertilized egg that results in the formation of the blastomeres and changes the single-celled zygote into a multicellular embryo; also : one of these cell divisions
4 : the splitting of a molecule into simpler molecules
5 : the depression between a woman's breasts especially when made visible by the wearing of a low-cut dress

No, not boobs. Cell division. You probably won't run into it, but just in case, there it is.


Conception
Webster's
Main Entry: con·cep·tion
Pronunciation: k&n-'sep-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English concepcioun, from Old French conception, from Latin conception-, conceptio, from concipere
1 a (1) : the process of becoming pregnant involving fertilization or implantation or both (2) : EMBRYO, FETUS b : BEGINNING
2 a : the capacity, function, or process of forming or understanding ideas or abstractions or their symbols b : a general idea : CONCEPT c : a complex product of abstract or reflective thinking d : the sum of a person's ideas and beliefs concerning something
3 : the originating of something in the mind
synonym see IDEA
- con·cep·tion·al /-shn&l, -sh&-n&l/ adjective
- con·cep·tive /-'sep-tiv/ adjective

There's another word that comes up a lot.


Embryo
Webster's
Main Entry: em·bryo
Pronunciation: 'em-brE-"O
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural em·bry·os
Etymology: Medieval Latin embryon-, embryo, from Greek embryon, from en- + bryein to swell; akin to Greek bryon catkin
1 a archaic : a vertebrate at any stage of development prior to birth or hatching b : an animal in the early stages of growth and differentiation that are characterized by cleavage, the laying down of fundamental tissues, and the formation of primitive organs and organ systems; especially : the developing human individual from the time of implantation to the end of the eighth week after conception
2 : the young sporophyte of a seed plant usually comprising a rudimentary plant with plumule, radicle, and cotyledons
3 a : something as yet undeveloped b : a beginning or undeveloped state of something

Between conception and 8 weeks in humans. This is the stage before it has all organs.


Fetus
Webster's
Main Entry: fe·tus
Pronunciation: 'fE-t&s
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, act of bearing young, offspring; akin to Latin fetus newly delivered, fruitful -- more at FEMININE
: an unborn or unhatched vertebrate especially after attaining the basic structural plan of its kind; specifically : a developing human from usually three months after conception to birth

8 weeks to birth, medically speaking.


Gastrula
Websters
Main Entry: gas·tru·la
Pronunciation: 'gas-tr&-l&
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -las or gas·tru·lae /-"lE, -"lI/
Etymology: New Latin, from gastr-
: an early metazoan embryo in which the ectoderm, mesoderm, and endoderm are established either by invagination of the blastula (as in fish and amphibians) to form a multilayered cellular cup with a blastopore opening into the archenteron or by differentiation of the blastodisc (as in reptiles, birds, and mammals) and inward cellular migration -- compare BLASTULA, MORULA

After blastula. Erm...I'll get into it in the developement thread in more detail.


Homicide
Webster's
Main Entry: ho·mi·cide
Pronunciation: 'hä-m&-"sId, 'hO-
Function: noun
Etymology: in sense 1, from Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin homicida, from homo human being + -cida -cide; in sense 2, from Middle English, from Middle French, from Latin homicidium, from homo + -cidium -cide
1 : a person who kills another
2 : a killing of one human being by another

This is where abortion falls, as opposed to murder. Murder is illegal, abortion is legal. It is homicide though.


Human
Webster's


Main Entry: human
Function: noun
: a bipedal primate mammal (Homo sapiens) : MAN; broadly : any living or extinct member of the family (Hominidae) to which the primate belongs
- hu·man·like /-m&n-"lIk/ adjective

A fetus is a human. Not a bear, or a chicken, or a honda.


Kill
Webster's

Main Entry: 1kill
Pronunciation: 'kil
Function: verb
Etymology: Middle English, perhaps from (assumed) Old English cyllan; akin to Old English cwellan to kill -- more at QUELL
transitive senses
1 a : to deprive of life b (1) : to slaughter (as a hog) for food (2) : to convert a food animal into (a kind of meat) by slaughtering
2 a : to put an end to b : DEFEAT, VETO c : to mark for omission; also : DELETE
3 a : to destroy the vital or essential quality of b : to cause to stop c : to check the flow of current through
4 : to make a markedly favorable impression on
5 : to get through uneventfully ; also : to get through (the time of a penalty) without being scored on
6 a : to cause extreme pain to b : to tire almost to the point of collapse
7 : to hit (a shot) so hard in various games that a return is impossible
8 : to consume (as a drink) totally
intransitive senses
1 : to deprive one of life
2 : to make a markedly favorable impression

Yeah, kinda stupid to add it, but just in case.


Morula
Webster's
Main Entry: mor·u·la
Pronunciation: 'mor-(y)&-l&, 'mär-
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural mor·u·lae /-"lE, -"lI/
Etymology: New Latin, from Latin morum mulberry, from Greek moron
: a globular solid mass of blastomeres formed by cleavage of a zygote that typically precedes the blastula
- mor·u·lar /-l&r/ adjective
- mor·u·la·tion /"mor-(y)&-'lA-sh&n, "mär-/ noun

Before blastula. Erm...I'll get into it in the developement thread in more detail.


Murder
Webster's
Main Entry: 1mur·der
Pronunciation: 'm&r-d&r
Function: noun
Etymology: partly from Middle English murther, from Old English morthor; partly from Middle English murdre, from Old French, of Germanic origin; akin to Old English morthor; akin to Old High German mord murder, Latin mort-, mors death, mori to die, mortuus dead, Greek brotos mortal
1 : the crime of unlawfully killing a person especially with malice aforethought
2 a : something very difficult or dangerous b : something outrageous or blameworthy

Not murder, since it's legal. By this definition, neither was the holocaust...all that Hitler did was perfectly legal. Just remember not to use murder, it's technically not the right term. Homicide, though, is an appropriate term.


Offspring
Webster's
Main Entry: off·spring
Pronunciation: 'of-"spri[ng]
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural offspring also offsprings
Etymology: Middle English ofspring, from Old English, from of off + springan to spring
1 a : the progeny of an animal or plant : YOUNG b : CHILD
2 a : PRODUCT, RESULT b : OFFSHOOT 1a

Was this necessary? Yes, it's about the same as child, but it comes up a lot.


Organism
[quote="Webster's]Main Entry: or�gan�ism
Pronunciation: 'or-g&-"ni-z&m
Function: noun
1 : a complex structure of interdependent and subordinate elements whose relations and properties are largely determined by their function in the whole
2 : an individual constituted to carry on the activities of life by means of organs separate in function but mutually dependent : a living being
- or�gan�is�mic /"or-g&-'niz-mik/ also or�gan�is�mal /-m&l/ adjective
- or�gan�is�mi�cal�ly /-mi-k(&-)lE/ adverb
Is a fetus an organism? Well, it's not dead. And it's not inanimate. It has organs that work and keep it alive....it is human. Most importantly, it is a human life functioning with its own organs.

DCVI
Vice Captain


DCVI
Vice Captain

PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:58 am


Terminology Continued....


Person
Webster's
Main Entry: per·son
Pronunciation: 'p&r-s&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French persone, from Latin persona actor's mask, character in a play, person, probably from Etruscan phersu mask, from Greek prosOpa, plural of prosOpon face, mask -- more at PROSOPOPOEIA
1 : HUMAN, INDIVIDUAL -- sometimes used in combination especially by those who prefer to avoid man in compounds applicable to both sexes
2 : a character or part in or as if in a play : GUISE
3 a : one of the three modes of being in the Trinitarian Godhead as understood by Christians b : the unitary personality of Christ that unites the divine and human natures
4 a archaic : bodily appearance b : the body of a human being; also : the body and clothing
5 : the personality of a human being : SELF
6 : one (as a human being, a partnership, or a corporation) that is recognized by law as the subject of rights and duties
7 : reference of a segment of discourse to the speaker, to one spoken to, or to one spoken of as indicated by means of certain pronouns or in many languages by verb inflection
- per·son·hood /-"hud/ noun
- in person : in one's bodily presence

This one gets tricky. On the one hand, a fetus is a living human according to biology. On the other, it has no legal rights. Is it a person? In debate, no. We are not fighting for persons, legally. We are fighting to make sure they are treated as persons, legally.

Personhood is what people try to argue, but sentience (see below) can't really be proven or disproven. You can see a fetus as a person, but legally, a fetus is not a person. Except in Missouri
(Well it might be in more places, and that was in 1995....I just think it's an intersting read xd )


Placenta
Webster's
Main Entry: pla·cen·ta
Pronunciation: pl&-'sen-t&
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -centas or pla·cen·tae /-'sen-(")tE/
Etymology: New Latin, from Latin, flat cake, from Greek plakoenta, accusative of plakoeis, from plak-, plax flat surface -- more at FLUKE
1 : the vascular organ in mammals except monotremes and marsupials that unites the fetus to the maternal uterus and mediates its metabolic exchanges through a more or less intimate association of uterine mucosal with chorionic and usually allantoic tissues; also : an analogous organ in another animal
2 : a sporangium-bearing surface; especially : the part of the carpel bearing ovules
- pla·cen·tal /-'sen-t&l/ adjective or noun

Humans are placental mammals. We develop that way because we're built that way. Blame God. Or if you like evolution, blame reptiles, they started it.


Sentient
Webster's
Main Entry: sen�tient
Pronunciation: 'sen(t)-sh(E-)&nt, 'sen-tE-&nt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin sentient-, sentiens, present participle of sentire to perceive, feel
1 : responsive to or conscious of sense impressions
2 : AWARE
3 : finely sensitive in perception or feeling
- sen�tient�ly adverb

Well...this can't be definitively proven. In anyone who can't communicate on the same level that most humans do. If you gag me, you could poke me and any reaction to the painful stimuli can be put down as muscular reflex. If I can't say it hurts, you have no way to know. If I can't say I see something, you have no way to know.


Uterus
Webster's
Main Entry: uter·us
Pronunciation: 'yü-t&-r&s, 'yü-tr&s
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural uteri /'yü-t&-"rI/; also uter·us·es
Etymology: Latin, belly, womb; probably akin to Greek hoderos belly, Sanskrit udara
1 : an organ of the female mammal for containing and usually for nourishing the young during development previous to birth -- called also womb
2 : a structure in some lower animals analogous to the uterus in which eggs or young develop

It's where children live for the first 9 months of their lives...nice hotel. Room service is great. I think I'll be checking out now.


Viability
Webster's
Main Entry: vi·a·ble
Pronunciation: 'vI-&-b&l
Function: adjective
Etymology: French, from Middle French, from vie life, from Latin vita -- more at VITAL
1 : capable of living; especially : capable of surviving outside the mother's womb without artificial support
2 : capable of growing or developing
3 a : capable of working, functioning, or developing adequately b : capable of existence and development as an independent unit c (1) : having a reasonable chance of succeeding (2) : financially sustainable
- vi·a·bil·i·ty /"vI-&-'bi-l&-tE/ noun
- vi·a·bly /'vI-&-blE/ adverb

Not able to live outside the womb. Usually, 24 weeks is the earliest with humans.


Zygote
Webster's
Main Entry: zy·gote
Pronunciation: 'zI-"gOt
Function: noun
Etymology: Greek zygOtos yoked, from zygoun to join -- more at ZYGOMA
: a cell formed by the union of two gametes; broadly : the developing individual produced from such a cell
- zy·got·ic /zI-'gä-tik/ adjective

You all know that song. "And a zygote's not a kid." It's right. A zygote is a child. More in developemental thread...



If you have questions about these or there are any more that you think should be added, post here and I'll be sure to update.

If you'd like to shoot Lymelady for writing so much that the page stretched in a bad sort of funky way, please take a number.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:00 am


Originally posted by Lymelady:

Development in the Womb

Alright, so we know from looking around us that people exist. That is quite obvious. We know from experience that we are born from the wombs of our mothers. That is another thing that's obvious. Through technology, we can see that we begin developement from the moment of conception. Once more, obvious. But when does life start? Life comes from life, afterall. An egg is alive. A sperm is alive. So life begins either when the first organism appeared on earth, years ago. Whether you believe God did so 6,000 years ago, 6 trillion ears ago, or some Aliens had some fun, or a random sequence of events brought about the first life to ever exist, that is the sarting point of life.

New life as in life where there was none before is not what happens at conception.

What does happen is a new individual's life. That is something we can all agree on.

Whether or not you believe a sperm/egg is the same as a zygote in value and hold a more untilitarian view of humanity or you believe that a zygote is a living human being, this is an individual life, and that cannot be stressed enough (though I'll try my hardest to stress it xd ).

At conception, the sperm meets the egg without the benefit of those little, "Hi, my name is ____" nametags. The egg contains 23 chromosomes, just as the sperm does. When combined, they form a zygote with 46 chromosomes, in a sequence completely unique, save for the case of identical twins.

Now begns the life of a human individual. Unless resources are withheld for some reason, this zygote will eventually be a baby. For now, the human is in its embryonic stage.


Life's Journey



Day 1: Conception
An army of sperm battle fiercely to penetrate the evil zona pellucida, until finally one brave solider manages to thwart this infernal barrier surrounding the oocyte (egg, basically) and fuse with the egg. Eleven hours later, we find a newly formed zygote.

Day 2: Cell division starts, and all that jazz. This is called cleavage. Not the hooters kind. Cells need to divide in order for the zygote to grow.

Day 4-5: Zygote gets into a mulberry shape, giving it the name Morula. It travels through the fallopian tube and gets into the cavity in the uterus. A blastocele forms on the inside of the morula. Now begins the separation of the cells. The zona pellucida stays the same, but the inside changes. Here we have the distinction between cells on the inside and on the outside thanks to compaction. Here is where a blastocyst is born.

5-6 days: Viva la Embryo! Freedom from the zona pellucida, just in time for the blastocyst to implant itself in the endometrium (lining of the uterus. Rich in capillaries that will attach to the blastocyst in order for circulation to occur. Otherwise known as that junk that is expelled every 28 days. Let's none of us thank Eve for eating that apple).

7-12 days: Enter placenta, stage...well, the placenta is being formed. Connecting to both mother and child, this organ is essential in the growth of the embryo. The mother's blood will soon supply the embryo with essential nutrients and dispose of wastes.

Day 13: Gastrulation! Sounds like something you'd see on a Prilosec OTC commercial, right? This is where the three germ layers(endoderm, mesoderm, ectoderm) are formed.

Day 16: Notochord formation. Also we have germ layers still growing. Quoting visembryo,

"Endoderm that will form the lining of lungs, tongue, tonsils, urethra and associated glands, bladder and digestive tract.

Mesoderm that will form the muscles, bones, lymphatic tissue, spleen, blood cells, heart, lungs, and reproductive and excretory systems.

Ectoderm that will form the skin, nails, hair, lens of eye, lining of the internal and external ear, nose, sinuses, mouth, a**s, tooth enamel, pituitary gland, mammary glands, and all parts of the nervous system."

17-23 days: Blood vessels galore! Two primitive heart tubes form. They fuse together and the first heartbeat occurs between 21 and 23 days. This is only a precursor to true circulation, however; blood vessels are not fully formed. Neural folds are fusing along the neural tube. Things are shaping up, eh?

Day 24-29: The neural tube is closed. The developing brain and spinal cord combined are currently the biggest tissue. The brain is growing into three sections by now.

These are by no means the only developing organs. The digestive organs are starting to form, starting with the liver. The eyes and ears are forming by now, and the circulatory system is still growing.

Limb buds and a mouth are present at this point, as well as a thin layer of skin.

4-8 weeks: Nerves grow throughout the tiny body as the limbs get longer and structures come into being. A sense of smell and a four chambered heart can be found at 6 weeks; before that, an esophogus, lungs, kidneys...okay, I'll stop listing them and put it like this. It's all in development now. Urine is produced for the first time between 6-7 weeks. Brain waves and muscles are present by the end of week 7. Webbed fingers and toes are seen by the start of week 8. The tongue finishes developing and involuntary movements start. By the end of 8 weeks, the brain can control muscles, the heart has finished developement, the digits have separated. The clitoris is formed in females, but the same tissue will become a p***s for males. The tail is gone. The jaw is being formed. Our embryo graduates to fetus. Development isn't quite the right word anymore. Growth is more accurate.

8-10 weeks: Heart is almost completely developed. Fingerprints begin to appear. By ten weeks, a fetus is sensitive to touch and can suck its thumb. Facial follicles form, as well as the palate.

11-12 weeks: Urination is working just fine. Facial expressions start showing up. Practice with muscles is taking place; fetuses at 12 weeks can make fists, kick, and even practice breathing. They can also practice screaming. Oh joy. stare

STOP: AFTER THIS POINT ABORTION ISN'T ALWAYS LEGAL!
But isn't it sad that before this point, it is? "Most are aborted during the first trimester." I'll be sure to remember that if someone kills me now, it's alright, because I'm not fully grown yet. When I go through menopause, then it'll matter if someone kills me.

12-16 weeks: The fetus produces some of his or her own bile and insulin. Salivary glands=functioning from the very beginning of the month. Respiration and Digestion develop more. The spleen is making antibodies and removing old red blood cells. Sweat glands and body hair begins to grow...all this at 12-13 weeks. By the end, circulation is completely functional. Myelin coats nerve to protect them and speed transmissions.

16-20 weeks: By the middle of the the month, a temporary hair called lanugo grows in. The fetus has different periods of sleeping and being awake...and this early on, a fetus has a preference for a sleeping position. A female's uterus is completely developed, her ovaries contain egg cells that will become all the eggs she will ever produce. By the end of this month, eyebrows and scalp hair can be seen. Eyes blink more often, in males the testes shift to the scrotum, and the brain is growing rapidly. A fetus can respond to loud sounds, though its auditory senses are not fully up to snuff.

20-24 weeks: Sound is undeniably possible by now, as the hammer, anvil, and stirrup have hardened. Alveoli and blood vessels develop in the lungs. Eyes respond to light and permanent teeth buds appear.


STOP AGAIN. After this point, abortion isn't usually done. But again...isn't it kinda sad that it's done at all?

24-28 weeks: Brain waves resemble the brain waves of a born baby. Eyelashes are present. Lungs are able to breathe air if they need to. Breathing and temperature are regulated completely by the fetus's brain; red blood cells are produced completely by the fetus's bone marrow.

28-32 weeks: Iris is colored(though the permanent color requires light to be reached and won't be in until a few days after birth....unless of course that color is blue) and the fetus takes the "fetal position" due to the cramped space in the womb. Fingernails grow long enough to scratch, and an immune system develops.

32-36 weeks: The head turns towards the mother's pelvis. Nutrition is still obtained via the placenta; the gastroenterlogical system isn't very developed. It won't be mature for another three or four years. Bones continue hardening steadily.

36-40 weeks: Production of red blood cells is increased by the liver. The skull isn't fully solid; five bony plates still need to come together. Ever see a newborn with a funny shaped head? It'll round out in a few days, but this is done so the birth is easier and the brain remains unharmed. At birth, the child has about 300 bones. Later, some will fuse together (which is why adults only have 206). The nervous system is developed as much as that of a newborn....because week 40 usually means graduation from fetus to newborn baby. Tearducts still haven't developed in the eyes, but the vocal chords certainly are impressive.



This has only been a sum of information found in various places, which I will list below. I am not an embryologist. I take no credit for the work of making this information available, though I do take credit for the day spent compiling it for your convenience.

http://www.visembryo.com/baby/
http://pregnancy.about.com/od/fetus/ss/ninemonths.htm
http://pregnancy.about.com/od/fetus/
http://www.babycenter.com/fetaldevelopment/
http://www.howstuffworks.com/adam-200122.htm/printable
http://embryo.soad.umich.edu/carnStages/carnStages.html
http://cna.uc.edu/embryology/
https://www.highmarkblueshield.com/preg/9monthmiracle/tools/fetaltool.html





Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong on something; working on very little fuel.

Now, knowing all of that about development...

WHEN IS ABORTION LEGAL?

misangelitas
Abortion is always legal in all 50 states well after the first trimester. While it is true most abortions are done in the first trimester there are no restrictions on it in any state in the US until 23 weeks I believe. However 2nd trimester abortions must be done in hospitals rather than clinics.

While it is true the partial birth abortion ban did pass it is not being enforced as it is tied up in legislation since it only contains a "life" of the mother exception and not a "health" exception which could also include mental health and therefore a doctor could perform an abortion on a woman 9 months pregnant because she was depressed.

So abortion remains legal through all 9 months. Now finding a doctor who will do it after the point of viability on a perfectly health mother and fetus (usually said to be 24 weeks although babies as young as 20-21 weeks have survived) is another story although not impossible.


Thanks for the information!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:01 am


Originally posted by Beware the Jabberwock:

Thread can be found here if anyone would like to make further contributions.

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A job for any (or all) of the people in the guild who wish to do so. I'd like to have some reviews or overall opinions on some of the sites linked, so if any of you have been to one of those sites and gone "this is completely wrong" or "this site is fantasitc." now is your time to say it, and express why.

This makes things easier for people who are debating and need to grab some quick references, or people who are just learning and who want the best informative websites. I'll be doing some reviews of my own, so I'm not just shifting all of it onto you guys.


I just noticed that we didn't have a page for pro-life links and such, for anyone who needs them. If you have any you'd like to add, or any comments on any of the sites, post them in here.

Silent No More*^
Hope After Abortion
Just The Facts
Abortion is Deadlier than Childbirth^
Abortion Info
Abortion Facts*
Fetal Development
More Fetal Development**
Abortion Law
Overpopulation?
Overpopulation and People
Personal View
Rock For Life^
Life News**^
Safe Legal Abortion?
Society for the Protection of Unborn Children
Life
American Life League^**
Human Life International^
Priests for Life^
Abort 73**^
ProLife Victoria
Wikipedia**
The Logic of Slavery, the Logic of Abortion
The Free Market Case Against Abortion
The right to life and the restoration of the American republic
Life Before Birth
In The Womb
Fetal Psychology
Clinic Quotes
Baby Samuel
Bound4Life (Note: This is a prayer group for Christians)

* = Denotes a good websites
** = Denotes a great website
^ = Denotes a unique website, worth some attention.

Non-Conventional Pro-Life Groups

Feminists for Life *
Pagans for Life
Atheist and Agnostic Pro-Life League
Pro-Life Alliance of Gays and Lesbians
Libertarians for Life
Feminism and Non-Violence
Pro-Life Community
Pro-Choice=Poor Choice
Abortion Concern
Leftout
Seamless Garment Network
Democrats for Life


*Not only for females. Males are welcome as well.
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