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Searif Darkmoon

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:37 am


any good suggestions for me about books that would be found in a small town libary, I already searched around for crowley, did not find any of his stuff but I did find a book called "drawing down the moon" which is one womens book about how she started out just doing a artical for a newspaper and it led her to become a pagan herself after talking with over 200 pagans and wiccans, interesting book so far and it mentions another book called "the spiral dance".
PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 4:54 pm


Gwiniverere Rain, her web-site is www.Gothic-Rain.com, she wrote Confessions of a Teenage Witch, Spellcraft for Teens: A Magickal Guide to Writing and Casting Spells, and Moonbeams & Shooting Stars biggrin iscover Inner strength and Live Happier. More Spiritual life. Maria Kay Simms wrote The Witch's Circle and Arin Murphy-Hiscock wrote Solitary Wicca for Life A complete Guide to Mastering the Craft onYour Own

does that help at all?

Death-fire-Angel


Joshua_Ritter
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Dapper Genius

PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:16 pm


Nice little list. Also, can everyone do me a favor and post any books you put down in the Writing, books and Articles discussion sub-forum as well? I'd like... you know... it to have a purpose. sweatdrop
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 11:48 am


thanks for the list 3nodding ill be sure to check them out one im done with the one I have now.

ah, sorry bout that, did not see it, a mod can move it anytime they want

Searif Darkmoon


Starlock

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:24 pm


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any good suggestions for me about books that would be found in a small town libary, I already searched around for crowley, did not find any of his stuff but I did find a book called "drawing down the moon" which is one womens book about how she started out just doing a artical for a newspaper and it led her to become a pagan herself after talking with over 200 pagans and wiccans, interesting book so far and it mentions another book called "the spiral dance".


Okay... a bit confused... are you looking for stuff on NEOpaganism (that is, modern reconstruction of OLD PAGAN beliefs) or stuff on OLD Paganism (that is, the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, etc)????

On the NEO side of things... Adler's "Drawing Down the Moon" and Starhawk's "Spiral Dance" are absolute MUST READS. I suggest starting with Adler's book first, though there are more recent census studies that make aspects of the work a little bit dated. An excellent intro book is Joyce & River Higginsbotham's "Paganism: An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religion."

As for othe recommendations... are you looking to be more serious and scholarly or do you not give a crap what you read?
PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:46 pm


Starlock
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any good suggestions for me about books that would be found in a small town libary, I already searched around for crowley, did not find any of his stuff but I did find a book called "drawing down the moon" which is one womens book about how she started out just doing a artical for a newspaper and it led her to become a pagan herself after talking with over 200 pagans and wiccans, interesting book so far and it mentions another book called "the spiral dance".


Okay... a bit confused... are you looking for stuff on NEOpaganism (that is, modern reconstruction of OLD PAGAN beliefs) or stuff on OLD Paganism (that is, the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, etc)????

On the NEO side of things... Adler's "Drawing Down the Moon" and Starhawk's "Spiral Dance" are absolute MUST READS. I suggest starting with Adler's book first, though there are more recent census studies that make aspects of the work a little bit dated. An excellent intro book is Joyce & River Higginsbotham's "Paganism: An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religion."

As for othe recommendations... are you looking to be more serious and scholarly or do you not give a crap what you read?
well im already reading Adler's book, and I guess im going for old pagan since I am planning on worshipping egyptians... or is there a way I could do this and still be a neopagan?

Searif Darkmoon


Starlock

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 1:43 pm


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Starlock
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any good suggestions for me about books that would be found in a small town libary, I already searched around for crowley, did not find any of his stuff but I did find a book called "drawing down the moon" which is one womens book about how she started out just doing a artical for a newspaper and it led her to become a pagan herself after talking with over 200 pagans and wiccans, interesting book so far and it mentions another book called "the spiral dance".


Okay... a bit confused... are you looking for stuff on NEOpaganism (that is, modern reconstruction of OLD PAGAN beliefs) or stuff on OLD Paganism (that is, the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, etc)????

On the NEO side of things... Adler's "Drawing Down the Moon" and Starhawk's "Spiral Dance" are absolute MUST READS. I suggest starting with Adler's book first, though there are more recent census studies that make aspects of the work a little bit dated. An excellent intro book is Joyce & River Higginsbotham's "Paganism: An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religion."

As for othe recommendations... are you looking to be more serious and scholarly or do you not give a crap what you read?
well im already reading Adler's book, and I guess im going for old pagan since I am planning on worshipping egyptians... or is there a way I could do this and still be a neopagan?


Let me throw out some definitions since I tend to be fairly academic in my usage of the terms "Neopagan" and "Pagan." Most Neopagans drop the "neo" out in front which can cause some confusion if you're actually wanting to differentiate between the two.

Neopaganism = modern RECONSTRUCTIONS of ancient Pagan religions or, whose deity concepts may include pantheism, animism, and polytheism as well as have a strong focus on nature.

Paganism = old polytheistic, animistic, and pantheistic belief systems that may or may not exist in the present day. They are NOT reconstructionalist, which means that they have a continuous body of practitioners through time.

Examples of forms of Paganism which are dead and practiced now as reconstructions would include Hellenic recon, Egyptian recon, Norse recon, Celtic recon, and others. Examples of Paganism which have endured to the modern day which may or may not be "neo" (depending on whether or not the practitioner has an actual connection to the enduring practice via ethnicity or cultural heritage) include Shinto, Hinduism, and Chinese folk practice.

If you're looking specifically for Neopagan Egyptian Recon... there are some books out there on it but I have not read them and cannot vouch for their usefulness. What I would suggest is going the scholar's route. Read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and other translated writings from the era. Learn about how they used magic in their culture, etc.
PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:01 am


Starlock
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Starlock
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any good suggestions for me about books that would be found in a small town libary, I already searched around for crowley, did not find any of his stuff but I did find a book called "drawing down the moon" which is one womens book about how she started out just doing a artical for a newspaper and it led her to become a pagan herself after talking with over 200 pagans and wiccans, interesting book so far and it mentions another book called "the spiral dance".


Okay... a bit confused... are you looking for stuff on NEOpaganism (that is, modern reconstruction of OLD PAGAN beliefs) or stuff on OLD Paganism (that is, the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, etc)????

On the NEO side of things... Adler's "Drawing Down the Moon" and Starhawk's "Spiral Dance" are absolute MUST READS. I suggest starting with Adler's book first, though there are more recent census studies that make aspects of the work a little bit dated. An excellent intro book is Joyce & River Higginsbotham's "Paganism: An Introduction to Earth-Centered Religion."

As for othe recommendations... are you looking to be more serious and scholarly or do you not give a crap what you read?
well im already reading Adler's book, and I guess im going for old pagan since I am planning on worshipping egyptians... or is there a way I could do this and still be a neopagan?


Let me throw out some definitions since I tend to be fairly academic in my usage of the terms "Neopagan" and "Pagan." Most Neopagans drop the "neo" out in front which can cause some confusion if you're actually wanting to differentiate between the two.

Neopaganism = modern RECONSTRUCTIONS of ancient Pagan religions or, whose deity concepts may include pantheism, animism, and polytheism as well as have a strong focus on nature.

Paganism = old polytheistic, animistic, and pantheistic belief systems that may or may not exist in the present day. They are NOT reconstructionalist, which means that they have a continuous body of practitioners through time.

Examples of forms of Paganism which are dead and practiced now as reconstructions would include Hellenic recon, Egyptian recon, Norse recon, Celtic recon, and others. Examples of Paganism which have endured to the modern day which may or may not be "neo" (depending on whether or not the practitioner has an actual connection to the enduring practice via ethnicity or cultural heritage) include Shinto, Hinduism, and Chinese folk practice.

If you're looking specifically for Neopagan Egyptian Recon... there are some books out there on it but I have not read them and cannot vouch for their usefulness. What I would suggest is going the scholar's route. Read the Egyptian Book of the Dead and other translated writings from the era. Learn about how they used magic in their culture, etc.
ah, alright 3nodding thank you ever so much.

Searif Darkmoon


Death-fire-Angel

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:54 pm


oh yah.... you can go to any book store to find pegan and new age stuff....
or any new age store.... if you live in murrieta you can go to lady of the Lake.... sweatdrop
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:09 pm


I heart Egyptian studies. Although I am no expert, to say the least, I would advise that Egyptian deities usually like things within their cultural context. To clarify, although there is plenty of fudge room while learning, I would suggest reading up on deities you are interested in and how they were seen through the eyes of those who worshipped them. Books on ancient Egypt will be easy to find at your library so you won't have to buy book after book. Modern books on paganism will give you ideas on how we are trying to reconstruct this worship and styles of ritual you can incorporate.

My patron goddess is Isis, who is very gentle when teaching (most of the time) and approachable. If you are familiar with meditation try a technique or two focusing on the ideas you find in the reliable books about ancient egyptian worship.

I'll post a few books I have on it in the books section.

Andiela


Death-fire-Angel

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:57 pm


Andiela
I heart Egyptian studies. Although I am no expert, to say the least, I would advise that Egyptian deities usually like things within their cultural context. To clarify, although there is plenty of fudge room while learning, I would suggest reading up on deities you are interested in and how they were seen through the eyes of those who worshipped them. Books on ancient Egypt will be easy to find at your library so you won't have to buy book after book. Modern books on paganism will give you ideas on how we are trying to reconstruct this worship and styles of ritual you can incorporate.

My patron goddess is Isis, who is very gentle when teaching (most of the time) and approachable. If you are familiar with meditation try a technique or two focusing on the ideas you find in the reliable books about ancient egyptian worship.

I'll post a few books I have on it in the books section.

cool.... I might have to try that....... if I ever go to the library. lol. They have Egyption books and statues at Lady of the Lake.
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:47 am


Andiela
I heart Egyptian studies. Although I am no expert, to say the least, I would advise that Egyptian deities usually like things within their cultural context. To clarify, although there is plenty of fudge room while learning, I would suggest reading up on deities you are interested in and how they were seen through the eyes of those who worshipped them. Books on ancient Egypt will be easy to find at your library so you won't have to buy book after book. Modern books on paganism will give you ideas on how we are trying to reconstruct this worship and styles of ritual you can incorporate.

My patron goddess is Isis, who is very gentle when teaching (most of the time) and approachable. If you are familiar with meditation try a technique or two focusing on the ideas you find in the reliable books about ancient egyptian worship.

I'll post a few books I have on it in the books section.
well, one of the reasons for my fascination for egyptians is because of my brother, he actually reads myths of every culture but he would always tell me about the egyptians, why? maybe he knew I liked it or maybe he liked it more for himself then me, I will never know.. but I always had a fascination with imhotep and anubis, no reason why they just seem to interest me.

Searif Darkmoon


Andiela

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:22 pm


The myths are very colorful and easy to get you hooked, I agree! I too just feel that connection with the stories, couldn't tell ya what it is either.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:01 pm


3nodding

I must know though, is there a good website made by pagan about egyptian deities though? I always find that pagans make the most informitive websites, no reason why I just find that they do.

Searif Darkmoon


Starlock

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:07 am


General Stank
3nodding

I must know though, is there a good website made by pagan about egyptian deities though? I always find that pagans make the most informitive websites, no reason why I just find that they do.


I haven't come across one, but then, it hasn't been something I've looked for. There was this one site that had cute retellings of Egyptian creation mythology though. Let's see if I can find it real quick... aaah... found it.

--- http://www.egyptianmyths.net/section-deities.htm

Oh, and it doesn't have to be written by a Neopagan. It just has to be written by a scholar, preferably.
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