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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:19 pm
I downloaded last night a self-learning method of German, and though I still don't open it (it just entered my hard drive), I was thinking... those of you that have used a self-learning method, did you found them good or what?
In my case, if it doesn't turns out to be good at all, well, at least I didn't paid a s**t for that. 3nodding I also downloaded an Esperanto method, first because Esperanto is the world's easiest language, second because if you know Esperanto, you'll have an easier time learning more languages.
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Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:32 pm
I have tried Self-Education books in Japanese and it didn't work. BUT it also has to be considered that people learn differently. I cannot learn a langauge on my own, I need to be taught a language in a classroom. That's just the way I learn best.
These self-education programs and books, im sure, do help some people...just not me.
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:43 am
Well, I'm not much good at learning languages in the classroom - language lessons here don't seem to go far beyond what a tourist's phrasebook would tell you, which is fine if you just want to parrot the same phrases constantly and spend all your time in a foriegn country ordering coffee, telling people that your favourite colour is blue, and asking the way to the station.
On the other hand, if I try to learn a language grammar-first from books or web pages, I seem to make progress much more quickly. (Though I still tend to be a little lacking in vocabulary.)
So I guess I'm just the kind of person who's better at self-learning than normal learning...
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:46 am
Comrade_Pierce I have tried Self-Education books in Japanese and it didn't work. BUT it also has to be considered that people learn differently. I cannot learn a langauge on my own, I need to be taught a language in a classroom. That's just the way I learn best. These self-education programs and books, im sure, do help some people...just not me. it also depends what book you have....one book i recomend is Japanese in Mangaland. i think it does well. but you also hae to be comitted to what language your learning as well. I learned a fair amount from the books and such. but my biggest help was speaking practice
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:50 am
DavidGemmell Well, I'm not much good at learning languages in the classroom - language lessons here don't seem to go far beyond what a tourist's phrasebook would tell you, which is fine if you just want to parrot the same phrases constantly and spend all your time in a foriegn country ordering coffee, telling people that your favourite colour is blue, and asking the way to the station. On the other hand, if I try to learn a language grammar-first from books or web pages, I seem to make progress much more quickly. (Though I still tend to be a little lacking in vocabulary.) So I guess I'm just the kind of person who's better at self-learning than normal learning... guh..lucky...i usually have to be taught or hear the words and such. my grammar is so messed up i think thats my problem D:
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:18 pm
I think it's more the way you go about it than any fault of the programs. You can watch things in your new language, with your native language's subtitles if you want to hear them, books can do most of the rest..
It works pretty well for me, because I really immerse myself in a language. You just have to figure out what works best for you; vary your system from time to time 3nodding
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Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:24 pm
I learn different parts of a language diiferent ways. I learned how to read all of the kana and a lot of kanji on my own, but now I'm thinking I may need a teacher for grammar and spoken Japanese. I am completely self-taught on Latin when I usually need help with grammar. This time I didn't.
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Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:21 am
It depends on the language, really. My sister is currently learning german and she says it's goddamn hard, and she's attending a german class. So, I don't think it's the kind of language you can learn on your own.
But in general, I don't think those books / CDs work. I think the best way to learn a language on your own is to -Read books in thant language -Watch TV/movies in that language -Find yourself a friend / penpal with whom you can practice -Travel to a (whatever language)-speaking country -Study hard with the good old dictionary
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:42 pm
I think it can also depend on what book you use. I don't have the option of learning French in a classroom, because I'm home schooled. But I have a very structured book and CD set. It gives you specific tasks and time limmits so it's a lot like I'm actually learning in a classroom setting. I also listen to French radio stations (rapping in French...interesting) and hope it'll help me pick it up more.
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 9:46 pm
I'm having a lot of trouble learning Spanish, and we don't have a Spanish class at my school. I'm trying to learn some vocabulary and grammar from books, but verbally my Spanish is just terrible. At least the words aren't hard to figure out how to pronounce because the spelling shows exactly how it's pronounced, and I've got a couple of CDs trying to get down the accent, but I think I'd learn a lot better if I were in a classroom.
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:17 pm
it thoroughly depends on the person.personally i learn better and retain more information if i study a language on my own.rather than in a classroom.seeing as in a classroom you have distractions and i'm usually writing notes.xD.but aside from that the classroom does nothing for me really.but self study i can go at my own pace, i know where i need to strengthen,the parts that i need to work harder at, the parts i'm really good at.etc. not to mention you can self-study anywhere at any time.which makes it a lot more fun than sitting in the same room for a year or more, surrounded by people who always sound better than you do.xD.opinion of course.but anyway.For me i learn anything better through self-study *shrugs* it's just how my mind works.
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 2:02 pm
I learn better from other people, and then expanding on my own.
I have trouble getting the basics down without lessons and tests. Yet once the basics are learned, I tend to be able to teach myself.
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:38 pm
Nangya I learn better from other people, and then expanding on my own.
I have trouble getting the basics down without lessons and tests. Yet once the basics are learned, I tend to be able to teach myself. Yeah, ditto. I like to learn, and if I'm interested, that's good motivation, but it REALLY does help to have a deadline.. "The ultimate inspiration is the deadline" --who said that, anyway?
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Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 5:41 pm
Nangya I learn better from other people, and then expanding on my own.
I have trouble getting the basics down without lessons and tests. Yet once the basics are learned, I tend to be able to teach myself. I'm the other way round. I'm good at getting basic stuff like grammar myself, but eventually I get stuck.
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Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 10:01 pm
Hmm, the way I learn languages the most is by someone who speaks the language fluently (sp?) to me. Monkey see, monkey do! biggrin
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