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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:47 pm
If you respond to this post just let it be for corrections nothing else I'm knew to gaia but old to the game so put me on your friendlist if you want.
Many people have different opinions on who Cloud is but this is what is revealed if you unlock all the secret clips in the game. Hojo and Gasly were scientist experimenting with mako and Jenova cells to make the ultimate soldier his first experiment was Vincent a turk exposed to it. After this Vincent locks himself in the mansion basement seeing that he is no longer human. Hojo then mets Sephiroths mother Lucrecia when she's pregnant ( with Sephiroth) he injects her with the mako/Jenova chemicals which creates the ultimate soldier Sephiroth. In Hojos quest to create more ultimate soldiers he creates the creepy guys you see in the game with numbers they obey Sephiroth because they are like minions that owe gratitude to their master Cloud was a failed experiment nothing like Sephiroth but the truth was he was stronger. Zack Tifa's best friend is a soldier who was working with Sephiroth (he and Cloud were secretly best friends;Cloud sucked as a soldier) when Sephiroth discovers that he is actually very much like a fiend filled with Jenova cells he burns the city taking out both Zack and Tifa on his way out he takes out Cloud too but that is when Cloud and he become connected two halves meet. When the experiment was done too Cloud(he didn't take it well though he manages to survive it in disc 2) he became for some reason Sephiroths darkside ( yet he's the good guy brain buster) Cloud beats Sephiroth Tifa's master gets her out of there. Shinra took Zack and Cloud for more experimenting when they escaped Zack was shot to death while Cloud was left on the ground (he was a waste of time) because of the experimenting Cloud couldn't remember anything when he met Tifa she decided to use him as a replacement for Zack by telling him stories of Zack's past (but making Cloud think he was him) Cloud eventually finds out everybody fights THE END
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 1:06 pm
Youre so wrong that it hurts. Ill post up the truth as far as I have gotten in a new thread, cause this one is embarassing to Cloud.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:30 pm
Quote: If you respond to this post just let it be for corrections nothing else I'm knew to gaia but old to the game so put me on your friendlist if you want. Many people have different opinions on who Cloud is but this is what is revealed if you unlock all the secret clips in the game. Hojo was scientist experimenting with mako and Jenova cells to make the ultimate soldier his first experiment was Vincent the first soldier exposed to it. After this Vincent locks himself in the mansion basement seeing that he is no longer human. Hojo then marries Sephiroths mother ( don't remember her name right now) when she's pregnant ( with Sephiroth) he injects her with the mako/Jenova chemicals which creates the ultimate soldier Sephiroth. In Hojos quest to create more ultimate soldiers he creates the creepy guys you see in the game with numbers they obey Sephiroth because they are like minions that owe gratitude to their master Cloud was a failed experiment nothing like Sephiroth but the truth was he was stronger. Zack Tifa's best friend is a soldier who was working with Sephiroth (he and Cloud were secretly best friends;Cloud sucked as a soldier) when Sephiroth discovers that he is actually very much like a fiend filled with Jenova cells he goes mad taking out both Zack and Tifa on his way out he takes out Cloud too but that is when Cloud and he become connected two halves meet. Whent the experiment was done too Cloud he became for some reason Sephiroths darkside ( yet he's the good guy brain buster) Cloud beats Sephiroth some how revives Tifa and Zack but no one remembered. Shinra took Zack and Cloud for more experimenting when they escaped Zack was shot to death while Cloud was left on the ground (he was a waste of time) because of the experimenting Cloud couldn't remember anything when he met Tifa she decided to use him as a replacement for Zack by telling him stories of Zack's past (but making Cloud think he was him) Cloud eventually finds out everybody fights THE END Wow...where do I begin?
1. Hojo and Gast were the ones to begin the Jenova Project. Hojo didn't actually begin to use Reactor 12 as the Mako infusing Soldier plot thingy until after Sephiroth was born and a success. He wanted to create another perfect Soldier with the power that Sephiroth had, not necessarily to create another Sephiroth.
2. Vincent was never a Soldier, he was a Turk. And Hojo didn't do anything Mako related with him. [DoC]Spoilers.
3. Hojo never marries Lucrecia [that is Sephiroth's mother].
4. The Failed Sephiroth clones you find throughout the game are Hojo's Failed Experiments that failed to achieve the power and strength that Sephiroth had, now since he had gone missin...
5. Zack and Tifa had only met once and that was the day that Zack,Tifa, and Sephiroth all went to investigate that Nibelheim Reactor.
6. Cloud never made it into Soldier.
7. No Sephiroth doesnt go mad, he goes to the Shinra Mansion and learns about his origins by Gast's Project Notes. Then he burns down Nibelheim and goes to the Reactor to meet Jenova [his "mother].
8. Sephiroth and Cloud had different procedures done to them, they never had the same experiment performed on them. Cloud and Sephiroth really never were friends. It was Zack that was Sephiroth's friend. Cloud merely copied that thought as his own.
9. No one remembered, because A. It was such a horrid experience Tifa blocked it out of her memory. B. No one remembered as in the ppl in Nibelheim? That's because they're there because Shinra hired them to act like the Nibelheim Incident never happened.
10. Zangan, Tifa's Master saved her from the Reactor and took her to a doctor in Midgar. And Hojo took both Zack and Cloud down into the Shinra Mansion basement and placed them in Mako Pods.
11. No Cloud gets in that messed up way of his because on the way to Midgar Zack told him all about his adventures and Cloud was a giant sponge absorbing all that information, when Zack dies Cloud takes on his personallity.
12. When Cloud and Tifa meet up again in Midgar, Cloud recognizes her from Zack's Memories, thats where Tifa starts talking about Cloud from Nibelheim where they grew up. Tifa only met Zack once, Tifa reminds Cloud of HIS Past not Zacks.
I think that covers all your mistakes, does it not?
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:35 pm
Forgive me for errors I finished the game 2 years ago I accidentally pressed submit before I finished going through to make all the corrections I guess I'll have to play it for the 8th time
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:35 pm
Very good, Gre, very good.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:37 pm
Well it's good to know there are ppl out there on this forum that actually know this game forwards and backwards.
Soadshuyin, you're quite knowledgable, congratulations.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:39 pm
There is a cinema when Cloud is at the train station disoriented and Tifa finds him can someone clear up what happened their I really don't remember
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:41 pm
She found him, took him into her care because he was sick and disoriented, and asked him what had happened to him. Ill explain in detail in my next post in my Cloud Strife: His Life thread.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:42 pm
Yes..That is shortly after Zack's death.
Cloud recognizes Tifa, either by his own childhood memories or by Zacks. Tifa then begins to remind him all about their childhood etc etc, all the while Zack's memories about Soldier and all that take up Cloud's persona.
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 2:45 pm
Thanks for the info guess I should go through the game again to refresh my memory
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 3:30 pm
If Vincents in your party when u face Hojo he'll say a couple of words
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:01 pm
Ya. He gets pissed at Hojo for being the one that shouldve slept or something like that.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 5:34 pm
I never had the chance to play the game, however, I've read alot about it, and what you guys have posted explained alot to me. But what I really want to know is, you see...I've heard about the upcoming game that's all about Vincent *squeals and jumps up and down* VINCENT IS THE HOTTEST!!!!!!.
Gomen, but anyways, wasn't he in love with Lucrecia??. Because the video clips I've seen im amv's of this upcoming game is that Lucrecia was sealed in crystal like stone, and the picture I saw, she was like in a wedding dress....so then if Lucrecia was Sephiroth's mother.....how was she pregnant at the time with him when Hojo did that stuff to her I mean, by whom...or who was Sephiroth's Father if you will????.
gonk gonk sweatdrop I'M SOOOOOOOOOOO CONFUSED NOW!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. NEVERMIND!!!!!.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:47 pm
Makaira I never had the chance to play the game, however, I've read alot about it, and what you guys have posted explained alot to me. But what I really want to know is, you see...I've heard about the upcoming game that's all about Vincent *squeals and jumps up and down* VINCENT IS THE HOTTEST!!!!!!. Gomen, but anyways, wasn't he in love with Lucrecia??. Because the video clips I've seen im amv's of this upcoming game is that Lucrecia was sealed in crystal like stone, and the picture I saw, she was like in a wedding dress....so then if Lucrecia was Sephiroth's mother.....how was she pregnant at the time with him when Hojo did that stuff to her I mean, by whom...or who was Sephiroth's Father if you will????. gonk gonk sweatdrop I'M SOOOOOOOOOOO CONFUSED NOW!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. NEVERMIND!!!!!. Regardless of your nevermind, I will tell you that Sephiroths father is Hojo.
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:10 pm
Wow LordCetra u were off but that is ok. I too was a lil jacked up on the whole story till i bet the game a second time around. I'm more into looking at what Zack really is. I mean hes past. I have just seen new pics of Crisis Core. but that not what were are here to talk about now is it. *goes of to look for Crisis Core thread*
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