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Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:30 pm
We were selecting a form charity and it was between an animal charity or a cancer one, and my form teacher said, "people are more important than animals" i mean WTF!? scream how could he even THINK that? stressed They're are so many beautiful and strange animals on this world and we're killing them all cry , don't you think we should try and make an effort to try and set things right? sad And i know cancer research is important, i've lost friends and family and even a beloved pet is dying from it sad , buti really do think we should be helping the animals. I mean, when you think about it we're animals too, right? if we were endangered, wouldnt we want to be saved? confused In the end, the cancer charity won. but ill never stop fighting. SAVE THE TURTLES! domokun
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Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 9:51 am
would you choose to save an endangered animal over curing a close relative of cancer? I found your poll very hard to answer. In the end I decided that I would choose saving my mother of cancer over a species of near extinct frog. what i wanted to say was uh...mm...dunno My grandma is dying of Parkinsons. I think we might choose a cure for that over endangered species too. I am sure my mom would and she is vegetarian!! Out of context the question is one thing but put into perspective in a situation where one is personally affected, wouldn't everyone choose to protect their own?
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:42 am
thats very true. sad it makes me sad to know, i guess its easy to say youd save the animal over the person stare . but when its a person close to you... i guess people really would want to save their family. cry understandable. but i still fell sorry for the animals. crying
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Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 6:02 pm
Curing cancer will cost trillions of dollars, and treatment alone costs hundreds of thousands or millions if the disease is advanced.
Saving endangered species costs as little as $0....as much as a million.
I'd much rather save all the endangered species of the world than cure a disease that's preventable and treatable.
I'd also much rather end world hunger and homelessness than cure cancer.
Cancer is only one of the five leading causes of death in first world countries.
AIDS, malnutrition, and war are the main causes of death worldwide.
You end hunger and homelessness, malnutrition will disappear, and both AIDS and war would be greatly decreased, because much of war comes from those without home or food either revolting or being bullied.
Also there's this:
$1000 and some willing volunteers would easily be able to save any endangered species.
$1000 and some willing volunteers would only be able to pay for an hour or so of cancer research.
I'm not on the side of the animals because they deserve better than us, or because they're suffering more than cancer patients, I'm on the side of the animals because a little bit goes much further when it involves only some kindly nurturing, and when it doesn't involve twenty-first century science technology.
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Lord Thatlatu of the Tofu
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:29 am
why does it have to be an either/or proposition? i mean, i've already lost beloved relatives to cancer and i dont wanna lose anymore damnit.
biodiversity seems to be a necessity on this planet. forget cute and furry cuz thats a silly way to determine what is worthy. contributions to society or the planet, now thats a worthy form of determination.
neither should come at the expense of another.
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 7:09 pm
Lord Thatlatu of the Tofu Curing cancer will cost trillions of dollars, and treatment alone costs hundreds of thousands or millions if the disease is advanced. Saving endangered species costs as little as $0....as much as a million. I'd much rather save all the endangered species of the world than cure a disease that's preventable and treatable. I'd also much rather end world hunger and homelessness than cure cancer. Cancer is only one of the five leading causes of death in first world countries. AIDS, malnutrition, and war are the main causes of death worldwide. You end hunger and homelessness, malnutrition will disappear, and both AIDS and war would be greatly decreased, because much of war comes from those without home or food either revolting or being bullied. Also there's this: $1000 and some willing volunteers would easily be able to save any endangered species. $1000 and some willing volunteers would only be able to pay for an hour or so of cancer research. I'm not on the side of the animals because they deserve better than us, or because they're suffering more than cancer patients, I'm on the side of the animals because a little bit goes much further when it involves only some kindly nurturing, and when it doesn't involve twenty-first century science technology. I'd have to disagree with you on this one. Cancer, first of all, is neither able to be cured or prevented with current techniques. I had an uncle who came down with lung cancer and he had never smoked, drank, or used any carcinogenic product in his life. He went through all the typical treatments (chemotherapy, bone marrow transplants, etc.) and was lucky to survive. But the cancer could have taken him just as easily as he was rid of it. There is no foolproof cure or form of prevention when it comes to a disease such as cancer, as it is the body literally fighting a production of itself.
While in any general case in which I had to choose between human life and animal life, I'd choose human life. Those of you who pointed out that humans are animals, too - you're right. And as animals, it is our duty to ensure the survival of our species. If we're all dying from diseases, we won't be able to help the animals or reverse the damage we've done to our planet, will we? Then again, if we focus on studying and preserving the natural wonders around us, we may find many natural cures to seemingly incurable diseases. So, I guess in a general case I wouldn't know what to do.
But in the case of cancer... well, I think I'd spend the money on the cancer research. I think we'll be more likely to find a cure by studying the human body rather than questing for a miracle plant, as cancer starts in the human body. Know what I mean?
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Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 2:02 pm
I'm all for animal rights, believe me. But put into this position, of having to choose one or the other, I would choose helping the cancer victims.
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Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:04 am
I find this a very easy question to answer. It depends on the closeness of either to me. If my mom was dying of cancer, Id save her. If my bird was endangered, Id hold it close. When it comes to them generally, I go with what Thatlu said, but with a twist. Do what I can to help both. They are both very large problems, and neither can go unhelped. People are just animals. We are not some almighty godlike race of lordly beings who own animals. Likewise, if the countries sat together and discussed the cancer epidemic, and did VERY exstensive research on it, then we could find a cure, I'd wager. Either way, they are BOTH very important issues, and one cant say "******** the cancer patients, help the animals!" or "Lets all slaughter the animals, and save the cancer patients!" Lets work on BOTH smile
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Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 10:50 am
BOTH IS BEST! BOTH IS BEST! BOTH IS BEST!
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Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 11:05 am
Don't kill me for saying this, but... I think saving an endangered species would be better than finidng a cure for cancer.
Entire populations of animals are almost to extinction because of what humans have done. We started it, we have to fix it. It more than just not having anymore animals on the planet if they go extinct. The eco-system would be completely screwed up.
In nature, when a species is over-populated Mother Nature has a way of getting it back down to size. I think cancer is one of those ways. It is sad but, eventually everyone dies. Does it really matter how? Don't get me wrong I know exactly how difficult it is for people who have family members with cancer. My grandfather had lung cancer and he died. It was very sad, but no one can live forever. Maybe there won't ever be a cure for cancer. It's possible that there are somethings that just can't be cured. There are so many more problems in society, famine, war, oppression... I think putting a stop to those would be far more effective.
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:04 pm
keep in mind that many of the things that are giving folks cancer are also the same things killing many animal...industrial society is deadly to all life on this planet....so you could save alot of potential cancer patients and many many animals at the same time all you nned to do is destroy industrial production
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Posted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:38 pm
I'd rather help both of them! As much as I love animals, if I had to choose, I'd choose the cancer victims.
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Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2006 3:34 pm
Usually the efforts that help endangered species are the same ones that help the poor in the Third World. Therefore, I choose that.
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Posted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 6:46 am
Lord Thatlatu of the Tofu Curing cancer will cost trillions of dollars, and treatment alone costs hundreds of thousands or millions if the disease is advanced. Saving endangered species costs as little as $0....as much as a million. I'd much rather save all the endangered species of the world than cure a disease that's preventable and treatable. I'd also much rather end world hunger and homelessness than cure cancer. Cancer is only one of the five leading causes of death in first world countries. AIDS, malnutrition, and war are the main causes of death worldwide. You end hunger and homelessness, malnutrition will disappear, and both AIDS and war would be greatly decreased, because much of war comes from those without home or food either revolting or being bullied. Also there's this: $1000 and some willing volunteers would easily be able to save any endangered species. $1000 and some willing volunteers would only be able to pay for an hour or so of cancer research. I'm not on the side of the animals because they deserve better than us, or because they're suffering more than cancer patients, I'm on the side of the animals because a little bit goes much further when it involves only some kindly nurturing, and when it doesn't involve twenty-first century science technology. this is a really good point. but cancer was only an example i was generally talking about saving humans or saving animals. although as prople have pointed out, it is possible to do both. and i have pointed out that i know how it feels to lose someone close to cancer or another fatal disease, but that doesnt change my feelings on the subject. thanks for posting whee
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2006 12:21 am
i found ur poll very hard to answer. but for charity id pick the animals because cancer research gains the money they need but animals and i belive get way more little. death is natural, not wiping out an entire spicies when unnacicary
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