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Alright,
The purpose of discussion is also to appeal to the better senses of some inflationists.
One of the over-riding concerns is that in doing what they are doing they then push people away. In that end they are also hurting themselves. At times it is good to appeal to their interests to find some common ground.

The more oldbies quit due to disgust, the less items there are to play around in the market. Making it harder for them themselves to get items they want to get.

The less old items are in play, the less likely they will be able to get an old item beyond an OMG. In that end, they forget to think of the longer term.

Yes, conversations are always nice.
I do not mind talking to any one, it teaches me quite a few things and what to do next.

I can see the lure to inflationism... hell, I was on the border of becoming one for a while: I joined an AI guild, and hell, I even attempted to inflate the Reindeer Slippers a few months ago sweatdrop . And it's a deadly lure too -- a quick profit. You invest 10k and come out with 20k, or more. And who wants to stop doing something that makes them profits that are quick like that?

Now, there's the thinking amongst the deflationists that inflationism is a get-rich-quick scheme. Except it's not; it's the same logic as holding gambling contests. Sure, you profit from it and someone else is happy for a little while after they win... but that doesn't mean it's going to be successful. Same with inflation; you could easily screw up and cause the prices to drop, or cause a surge in the number of items being sold that far outweighs what you yourself can fund.

And buying and reselling items in itself isn't illegal; the loophole is that you're technically just buying yourself several copies of the items... and then deciding to sell it later at the 'next best price', which just happens to be higher than what you bought them for.

Also, there's an endless supply of new members and n00bs out there who, no matter what, once they have the funds for it they want their item and they want it NOW, and to hell with anybody who tells them to wait for prices to drop. What if prices don't drop? And so, they buy their items, all the while helping the inflationists even more.

Now, here's what saved my a** from being an inflationist; inflation became popular to do. We've all noticed that every single donation item has been methodically been inflated over the last 2-3 weeks. And here's the kicker; once inflation has hit every single item, then the entire point of inflating them just became moot. Why? Because the ratio between prices are exactly the same again. 2:10 is the exact same as 4:20. It just means that everyone, inflationists included, pay higher prices in the long run. The more items are deflated, the less gaia gold itself becomes worth.

This is also the reason why Sealed Letters are inflating so rapidly -- who in their right mind would sell a Sealed Letter while they can still get more for 2.5$ a pop at 6k, when the item will probably be inflated in a month or two for an easy 2 or 3 times as much profit?

Anyway, that's enough out of me for now XD. Take what I wrote with a grain of salt if you wish; after all, I still actively play the market by buying underpriced items and selling them at their normal price, which in itself defeats deflation and helps inflation. And I very well could even be completely wrong and just made the biggest 'a** of yourself' post ever. But that's my two cents.

hmm well gaia economy is becoming more and more complex to me i think.

I do agree about the part of ratio keeping the same and past nov03 items, the inflationist are having the same problem as they would have to pay more to get older items.


i guess i don't really care about gaia economy this much no more (since i don't really have the same interest in gaia no more XD)

well i think the only real victims are the newbie who wants to get the items. So i totally support people like Lexi, Delicate or winterslove smile that sells letters to those newbies.
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Though, my feeling about newbies have changed quite a bit.
Nowadays less and less newbies really want to do the effort to exchange.
From what i seen most of them all are like : hey i'm new! the items are so expensive but i want, give me! give me give me! crying
evil inflationist...evil rich people..etc...Etc...Etc.
All they do is to complain. I'm sure if they were less lazy and start to exchange (hey, selling off commons, gaining gold little by little is a good start!)

So to those who don't even want to do effort themselve, i won't feel any pity or anything to them. They don't makes me want to help them.

aah XD; i don't know what i'm saying no more lol sorry if my speech confuse you ^^
it's just, lately, gaia and real life tires me a lot
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I actually need some advice. I know that the high bidder on my vial of unknown liqiud is buying every vial on the market for 700, and then sellinjg them for 888. I am tempted to withdraw the sale, but I wouldn't know where to go from there. If I turn around and try to compete by selling it cheaper than him, he will just buy me out. And I can't in good conciousness turn around and sell my vial for the same inflated prices he aims for. But I don't want to contribute to his stock either.


Any advice?