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 Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 5:49 pm
does anybody know the abortion laws of japan? what is the best country abortion-wise? i've heard people saying stuff about finland, i think? where else? i would hope rome, hub of the catholic sect...
also, how could there be anybody with any religion to accept abortion as legit or acceptable? HOW the ******** would they intend to tell God why their time was worht more than life? they clearly manipulate religion so they can fit their agenda into it- as was done with slavery, the holocaust, the crusades, witch burnings...
also, how could a vegetarian not have the heart to eat animals, use their death for a purpose, but have the audacity to throw away a human life with no gain but convenience? what the ******** sort of mindset is that? what kind of blind moron could be both vegetarian and pro-choice?
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:06 pm
Because in their mind they have dehumanized it to less then a vegitable. Nothing but cells, nothign there. Not human, vegitable, or mineral, just nothing.
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:11 pm
but is it not still human? will it not be? how could anyone be so foolish as to avoid meat but kill ones own offspring? do they seriously THINK? seems like escapism to me, they just try to cover up the things the want but know are wrong by justifying it to themselves... "it's not real, it's not real, it's not real"
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:21 pm
divineseraph but is it not still human? will it not be? how could anyone be so foolish as to avoid meat but kill ones own offspring? do they seriously THINK? seems like escapism to me, they just try to cover up the things the want but know are wrong by justifying it to themselves... "it's not real, it's not real, it's not real" The answer coimes two fold. One as you have stated. They cove rit up by constently telign themselves over and over that its not real. Or they have so throughly convinced them selves that its not to the point where they actualy and honost to God beleive its not realy untill its out and breathing oxygen
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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 9:24 pm
divineseraph what kind of blind moron could be both vegetarian and pro-choice? I agree. That's why I am a pro-life vegetarian. VERY pro-life
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 3:53 am
Hmm I must comment the vegetarian one.
I'm vegetarian. [with the acception of sea food...but I rarely eat sea food anyway...] Alrighty, I'm Pro-Life. BUT I have a friend, she is the one who actually gave me the point of view of the vegetarians because she is one herself.
Later on I found out she was Pro-abortion. That completely threw me off the edge [not only that but she wears leather, so I'm starting to doubt her reasons for being vegetarian....] Then again, she tries to defend abortion because her mom had one. Though it is understandable that she would take her mom's side, but she forgets that the aborted baby was her brother or sister! She keeps making up excuses saying "well she was raped by her step brother] Well who knows if it was really rape, and also, you cant get birth defects from a brother who isn't blood related to you. So I cannot approve off that situation she is defending.
I get so pissed sometimes with that >.<
Then there are those people who are "Save the baby whales" but some are still pro-abortion / women's rights.
Dont you think it's skrewed up that We'd rather save the baby whales and kill our own babies?
Grr. I feel that pro-choice "vegetarians" aren't truely vegetarian.
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 4:13 am
The answer to the vegetarian one is easy. They're still pro-choice vegetarians, they don't think everyone has to be a vegetarian. Now people who are pro-abortion and vegetarian it's mainly because they've convinced themselves that the fetus isn't alive and if it is than it's not worth anything.
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:31 am
Yeah. I mean, Beware's a pro-choice vegetarian. She's not against any choices. Maybe against legal choices...
Seriously though I understand it sorta. It's about respecting intelligent life to them. They see feti as vegetables in the intelligence sense. Not that vegetables have brainwaves or anything...unless they do. I did as badly as a daisy on one intelligence test, according to my psych, but then on the other ones, I was above average. I guess I'm not a person according to one test gonk
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:32 am
divineseraph does anybody know the abortion laws of japan? what is the best country abortion-wise? i've heard people saying stuff about finland, i think? where else? i would hope rome, hub of the catholic sect... Still not here. I can pretty much guarantee that the Vatican has illegalized abortion, but Rome is part of Italy, it's not controlled by the Pope. Italy has legalized abortion up to 12 weeks. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark. sad
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Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 8:40 am
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Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 4:02 pm
Mother Teresa once stated that abortion is the beginning of war.
If you have absolutely no problem murdering your own children, you have absolutely no problem murdering anyone else. For any purpose, cause, or reasoning.
I suppose this is why I roll my eyes at the thought of a hippy-dippy/vegetarian/Christian/animal activist pro-choicer.
Putting the rest of the world before their own children, as opposed to Lifers who put their children before any other being or object in the world.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:37 am
Ebony the Peacian Vampire Mother Teresa once stated that abortion is the beginning of war.
If you have absolutely no problem murdering your own children, you have absolutely no problem murdering anyone else. For any purpose, cause, or reasoning.
I suppose this is why I roll my eyes at the thought of a hippy-dippy/vegetarian/Christian/animal activist pro-choicer.
Putting the rest of the world before their own children, as opposed to Lifers who put their children before any other being or object in the world. I agree.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:47 am
indeed... i'm not so sure abortion is the beginning though, but a sign of decay of the morality of the people... America seems kind of cold to me, really... basically, ouyr history was of rich white men who didn't want to pay taxes- they fought a WAR over taxes without representation. what do we have now? do we really have taxation with representation? we have no choice, pay or go to jail. after the rich brats, we decided we would like a nice slice of power- we jumped into WWII, and after decimating the japanese military power, we continued to bomb tokyo and other civilian cities- then we topped it off with two nukes aimed right at the center, to maximize casualties, of course. we wanted to scare as many people away as possible, like a wolf baring it's teeth over a kill. basically, we've pretty much always been cruel, careless assholes, as a nation. it doesn't really surprise me that folks see no prblem in slaughtering their young in those conditions. but that doesn't make it right.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:01 am
We didn't jump into WWII. We tried to stay out of it. Just like we tried to stay outta WWI. There was more of a problem in the public's mind with going into WWII than there was about going to Iraq or Vietnam. Maybe no one told you that Japan bombed us? I'm not proud of what we did, but don't pretend we jumped into the war. If you don't care that England repeatedly denies your requests for just one seat in parliment, fine. If you also don't mind them being able to station soldiers in your home without your permission, again, good for you. It was about more than taxes. Taxes were just the straw that broke the camel's back. We do have taxation with representation as much as the British did back in the 18th century, which is more than the Americans had in the 18th century. If you're going to talk about us being careless, talk about how FDR turned away a ship full of Jewish refugees during WWII (before we got into the war), talk about how Americans REFUSED to believe in the nazi death camps because it would be too inconvenient for us to lose our boys to a war just because of some people far off in another country. Talk about the Japanese internment camps. Talk about how selfish we've been. But abortion is the most widescale betrayal of our own people for the sake of making our lives easier. It's the first time we've turned against our own people and slaughtered them for our convenience. America's been selfish, but before 1973, it at least had its limits.
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Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:32 am
divineseraph indeed... i'm not so sure abortion is the beginning though, but a sign of decay of the morality of the people... America seems kind of cold to me, really... basically, ouyr history was of rich white men who didn't want to pay taxes- they fought a WAR over taxes without representation. what do we have now? do we really have taxation with representation? we have no choice, pay or go to jail. after the rich brats, we decided we would like a nice slice of power- we jumped into WWII, and after decimating the japanese military power, we continued to bomb tokyo and other civilian cities- then we topped it off with two nukes aimed right at the center, to maximize casualties, of course. we wanted to scare as many people away as possible, like a wolf baring it's teeth over a kill. basically, we've pretty much always been cruel, careless assholes, as a nation. it doesn't really surprise me that folks see no prblem in slaughtering their young in those conditions. but that doesn't make it right. We did not decimate their militery power, you've been lied to. The japanese EMporer and his militery leaders refused to surrender to the inevitable. We took out much of their forces on those islands, ands the retreated back to japan and raised a force of 1000 plains. Also, we did drop bombs on Hiroshima, and sent an ultimatum. Surrendor, or else. They refused to surrendor, so we droped another. But they wer enot civilian targets, though there were civilians in the area. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the two biggest miletary centers in Japan. And since they were bombed as such, and it was in the middle of a war, they can be concidered acts of cruelty and terrorism personly, but not politicly. The Japanese coudl have gone on to the last man, but when they saw what we were willing to use on them (yes, we were willign to drop mor eon them if we has to) they finally got the message and grudgingly surrenderd.
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