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 Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 12:23 pm
Just out of plain curiosity, what method of divination do you use? Please list and explain how to, as long as it is not a sworn secret of course! 
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:05 pm
llynnyia Just out of plain curiosity, what method of divination do you use? Please list and explain how to, as long as it is not a sworn secret of course! Hmm, well I figure if one is going to divine they can't get more direct than fire scrying: http://www.tsesitsones.cu.cc/firescrying.phpThen, there's also scrying the water which isn't too far away from working with tea leaves: http://www.tsesitsones.cu.cc/waterlocation.phpMainly I look into the fire of causation itself or empathetically intuit the flow things through the subtle waters. Now for most divinatory purposes I prefer the pendulum. Quartz or amethyst being preferred but a good metal or wood is also sufficient. Actually, I've been using my pentacle as a pendulum considering I don't have any others made up and can't seem to mind my very small one. This works out fairly well because my mood ring is also on that chain and so I hang the pentacle from my index finger, in the "blessing" or consecratory position. The pentacle doesn't come to a point but it is mediating and can be infused with he dynamic of a working so I can be aware of how things are manifesting. Then of course there is divining to find something such as dowsing for water. there's a number of tools I can and do use for that whaen I'm trying to find a certain herb, wood or ley of the land. Lastly there's Tarot which I don't normally use for mere divination but have been using more-so lately for that purpose as has been needed.
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Posted: Thu May 08, 2014 3:42 pm
Though I use different methods of divination based on what I am trying to find out. I particularly like using a combination that I picked up from one of my earlier teachers.
Floating candle divination! Not a joke it works very well actually.
It combines flame or fire divination with still water divination ( vs running water/ pouring water)
Find some nice floating candles and a large shallow container, large enough for at least three candles representing past present future. The container must be a circular one and be deep enough for the candles to float around freely.
- Handmade being best but if purchased silver platters work well you can find silver plated ones at hospices and estate sales. I just use a hammer to make them a little deeper allowing the floating candles to move freely. Wooden bowls also work very nicely finishing the elemental balance (candle -fire, water-water, wood-earth and air- your breath.)
- I have been also known to use a silver or wooden spoon to stir in salt to increase the clarity of the vision. earthwise (clockwise) of course. There are occasions I have needed to go back in time farther then what I was seeing and have stirred in the opposite direction asking for that . It was what felt like the right thing to do and it worked so ... this is how traditions and practices change by finding things that work.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:40 am
llynnyia Though I use different methods of divination based on what I am trying to find out. I particularly like using a combination that I picked up from one of my earlier teachers. Floating candle divination! Not a joke it works very well actually. It combines flame or fire divination with still water divination ( vs running water/ pouring water) Find some nice floating candles and a large shallow container, large enough for at least three candles representing past present future. The container must be a circular one and be deep enough for the candles to float around freely. - Handmade being best but if purchased silver platters work well you can find silver plated ones at hospices and estate sales. I just use a hammer to make them a little deeper allowing the floating candles to move freely. Wooden bowls also work very nicely finishing the elemental balance (candle -fire, water-water, wood-earth and air- your breath.) - I have been also known to use a silver or wooden spoon to stir in salt to increase the clarity of the vision. earthwise (clockwise) of course. There are occasions I have needed to go back in time farther then what I was seeing and have stirred in the opposite direction asking for that . It was what felt like the right thing to do and it worked so ... this is how traditions and practices change by finding things that work. Oh that's a wonderful method, and one I'll use in meditation workshops and events I'll do once in a great while. While there's allot you can do with a water-candle meditation on a more advanced level, normally I include it so that if they get weary focusing on the candle they can switch to the water. Also if you get it just right sometimes you get lucky and get to scry the wax in the water afterwards if you can get the wax to overflow without sinking the candle. It also aids in intuitive awareness helping them to soften volition while at the same time have more control over emotions. The water is also a great transition from a fixed outward gaze on the fire to closing the eyes and looking inward. It really helps cut down on the restlessness first timers are likely to experience. I'll also have stone stones around and burn some sage (either incense or bundle) and there you have it... a small meditation rite with all the elements, and you can even cast circle if you wish. I always stir my tea deosil btw, unless I need to cool it down. :p
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 11:45 am
DracoJesi llynnyia Though I use different methods of divination based on what I am trying to find out. I particularly like using a combination that I picked up from one of my earlier teachers. Floating candle divination! Not a joke it works very well actually. It combines flame or fire divination with still water divination ( vs running water/ pouring water) Find some nice floating candles and a large shallow container, large enough for at least three candles representing past present future. The container must be a circular one and be deep enough for the candles to float around freely. - Handmade being best but if purchased silver platters work well you can find silver plated ones at hospices and estate sales. I just use a hammer to make them a little deeper allowing the floating candles to move freely. Wooden bowls also work very nicely finishing the elemental balance (candle -fire, water-water, wood-earth and air- your breath.) - I have been also known to use a silver or wooden spoon to stir in salt to increase the clarity of the vision. earthwise (clockwise) of course. There are occasions I have needed to go back in time farther then what I was seeing and have stirred in the opposite direction asking for that . It was what felt like the right thing to do and it worked so ... this is how traditions and practices change by finding things that work. Oh that's a wonderful method, and one I'll use in meditation workshops and events I'll do once in a great while. While there's allot you can do with a water-candle meditation on a more advanced level, normally I include it so that if they get weary focusing on the candle they can switch to the water. Also if you get it just right sometimes you get lucky and get to scry the wax in the water afterwards if you can get the wax to overflow without sinking the candle. It also aids in intuitive awareness helping them to soften volition while at the same time have more control over emotions. The water is also a great transition from a fixed outward gaze on the fire to closing the eyes and looking inward. It really helps cut down on the restlessness first timers are likely to experience. I'll also have stone stones around and burn some sage (either incense or bundle) and there you have it... a small meditation rite with all the elements, and you can even cast circle if you wish. I always stir my tea deosil btw, unless I need to cool it down. :p Thank you I am glad I could contribute!
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:21 pm
llynnyia DracoJesi llynnyia Though I use different methods of divination based on what I am trying to find out. I particularly like using a combination that I picked up from one of my earlier teachers. Floating candle divination! Not a joke it works very well actually. It combines flame or fire divination with still water divination ( vs running water/ pouring water) Find some nice floating candles and a large shallow container, large enough for at least three candles representing past present future. The container must be a circular one and be deep enough for the candles to float around freely. - Handmade being best but if purchased silver platters work well you can find silver plated ones at hospices and estate sales. I just use a hammer to make them a little deeper allowing the floating candles to move freely. Wooden bowls also work very nicely finishing the elemental balance (candle -fire, water-water, wood-earth and air- your breath.) - I have been also known to use a silver or wooden spoon to stir in salt to increase the clarity of the vision. earthwise (clockwise) of course. There are occasions I have needed to go back in time farther then what I was seeing and have stirred in the opposite direction asking for that . It was what felt like the right thing to do and it worked so ... this is how traditions and practices change by finding things that work. Oh that's a wonderful method, and one I'll use in meditation workshops and events I'll do once in a great while. While there's allot you can do with a water-candle meditation on a more advanced level, normally I include it so that if they get weary focusing on the candle they can switch to the water. Also if you get it just right sometimes you get lucky and get to scry the wax in the water afterwards if you can get the wax to overflow without sinking the candle. It also aids in intuitive awareness helping them to soften volition while at the same time have more control over emotions. The water is also a great transition from a fixed outward gaze on the fire to closing the eyes and looking inward. It really helps cut down on the restlessness first timers are likely to experience. I'll also have stone stones around and burn some sage (either incense or bundle) and there you have it... a small meditation rite with all the elements, and you can even cast circle if you wish. I always stir my tea deosil btw, unless I need to cool it down. :p Thank you I am glad I could contribute! We also have a bunch of signs, omens etc. for predicting the whether, the arrival of visitors and so forth but nothing specific... just divination through observation.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:35 pm
DracoJesi llynnyia DracoJesi llynnyia Though I use different methods of divination based on what I am trying to find out. I particularly like using a combination that I picked up from one of my earlier teachers. Floating candle divination! Not a joke it works very well actually. It combines flame or fire divination with still water divination ( vs running water/ pouring water) Find some nice floating candles and a large shallow container, large enough for at least three candles representing past present future. The container must be a circular one and be deep enough for the candles to float around freely. - Handmade being best but if purchased silver platters work well you can find silver plated ones at hospices and estate sales. I just use a hammer to make them a little deeper allowing the floating candles to move freely. Wooden bowls also work very nicely finishing the elemental balance (candle -fire, water-water, wood-earth and air- your breath.) - I have been also known to use a silver or wooden spoon to stir in salt to increase the clarity of the vision. earthwise (clockwise) of course. There are occasions I have needed to go back in time farther then what I was seeing and have stirred in the opposite direction asking for that . It was what felt like the right thing to do and it worked so ... this is how traditions and practices change by finding things that work. Oh that's a wonderful method, and one I'll use in meditation workshops and events I'll do once in a great while. While there's allot you can do with a water-candle meditation on a more advanced level, normally I include it so that if they get weary focusing on the candle they can switch to the water. Also if you get it just right sometimes you get lucky and get to scry the wax in the water afterwards if you can get the wax to overflow without sinking the candle. It also aids in intuitive awareness helping them to soften volition while at the same time have more control over emotions. The water is also a great transition from a fixed outward gaze on the fire to closing the eyes and looking inward. It really helps cut down on the restlessness first timers are likely to experience. I'll also have stone stones around and burn some sage (either incense or bundle) and there you have it... a small meditation rite with all the elements, and you can even cast circle if you wish. I always stir my tea deosil btw, unless I need to cool it down. :p Thank you I am glad I could contribute! We also have a bunch of signs, omens etc. for predicting the whether, the arrival of visitors and so forth but nothing specific... just divination through observation. yes wise wisdom , casual observance. something falling with no reason, visitors or a bad phone call to come. ants building up the mound rain - science has vindicated this one! two pennies sticking together - good money to come ect.
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Posted: Fri May 09, 2014 12:47 pm
llynnyia DracoJesi llynnyia DracoJesi llynnyia Though I use different methods of divination based on what I am trying to find out. I particularly like using a combination that I picked up from one of my earlier teachers. Floating candle divination! Not a joke it works very well actually. It combines flame or fire divination with still water divination ( vs running water/ pouring water) Find some nice floating candles and a large shallow container, large enough for at least three candles representing past present future. The container must be a circular one and be deep enough for the candles to float around freely. - Handmade being best but if purchased silver platters work well you can find silver plated ones at hospices and estate sales. I just use a hammer to make them a little deeper allowing the floating candles to move freely. Wooden bowls also work very nicely finishing the elemental balance (candle -fire, water-water, wood-earth and air- your breath.) - I have been also known to use a silver or wooden spoon to stir in salt to increase the clarity of the vision. earthwise (clockwise) of course. There are occasions I have needed to go back in time farther then what I was seeing and have stirred in the opposite direction asking for that . It was what felt like the right thing to do and it worked so ... this is how traditions and practices change by finding things that work. Oh that's a wonderful method, and one I'll use in meditation workshops and events I'll do once in a great while. While there's allot you can do with a water-candle meditation on a more advanced level, normally I include it so that if they get weary focusing on the candle they can switch to the water. Also if you get it just right sometimes you get lucky and get to scry the wax in the water afterwards if you can get the wax to overflow without sinking the candle. It also aids in intuitive awareness helping them to soften volition while at the same time have more control over emotions. The water is also a great transition from a fixed outward gaze on the fire to closing the eyes and looking inward. It really helps cut down on the restlessness first timers are likely to experience. I'll also have stone stones around and burn some sage (either incense or bundle) and there you have it... a small meditation rite with all the elements, and you can even cast circle if you wish. I always stir my tea deosil btw, unless I need to cool it down. :p Thank you I am glad I could contribute! We also have a bunch of signs, omens etc. for predicting the whether, the arrival of visitors and so forth but nothing specific... just divination through observation. yes wise wisdom , casual observance. something falling with no reason, visitors or a bad phone call to come. ants building up the mound rain - science has vindicated this one! two pennies sticking together - good money to come ect. Yep, that sort of thing. Left hand itches - will receive Right hand itches - will give
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 6:14 am
I love using Tarot cards, something about using them always attracts me.
I've even had visions before, but I sometimes fail to remember them until the moment they happen. sweatdrop
Never have I tried a scrying mirror, nor a crystal ball. I should really expand my horizons in divination...
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Posted: Tue May 13, 2014 9:01 am
CarumSarene I love using Tarot cards, something about using them always attracts me. I've even had visions before, but I sometimes fail to remember them until the moment they happen. sweatdrop Never have I tried a scrying mirror, nor a crystal ball. I should really expand my horizons in divination... Tarot is my preferred method for problem solving making hard decisions.
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:26 pm
llynnyia CarumSarene I love using Tarot cards, something about using them always attracts me. I've even had visions before, but I sometimes fail to remember them until the moment they happen. sweatdrop Never have I tried a scrying mirror, nor a crystal ball. I should really expand my horizons in divination... Tarot is my preferred method for problem solving making hard decisions. When it comes to making hard decisions everything I've learned I've learned from Star Trek ,well, not everything....
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:04 pm
I do a bit of Tarot, but when it comes to particularly big or hard decisions, I tend to favor more traditional (to my practice) forms. Konane is one I use when I need a very clear, solid yes-no answer.
In old Hawai'i Konane was used to settle everything from very small matters to major land disputes. It's a game sort of like checkers and symbolically represents a battle. The idea is that the Gods will interfere so that the person in the right comes out the winner. When used by a single-player for divination, on set of pieces is declared the yes-set, the other represents a no. Alternatively the sets can represent any two options, the winning set being the answer.
Note that Konane can be played for fun as well. There's a certain procedure you have to go through to use the game for divination purposes.
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Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:48 pm
GeekWhistle I do a bit of Tarot, but when it comes to particularly big or hard decisions, I tend to favor more traditional (to my practice) forms. Konane is one I use when I need a very clear, solid yes-no answer. In old Hawai'i Konane was used to settle everything from very small matters to major land disputes. It's a game sort of like checkers and symbolically represents a battle. The idea is that the Gods will interfere so that the person in the right comes out the winner. When used by a single-player for divination, on set of pieces is declared the yes-set, the other represents a no. Alternatively the sets can represent any two options, the winning set being the answer. Note that Konane can be played for fun as well. There's a certain procedure you have to go through to use the game for divination purposes. Hmm, have you ever heard of Enochian chess? http://enochian.net/
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 7:53 pm
DracoJesi GeekWhistle I do a bit of Tarot, but when it comes to particularly big or hard decisions, I tend to favor more traditional (to my practice) forms. Konane is one I use when I need a very clear, solid yes-no answer. In old Hawai'i Konane was used to settle everything from very small matters to major land disputes. It's a game sort of like checkers and symbolically represents a battle. The idea is that the Gods will interfere so that the person in the right comes out the winner. When used by a single-player for divination, on set of pieces is declared the yes-set, the other represents a no. Alternatively the sets can represent any two options, the winning set being the answer. Note that Konane can be played for fun as well. There's a certain procedure you have to go through to use the game for divination purposes. Hmm, have you ever heard of Enochian chess? http://enochian.net/ No, I haven't. Looks interesting though. Does it work by roughly the same idea as what I was describing? I mean I imagine there's some key differences just by looking at it. But I've never heard of Enochian chess before now. I'm a bit curious now that you mention it though. Off-hand I have to say I like the detailing on the board and the pieces. Konane is not nearly that colorful. Modern boards are usually wood and might have some detailing on the board, but the pieces have remained fairly simple in design. Mainly because one uses either a set of black stones and a set of white, or two sets of shells with a significant color or design difference. My personal Konane set uses shells because of a personal significance. Incidentally do the pieces in a one's Enochian chess set have any personal meaning or is the design fairly standard?
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Posted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:33 pm
GeekWhistle DracoJesi GeekWhistle I do a bit of Tarot, but when it comes to particularly big or hard decisions, I tend to favor more traditional (to my practice) forms. Konane is one I use when I need a very clear, solid yes-no answer. In old Hawai'i Konane was used to settle everything from very small matters to major land disputes. It's a game sort of like checkers and symbolically represents a battle. The idea is that the Gods will interfere so that the person in the right comes out the winner. When used by a single-player for divination, on set of pieces is declared the yes-set, the other represents a no. Alternatively the sets can represent any two options, the winning set being the answer. Note that Konane can be played for fun as well. There's a certain procedure you have to go through to use the game for divination purposes. Hmm, have you ever heard of Enochian chess? http://enochian.net/ No, I haven't. Looks interesting though. Does it work by roughly the same idea as what I was describing? I mean I imagine there's some key differences just by looking at it. But I've never heard of Enochian chess before now. I'm a bit curious now that you mention it though. Off-hand I have to say I like the detailing on the board and the pieces. Konane is not nearly that colorful. Modern boards are usually wood and might have some detailing on the board, but the pieces have remained fairly simple in design. Mainly because one uses either a set of black stones and a set of white, or two sets of shells with a significant color or design difference. My personal Konane set uses shells because of a personal significance. Incidentally do the pieces in a one's Enochian chess set have any personal meaning or is the design fairly standard? The pieces represent various god-forms. You do an invocation for each piece and they represent that god-force, so the gods are with you during the game. I wouldn't say the help you win so much give you the means to win. you have to meet them half way and learn to to properly use those agencies that they give you. The person who can properly apply these forces, wins . This comes from an Order known as the Golden Dawn. They are known for being...colorful. The board represents the mixing of elemental forces. Air - Yellow Fire- Red Water- Blue Earth - Black One player per element or two players commanding two kingdoms. http://www.chessvariants.org/historic.dir/enochian.html
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