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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:09 pm
Now, a universal rule in every guild is that a guild owner should not make him/herself a champion and that other crew members end each other's matches.
Now, I was thinking about crew members as champions. Some people would call it politics and whatnot, but what happens when your crew (talking about VCs and below) are more active than your members and earn their shots like everyone else? How do y'all feel about crew as champions in your guilds?
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:24 pm
I say there's nothing wrong with this, so long as they have clearly earned their shot. Of course, they'd end up being held to a higher standard afterwards, just to make reaffirm the fact that their spot was truly earned.
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:33 pm
I'm fifty fifty on this
My thoughts is that a crew member shouldn't hold all the gold or the vast majority of titles. If they hold a title, they shouldn't hold any other title unless they win it from something like activity, and it be dropped later on.
I also think that all the crew members shouldn't hold all the titles The crew may be more active but chances are there are a few 'active' people in the guild that can hold said title They may not be 'championship' material, but if they'are active and willing to learn why not give them a run?
If you're booking, you shouldn't be put in a position to hold a title. You're in a position of power over the entire roster. That's enough of a 'title' However, if all the crew members agree and you want to do it for 'shock' value than it's acceptable.
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:33 pm
Veldrin the Shadow I say there's nothing wrong with this, so long as they have clearly earned their shot. Of course, they'd end up being held to a higher standard afterwards, just to make reaffirm the fact that their spot was truly earned. I agree, but if you can be counted on to be active in each cycle and you're more active than the members, then you surely deserve your spot. Sure, there are going to be those who just want an excuse to say that the guild owner is politicking, but that's just because they probably don't like that person. That's just me, though. I'd like to be a guild owner again, because I would base awarding titles and wins based on who was more active in matches. To me, activity counts when awarding titles.
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:53 pm
As long as their character earned it, they can have a title, crew or captain status regardless.
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:27 pm
I don't have any problem with a crewmember being champion as long as he deserves it and as long as it brings some story development as well. It's your duty not as a crewmember, but as a RPer, to have people to think "he's an interesting champion" and forget that the character is handled by a crewmember.
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:34 pm
Yukari Clepsydra I'm fifty fifty on this My thoughts is that a crew member shouldn't hold all the gold or the vast majority of titles. If they hold a title, they shouldn't hold any other title unless they win it from something like activity, and it be dropped later on. I also think that all the crew members shouldn't hold all the titles The crew may be more active but chances are there are a few 'active' people in the guild that can hold said title They may not be 'championship' material, but if they'are active and willing to learn why not give them a run? If you're booking, you shouldn't be put in a position to hold a title. You're in a position of power over the entire roster. That's enough of a 'title' However, if all the crew members agree and you want to do it for 'shock' value than it's acceptable. I agree, a booker should never hold a belt. If they RP in their own guild, it should be for storyline purposes that don't involve championships and for the good of the guild as a whole. It's like I said, activity should count when awarding wins. And in title matches, it should be no different, no matter what status you hold.
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Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:55 pm
I do not care if you're the captain or booker. If you produce good work and are proven to be not biased, you can hold the title in your guild for the good of story.
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:24 am
ProtoWolf 2.0 I do not care if you're the captain or booker. If you produce good work and are proven to be not biased, you can hold the title in your guild for the good of story. I think it's safe to say the following, 'It's your guild do with it what you want' However, I think at the same time. I think 9 times out of 10 a captain/booker shouldn't hold a title in a guild especially a major title. Minor titles, tag titles are fine. But a Major title I think is the exception to this. I mean yes there's the whole 'good work, good storyline' etc, etc. But more often than not having a booker/captain as the major title holder is a bit of a turn off because immediately one is going to assume that person is biased, regardless of said person. It's like me for example. Not to toot my own horn or anything but I think I produce good work every now and again Now imagine if I were to put myself in the Legendary title picture and win the whole thing. Simply because 'Haha my guild my rules, eat a d**k mother ******** the end of the day I can make an amazing story as to why I did it Point remains it happened, and it'll be off putting regardless of whatever is posted Because I took that chance from everyone that was hyped up about it only for them to be slapped in the face. Same with anyone else if they did it.
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:54 am
If the person is crew and has earnt it then by all means they deserve to hold the title.
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 7:43 am
Damijin Spade Yukari Clepsydra I'm fifty fifty on this My thoughts is that a crew member shouldn't hold all the gold or the vast majority of titles. If they hold a title, they shouldn't hold any other title unless they win it from something like activity, and it be dropped later on. I also think that all the crew members shouldn't hold all the titles The crew may be more active but chances are there are a few 'active' people in the guild that can hold said title They may not be 'championship' material, but if they'are active and willing to learn why not give them a run? If you're booking, you shouldn't be put in a position to hold a title. You're in a position of power over the entire roster. That's enough of a 'title' However, if all the crew members agree and you want to do it for 'shock' value than it's acceptable. I agree, a booker should never hold a belt. If they RP in their own guild, it should be for storyline purposes that don't involve championships and for the good of the guild as a whole. It's like I said, activity should count when awarding wins. And in title matches, it should be no different, no matter what status you hold. When I was running guilds, there would be one reason why I would hold a title: inactivity. If the champion was to be absent for too long as well as the contenders, if it hurts the product too much, then I would jump in. Or even if it's just to boost their activity by doing more promos and do something interesting with them, which would encourage them to do the same afterwards, then my job was done and I wouldn't need to be champion. And even there, my characters would be a last resort solution.
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:25 am
i have personally never held a title in my own guild while i was booking it. i have held titles in guilds i own, such as XCW, however, Drunko, the original owner, was the booker and owner at the time that I held them. When i took over, I handed the Drako/Brandon character to my brother so that I would not be the one actually holding my own titles. i allowed reals and i would control those, to help in the cruiser division especially, as well as the tag. now, i will never hold a title in DHW because I won't allow anyone else to book it.
Crew holding titles is fine with me because I book, not my crew (just for those who have been wondering). Crew may post cards, cards which I made. They may end a match that does not involve them if i can't decide on it or can't get online at the moment to do it myself. If i am not online and an issue springs up, they are expected to handle it.
however, if the issue involves their match it will wait until i get online to handle it. I end all crew matches especially. Generally speaking, I handle all aspects of booking and on occasion ask their opinion. Currently, two of my crew are putting their all into DHW, and have been rewarded because of it. The two hold tag titles, no other titles. Is one about to challenge for the top title? possibly. Depends on who wins a certain match. But their spots are earned based on activity and effort.
i am working in DHW myself because Schevia asked me to and it doesn't involve a title. It involves a story and frankly Schevia came up with a story I've never done before. I will compete outside of that in the build up to the story at least once or twice. In the event the match doesn't end by the end of whatever cycle, one of the crew will end my match without input from me so that there's no potential bias
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 8:32 am
It depends on what crew members are (and if) assigned to do. If they're just doing archiving and helping out with card creation, I wouldn't care too much.
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:15 am
I understand what most people would think, and I understand why most people feel the way they do. Although the legendary title situation would be a little unique since you've clearly laid out rules on what it takes to win, so it's not like you're booking a winner yourself, but in a normal situation, yes I get that. I'm just saying that I wouldn't limit a character in a guild if he can be used in a story, no matter who plays it. If the guild captain's character is in a feud with the champion, of course he has a chance of winning the title. If the rules said he couldn't hold the title, what was the point in the story in the first place if he never had a chance at winning. No drama.
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Posted: Sat Jan 04, 2014 10:46 am
If it's been earned then it ain't hurting anyone, it's a reward to the holder for the work that they have been doing!
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