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 Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:29 am
Smoke Shifting Smog, Poison, Ghastly
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Description: The users of this bloodline are extremly secretive. They first came from The Hidden Smoke village till it was destroyed, but have spread throughout other villages. Their power comes from adjusting the molicules in their body and spreading them out into a Nitrogen gas. This is extremly toxic.
Rules
• Unharmed by physical attacks when in smoke form, such as taijutsu and weapons. When in smoke form, inhaling it is very toxic
• Weak against water, the dispersion of smoke would be unavalible, wind would blast the smoke apart, meaning the user wouldnt be able to reform right away making them potentially vurnable
• Smoke is very flammible, if touched by fire could explode
• Can only stay in smoke form for up to three posts, can be done four times per fight
• Able to transform into black smoke, retaining their physical appearance
Bloodline/Clan Jutsus:
Basic:
Smoke Clone Jutsu:
Your basic clone jutsu made from the toxic smoke. It's very weak and can be destroyed by any attack.
Genin:
Smoke Movement:
By changing the legs into smoke the user can move easilly over any surface. Not including water.
Choas Fog:
This jutsu allows the user to spread a cloud of poisonous fog around them as cover. Though a good fire jutsu will wipe out anything inside it.
Chuunin:
Smoke Instantaneous Body Skill:
An ability which allows the user to transport from one area to another in a cloud of smoke. The user has to have been to the area before, and be able to sense the location with his own chakra before being able to transport himself there. This means that the distance is limited to about one mile. This jutsu can only be used to escape combat, and may not be used in the same post if the shinobi has attacked or defended.
Smoke Dragon Jutsu:
A powerfull jutsu that allows the temporary summon of a dragon formed cloud. The dragon can blast out streams of smoke to poison or sufficate the target.
Jounin:
Smoke Suffication Jutsu:
The users arms turn to smoke to smother the opponent, this is a powerfull jutsu but the user cannot move whilst using this jutsu.
Black Cloud Rain:
By breathing out a large cloud of smoke the user can create toxic rain. The user cannot control the rain or the residue from the toxic water.
Kage:
Eternal Shroud:
This jutsu causes the users body to exploded and create a thick fog. The user can then take form or disappear as long as they are in the fog. This is an effective technique against multiple opponents.
Head of Bloodline:
1. Tenmou Satou (DemonDays2)
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:30 am
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:44 pm
Well, my first and biggest problem with this one has to be Rule #1. The character is able to freely change to smoke form, becoming mostly invincible, but also can apparently kill people by forcing them to inhale their smoke. Get a grappler with this bloodline, and they can practically autokill anyone they fight. Easy to fix of course. Just drop the toxic effect.
An important thing to consider in any bloodline like this, is limitation on their ability to transform. Honestly the rule on this one regarding how often they can transform feels too limiting to me, but something is definitely needed. The transformation needs to have a cool down, and most likely a duration. It definitely needs a cost, and should really be a learned jutsu. There should also be ways to keep the user from transforming. Possibly something as simple as being covered by their element's "Opposite". Fire is obvious by the rules in this one, but possibly also water, as it seems unlikely one could turn to smoke while soaking wet. (Looking again that's also noted... This one is actually not that badly thought out, just needs some touching up. All my points there apply to any similar bloodline as well though, such as Suigetsu/Hozuki.)
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:20 pm
Jutsu: Smoke Shift
This jutsu allows the smoke shifter to tap into their powers for the first time. Using this jutsu, they can turn a single limb into an intangible cloud of smoke.
Jutsu: Complete smoke shift
This jutsu allows the user to instantaneously convert their entire body into a cloud of grey smoke, giving them the ability to phase through physical attacks. The smoke stays in a humanshape form, though can be easily moved by any sort of Fuuton jutsu. Upon transforming back into their human form, Complete smoke Shift cannot be used for at least one turn. Weapons held by a smoke shifter when using this jutsu will be dropped upon transformation.
Just some basics to work around. I must agree with hinote, take out that poison effect. Added in that last line to Complete smoke shift to prevent someone from just stabbing everyone in the neck.
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Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 5:53 pm
if the smoke touches fire it explodes. Does that mean the user is completely destroyed if someone hits their smoke form with a lit match?
Considering the basic idea is they turn to smoke I think what fire does to them in smoke form should be better defined. Also how much/what rank fire or lightning it would take.
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 12:57 pm
I agree the poison effect seems to have no place in the bloodline. It could perhaps be made into a jutsu, but they shouldn't be capable of just wafting through the area and poisoning people.
Shouldn't there be a cost to shifting into the smoke form? Something basic at least? Also, I think this bloodline should work in stages. I don't think a genin should be able to perform a complete smoke transformation. Perhaps make that something acquired at jounin rank or something.
A lot of the jutsu just need to be outright edited for content if they're going to stay. They're really not defined for the most part in terms of power, duration, etc.
Definitely need to fix that whole fire bit though. Just regular fire, chakra laced fire, ? Do they build a resistance to fire the stronger they are, and if so to what extent before combustion is inevitable?
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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 2:42 pm
Even though it isn't really clear about the exploding during smoke form, how about the explosion badly injures the person in smoke form. Maybe even each rank of a fire jutsu does a certain amount of damage with s rank most likely killing the person in smoke form.
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Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:08 pm
Smoke is incredibly flammable. It's fun sometimes to relight a candle by lighting the smoke before it fades too much. I suspect that is why that's included at all.
Exploding on contact though, seems more than a bit much. Perhaps simply making them more weak to fire than normal, say an extra rank of damage or two, and have the fire keep burning and damaging them for as long as they stay in smoke form. And obviously the fire would spread and cover them entirely, which generally wouldn't happen for a normal person.
Possibly even allow the fire to burn away entire body parts, following Greg's suggestion that they retain human shape even in smoke form. That would of course necessitate some form of regeneration or it'd be seen as quite harsh.
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Hinote Tosatsu Vice Captain
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Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:58 pm
I think we're focusing a bit too much on the "fire kills them" bit. You know what would actually be damaging to people in smoke form? Wind. A cloud of smoke vs a B rank wind jutsu? It would be like punching a ham with the power fist from Fallout.
I dunno about continually burning in smoke form, because I'm sure they got the fire weakness from that very candle trick. It seems to me that if they got caught by any fire, they would "explode", which would really just be igniting for the second it takes for the flame to spread, and.......Well, I assume they could fall to the ground as a pile of ash/smoke, where they could reform, albeit extremely damaged.
Yes, there should and will be a cost to smoke form transformation, as well as a duration limit before they must become human again, or until they can shift again. I purposely did not include ranks or chakra costs to those justu I made, didn't want to be too presumptuous. However, I think Limb Shift could be a possible E rank jutsu, and Body Shift a C, or even a D. Other jutsu could build on this shift, such as an upgrade that allows the shifter to move across a surface with no physical ground beneath them (which is actually already a jutsu, to my knowledge), the ability to quickshift (Think Smoke from Mortal Kombat. Actually, lets look at him for more ideas if we get stuck.), the ability to produce the effect of a smoke bomb, etc.
To anyone who thinks these weaknesses to these two elements are extreme, remember, this bloodline can grant near immunity to water, earth, lighting, and taijutsu. Extreme weakness to two elements for near immunity to four is a pretty good trade. And for those saying "but its not immunity, since they can get hit by that in non-smoke form!" Well, in non smoke form, they would also not have those extreme vulnerabilities.
How about a mini vote: Keep the poison effect, remove it completely, or opt for it to be a possible jutsu. Put your answers in dark blue, and vote even if you haven't contributed to the thread yet. Personally, I vote to take it out completely.
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:15 am
Yeah, in all honesty I see wind being pretty damaging. I would gather that futton would more than likely violently "knock" them out of the smoke form. If we're going to maintain that they remain one humanoid shape while in smoke form, we can't exactly say that wind dissipates the smoke and scatters it because those would be scattered limbs. However, we could say for sure that wind jutsu forces them into their human form with added adverse effects from the jutsu used. At least, that's my take on futton. Likewise, I would assume fire would revert them to their regular form with serious injuries.
Hmmm, I like the idea of having the bloodline's abilities and jutsu build upon one another. Looking to smoke isn't a bad idea either, he's about the closest thing to this bloodline that I can think of. Quickshifting would be an interesting one as well.
As for my vote, I vote to take it out completely.
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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:09 pm
What about smoker from one piece. I'll read the bloodline again in a minute but can the bloodline do partial transformation? It'll be sort of cool. Kind of give them a weird advantage in close range combat. As a matter of fact this bloodline could be a perfect taijutsu specialist if it's allowed partial transformation and can extend its body in smoke form.
As for the poison effect opt for it to be a possible jutsu
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 1:35 pm
I've never read one piece, but if his abilities correspond to what the bloodline could be, then sure.
I don't know about wind immediately turning them back to human form. They can still retain humanshape in smoke form, even if they're being thrown around in a hurricane. They'll just have no way of resisting the wind, and be blown around like a cloud. Then, when they DID shift back into human form, they would be dizzy and beaten up, like someone filled their head with marbles and had them go down Space Mountain ten times.
Now, extending the body while in smoke form may not be the best idea. It doesn't really make for effective taijutsu attacks, its like campfire smoke blowing in your face: Hard to breathe and hard to see, but no physical pain like a punch.
Possible jutsu so far:
Quickshift- The ability for a smoke shifter to rapidly attain smoke form for an instant, and rapidly change back into human form.
Weightless: By shifting their legs or whole body, the smoke shifter can float across gaps. This ability does not allow the smoke shifter to fly upwards.
Smoke Bomb: With a small amount of chakra, a smoke shifter can recreate the effects of a smoke bomb.
Smoke explosion: Same as smoke bomb, but covering a much larger area.
Smoke immunity: Even in human form, a smoke shifter will not succumb to the adverse effects of natural or created smoke, such as blindness, suffocation, etc. Poison smoke will carry it's poison effect.
Anyone else have any jutsu ideas?
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Friendly Conversationalist
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Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:01 pm
This is mostly about the Smoke fruit itself than Smoker. So maybe we can get some ideas from this for the bloodline. We can also use Smoke from mortal kombat (like you mentioned).
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:33 am
Gregar828 Anyone else have any jutsu ideas? How about a Kemurigakure no jutsu? Hidden Smoke technique, similar to the Kirigakure no jutsu. The difference being this one is not only flammable, but could possibly have some latent sensing abilities within the cloud since it is chakra laced. Maybe even a genjutsu that centers around using the smoke pellet jutsu as a trigger or something. Just spit-balling. Feel free to quote other people by the way, I'm just too tired to do so.
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:56 am
Luo1304 Gregar828 Anyone else have any jutsu ideas? How about a Kemurigakure no jutsu? Hidden Smoke technique, similar to the Kirigakure no jutsu. The difference being this one is not only flammable, but could possibly have some latent sensing abilities within the cloud since it is chakra laced. Maybe even a genjutsu that centers around using the smoke pellet jutsu as a trigger or something. Just spit-balling. Feel free to quote other people by the way, I'm just too tired to do so. Smoke pellet genjutsu would be excellent as a trigger for nearly any genjutsu a smoke user could use. I dunno about sensing within the cloud. The smoke user will probably gain some kind of smoke vision anyway. Know what would be cool? Sensory distortion. Anything in the cloud becomes harder to track as long as it keeps its chakra signature low (not firing off high level jutsu).
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