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For a short bit I have been looking at Rule 1 of the Squad Ability Section of our Guild Rules.

Personally I think the rule is kind of... well annoying. For instance, and this was also brought up to me by one of our Crew Members before but I didn't take thought into it then, and it was brought back up to me recently as well. The rule is very restricting onto those whom created a Squad Ability that is their own, such as since I created the Zanpakuto ability that grants 1 extra attack to each Release form of a user's character, such as 4 shikai for a maxed out shikai that is usually 3, and 3 bankai for a maxed out bankai that is usually 2. And an extra attack for each release of an Arrancar from soldier to captain ranked powers, thus giving them a full use of my squad ability.

If however I wished to move back to 11, or to just any other open squad, I would kind of want to take the squad ability I have created with me, as I am sure many of you would wish to keep your own squad ability that you have made.

Of course if we move to another squad and we just want to create a new squad ability, by getting rid of the one we already have, of course it will first be brought up with the guild council and a vote will be taken before it can be changed.


Now when transferring squad abilities, the ability of the squad being taken just does not vanish, it will trade places with the squad ability already in the squad.


Do you agree that captains should be able to keep their own squad abilities even with a squad change?

Yes: 3

No: 1

Abstain: 0

I vote yes on this as well.

I vote no on this. The reason it was put up was because some Squad ablities do not fit the squad.I do not believe the tamakai rip off should even exist in the guild seeing that we have a system like it. Before anyone says I am hating on just one thing. This was approved by you Redd in the first place when Ace and I made the rules,like you asked. I know that is not the council at all. My vote is no.

I believe Squad Abilities should only follow with Captains new and old. If a Captain comes to a new squad, they can either keep the old ability (if it wasn't taken by the old Captain to another squad) or make their own. This will also give non-captain level members some pride, as they would be able to keep the squad ability of the time they joined if they so chose.

If memory serves, Enshara left the guild taking the ability with her. When she came back, she needed to have gotten permission again, which she did not. There for,yes it was created before, but was taken out just the same with new permission needed once more.

Not to sound like a jerk/p***k and all but I did read what you are saying and as well as everyone else reply to it, I just want to clarify this for me and I want to Red to clarify it because he was the one that made this thread. Is this about letting Squad abilities follow the creator of it to a different Squad? or is it Letting Captains keep their Squad Ability even if the the Captain RPC changes Squad?

Looking at the question and as the question has been typed, it is more of a general because the question doesn't state that "Should Squad Abilities transfer with the Captain when the Captain transfer Squads" it only states "Captains should be able to keep their own Squad Abilities even with a squad change?"


To my vote on the question that Reddeye ask is yes, Captains as well as other members of the Squad should have a the choice to keep their current Squad Ability even if ether the Captain transfer or the member transfers. The reason why is because every person is different in their own special and unique way for example:

Example: Squad 11 is for people that loves to fight and be the first in battle and as I remember the first Squad Ability for 11 was that their reiastu change black causing their to multiply but how about their is a person that loves to fight and want to be first in battle that is why they join Squad 11 but they want Squad 8 ability to have the "Sixth Sense" that person should be able to have that ability and be in a different Squad because you can have a person that loves to fight and always want to be first to fight but they can read movements and use the foes strength against them with their own strength with it the only different is that that person needs to get trained in that ability instead there own squad ability.



My vote is No, because as Krono said and Enshara agrees with him on it




Because not all Squad Abilities can't fit every Squad that is why my vote is no that the Squad Ability should transfer when the creator transfer to a different Squad, I would say it should be up to the person themselves which Squad ability they want to learn even if they are in a different Squad from that ability.

So Reddeye as I said at the beginning what are you aiming for in this thread? Is it Keeping the Ability even if you change Squads or Is it the ability transfer to the Squad that the creator transfer to so I can give you which one I vote for.

Alright the rules state that if another ability fits the squad then you are allowed to change it, it doesn't than you cannot. So as a Guardian division... doesn't it make sense to be able to use your Zanpakuto spirit to Guard you as you have to option to do other things, such as evacuate injured people. To be honest, that Squad ability didn't fit Squad 11 at all. For being in a Squad that loves to fight, their ability was to sit back and watch other people do it instead? And even still if one is allowed to keep an ability from a previous squad, why are captain's any different? If a member would like to keep an ability of a previous Squad shouldn't we allow it? If the ability has to be taught, then make sure at least one person in the Squad is appointed as the teacher and be done with this. To be honest, not sure why we are making such a big deal out of this... I vote yes.

This is to allow the creator of a squad ability to take the actual ability from one squad, into another. However people have looked at this far too bluntly as saying that any squad ability can just transfer. This is saying that the ability can move over, as long as it fits with the squad. Such as if I were to take squad 2's ability and give it to the medical, and give the medical ability to squad 2... that wouldn't fit right at all, so that transfer would not be allowed.

Basically this is saying a squad ability can be taken else where as long as it makes sense for that particular squad.