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 Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:54 pm
Military-controlled user accounts counter valid information, ideas, and thought, while perpetually maintaining unsubstantive, non-beneficial, & nonproductive conduct on the forum.Politics forum: • Close Quarters Combat - Example (Sarcastic?) • Wendigo - Example (rationalizes murders as suicides -- there's too much evidence that she was murdered -- see example.) • rizuhbull - Example (I don't even know what to say about this guy) • tererun the spooky - Example (socially engineered generic personality with agenda) • Omnileech - Example, Example #2, Example #3, Example #4, Example #5, Example #6 (...stand by till further notice) • A Lost Iguana - Example, Example #2 (Impossible to convince) • B R A I N - Example, Example #2, Example #3 (sadistic agenda to bash "conspiracy theorists") • Uncle Jeff - Example (I admit that I didn't fully understand his post anyway) • Resid3nt - Example (I don't know...) • Requiem in Mortis - Example, Example #2, Example #3, Example #4 (This guy is a hardcore troll..) • Ban - Example (No idea..) • Dermezel - Example, Example #2, Example #3, Example #4, Example #5, Example #6, Example #7, Example #8, Example #9, Example #10, Example #11 (...WTF) • Evil Spaghetti - Example, Example #2, Example #3, Example #4, Example #5, Example #6 (over a 90% chance that this is actually a person with genuine intentions) • Lieutenant_Charon - Example (absolutely impossible to convince) • POTATO N... actually I will not say it - Example (Trolling -- Don't even bother talking to this guy..) • LightWarrior - Example, Example #2, Example #3 (Rationalizes murders as accidents.) • A Really Bad Idea - Example, Example #2, Example #3, ( Double-Speak) →Example #4 (Uses psychological warfare, has agenda, isn't logical, isn't legitimate.) • XcoldhandsX - Example, Example #2, Example #3, Example #4, Example #5 (trolls occasionally -- says says illogical things -- doesn't understand that George W. Bush is just a puppet and that it's more complicated than that. -- it's possible that he deliberately says this for psychological warfare purposes.) • el pibe tirofijo - Example #1, Example #2, Example #3, Example #4 (Trolling, strawman-arguments, using 2012 as an excuse to prove we're insane) This thread became a trainwreck filled with psychological warfare ******** posts: " The Obama Deception. Wake up people!!" " Jay Riot v3" has the exact same photo in his avatar that " rizuhbull" has. Talking-points and overall disingenuous posts that have no valid substance: • Bubsy - Example #1, Example #2, Example #3, (different thread but incriminating example) →Example #4, • Director Danguy - Example• METALFumasu - Example• GunsmithKitten - Example stare ...You shall know them by their fruits.... Well look at what these people have said and done.... But don't cast your pearls before swine... Because you can argue with these people for the rest of your ENTIRE F*CKING LIFE and it won't do anything. (Because it's either Psychological warfare black ops or idiots who have mentally set themselves beyond the point of no return...)Cast your seeds into the fertile soil, not on the rock. Posting on the main-forums should ultimately be effective (If you're doing it right) -- but when you see these user accounts replying to you, you should just ignore all of them and not reply to any of them. The only winning move is not to play. Just don't f*cking reply to these illegitimate bastards. WARNING: Users may change their names and avatars. EDIT:1. ...No-one figures out the false paradigm.Rick Perry was invited to a Bilderberg Group meeting and Jim Tucker mentioned a long time ago about how this means that he could be a potential president. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261Just go there and then skip-ahead to: 2 hours, 15 minutes, and 30 seconds. The word is: Perry is going to run with Sarah Palin for another attempt of 4 more years worth of false hope. (If it happens just remember I told you so.) 2. No-one learns about all of the shadow governments.Well the: •CFR • Bilderberg Group•Continuity of Government program Exists... I'm pretty sure that non-of-the-above is a part of our imagination or that we are only believing in such organizations out of pure delusion.. 3. No-one figures out that modern societies are socially engineered lies.People think that everything is fine and that the government would never lie to us. (It's a little more complicated than that but I think you get the idea) 4. No-one figures out that the genetically modified food ruins a human being's ability to properly have children (By the third-generation)Maybe I'm going to need a ton of hardcore proof for that one. 5. No-one figures out that the military is deliberately withholding technology [capable of ending global starvation and global energy problems] from society in-order to illegitimately 'justify' population-reduction.This one is also very complicated and controversial. But I personally insist that they are holding back the newest technologies from the general public while only giving us older and somewhat outdated technologies. The army has technology that is 15 years-ahead of what the general public has. It's said that higher levels of the military has technology that is 30 years ahead of what the general public has. And in other cases I hear it's 40 or so years ahead... But besides the technology issue, the food crisis is actually artificial and by design on-purpose. If they put solar panels all over the place (the newer and better solar panels) then that would solve global energy problems. (Because solar energy would replace the need for coal-powered / nuclear electricity plants) If they used the more advanced technology and scientific knowledge for food production, that would solve global food problems. (Because there would be a surplus of food) It would also help if they stopped deliberately maintaining an artificial imbalance of where food goes in the world... -- then all food distribution would be balanced out and everyone would get enough. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yRh5NNiFG0But they do this ON-PURPOSE and THEN claim that it's happening ONLY because there are too many people. (See number 4 for their solution to this "problem") The United States is the 3rd most populated country of the world. So this is also another reason why they're hitting us the hardest. Obviously, the only 2 other countries that have higher populations than the United States are: 1st highest population: China: 1,331,460,0002nd highest population: India: 1,155,347,700And again: 3rd highest population: United States: 307,006,550By the way: check out this June 2007 Wikileaks cable mentioning Bilderberg: http://www.cablegatesearch.net/search.php?q=bilderberg&sort=1Quote: - The annual Bilderberg Conference of the global elite will be held in Istanbul from May 31 to June 3 to discuss possible military operations against Iran, Turkey's EU membership, and energy policies. Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, World Bank President Paul Wolfowitz, former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and UNDP chief Kemal Dervis are some of the international personalities expected to attend this year's meeting. NOTICE: If you think these people will ever agree with you IF you try to convince them that a so called "Conspiracy Theory" is real or true, then you're out of your mind because after all this time, I FINALLY figured out that they have disagreed openly and blatantly with the "Conspiracy theories" in the past. -- And I personally think it is impossible to succeed in making them change their perspective on reality. It is a well known fact that pockybot and other Gaia Online users post "Conspiracy theories" openly on the Politics forum in an effort to warn massive numbers of people, and if you post threads on the forum then these people will be most likely to post disagreements in response to your thread. I suppose you could take the challenge to replying to these people but, at the same time, even for me, this challenge would be too hard. I may not be a total "Winner" at life itself, and I may be a failure, in the future, at trying to convince these specific people that any of the information or material or videos, movies, documents, news articles, etc. are actually validly true. -- It may be possible that these people, unbeknownst to me, may actually not work with the military, government, or any government agency, and are a regular citizen just like myself, and if this is the case, then I am making a mistake by associating, or even thinking, that their actions, words, patterns, [the way they talk] or whatever they do or whatever opinions that they have, would be the "sign" or "signs" or "indicator(s)" of a military psychological warfare operative. Even I, out of all people, cannot be completely sure about what the true reality is, despite how much/long I have experienced and lived through life. But I have noticed a pattern, where, people who have said statements such as the ones in the "Examples" that I have linked to, seem to never change their opinion. Whether an actual, regular person or not, I do not see it possible that their opinions or outlook on life will change, and I tactically suggest that all those who wish to alert massive numbers of people to information containing a different and alternative outlook on life and reality in the fastest way possible take heed that these people will most probably reply, and if they do, I am pointing out that they very strongly disagree with this type of information, and will most probably, in my personal opinion, continue to disagree with this type of information. This may or may not result in them stating that the Original Poster is a "conspiracy theorist" or that the Original Poster is mentally ill or something similar. It may not necessarily be a way of tactically intimidating you from making further posts, and it may just be that they are just openly stating their actual opinion of you, if they call you crazy, unlike what my personal initial interpretation of the purpose of statements, such as these, were for. This is beyond my control, and there is nothing I can do and I just feel bad that these people would actually do this.
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:03 pm
I'm a bit disappointed. A lot of these people are justified as being, well, impossible to talk to. Although, I went through some examples and they seemed pretty bland or just not even big.
For example, I went through the stuff you posted on omnileech. Most of it was the user asking why people weren't posting evidence and just spouting stuff? Sure, there was some things that were pretty eh, but still.
This list needs some work but you have a good start.
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Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 10:16 pm
Captain_Shinzo I'm a bit disappointed. A lot of these people are justified as being, well, impossible to talk to. Although, I went through some examples and they seemed pretty bland or just not even big.
For example, I went through the stuff you posted on omnileech. Most of it was the user asking why people weren't posting evidence and just spouting stuff? Sure, there was some things that were pretty eh, but still.
This list needs some work but you have a good start. Yeah so far I took 2 people off already before you even posted.. I added to the list a bit aggressively, I might add.. •Maybe it was possible that Close Quarters Combat was actually being sarcastic -- I take alot of stuff literally sometimes.. -- hard to sense internet-sarcasm.. I dunno how people would honestly be gullible enough to think that that description of the tea party could even be half accurate. •Also Evil Spaghetti has actually said some positive things and maybe she wasn't being sarcastic (when she said the positive stuff) either... (when she's not joking around such as in the examples I mentioned...) •and the "Ban" guy?.....well I dunno his avatar and name seemed trollish but at the same time he wasn't bringing up all the same talking-points and using the same phrases that the other people were using (over-used phrases such as "Conspiracy theories" or something like that) Or at least those are some people that I am immediately thinking about so far.. I would have to re-look at the other examples that I even mentioned for the others... But anyway some of these people...... I mean looking at what they said in the past -- how the hell is it possible to convince them? I mean I've seen trolls deny stuff no matter how much proof -- no matter how much evidence -- no now much sense it makes..-- on places like YouTube, anyway.. Oh and it's some kind of weird forum "past-time" to hate on pockybot like it was a sport or like everyone was doing it... And over and over again they keep saying he has no credibility (not exact words but generally what they're saying) and every time he DOES bring some kind of evidence up (or some evidence up) it's automatically null and void...... BY DEFAULTI've also seen trolls and other forums and chat rooms and places deny stuff no matter what.. Although I understand how people could be so freakin' hard-headed... But going on a forum and making THOUSANDS of posts as if they had no life or something...... but every time someone brings up something "alternative" they make HUGE amounts of efforts JUST to counter it.. People can wind up having like 10 pages of arguments and still nothing. You're just either A. insane or B. wrong no matter what Maybe Uncle Jeff and Resid3nt aren't the way that I thought they were either.. But Resid3nt looked pretty serious.. But he doesn't seem to have like 20 posts or something bashing tea party people or ron paul people or alternative media people... -- not even pockybot. So I guess there isn't an agenda going on there.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:13 am
Oh, look: http://www.gaiaonline.com/forum/politics/ron-paul/t.74107929_88/#88 Here's a small clusterf*ck of some of the people that were mentioned above in the following order: 1. Omnileech 2. Wendigo 3. el pibe tirofijo 4. A Lost Iguana (On page 7) --As if things couldn't be any more convenient? I mean 4 of the people IN A ROW from the list above posting in the same thread -- it gives the illusion to the casual forum viewer that it's all just random people... Gee, what a coincidence.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:45 pm
I think your first mistake was posting in the politics forum.
And I'm not taking any sides at all here but I think you should know that this thread might be considered as harassment under the TOS depending on who is looking. Apparently gossiping about people in guilds counts as harassment, so I've been told. Just a heads up.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:39 pm
1. idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others: the endless gossip about Hollywood stars. 2. light, familiar talk or writing. 3. Also, gos·sip·er, gos·sip·per. a person given to tattling or idle talk. –verb (used without object) 6. to talk idly, especially about the affairs of others; go about tattling. --- Idle talk?.. --Oh... Well honestly I didn't really care to keep this information secret from them. And I didn't really care where I was putting this list... But now that makes me think about how this is basically the new thing that's going around on the internet: Cyber-bullying. So they can illegitimately claim that that I'm harassing them or however now..? Well that concept or thought or idea didn't even occur to me this entire time. At all.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:46 pm
SUPREMEMASTER1 1. idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others: the endless gossip about Hollywood stars. 2. light, familiar talk or writing. 3. Also, gos·sip·er, gos·sip·per. a person given to tattling or idle talk. –verb (used without object) 6. to talk idly, especially about the affairs of others; go about tattling. --- Idle talk?.. --Oh... Well honestly I didn't really care to keep this information secret from them. And I didn't really care where I was putting this list... I'm just letting you know, man. If they're the types that stalk the people they don't like or agree with and raise hell to moderators over the slightest thing then you might have to deal with it. I wouldn't really bet on it though. You're basically saying "Put these people on ignore," and some people really don't like that kind of thing. I'm not telling you not to do it though.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 7:53 pm
Obscurus SUPREMEMASTER1 1. idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others: the endless gossip about Hollywood stars. 2. light, familiar talk or writing. 3. Also, gos·sip·er, gos·sip·per. a person given to tattling or idle talk. –verb (used without object) 6. to talk idly, especially about the affairs of others; go about tattling. --- Idle talk?.. --Oh... Well honestly I didn't really care to keep this information secret from them. And I didn't really care where I was putting this list... I'm just letting you know, man. If they're the types that stalk the people they don't like or agree with and raise hell to moderators over the slightest thing then you might have to deal with it. I wouldn't really bet on it though. You're basically saying "Put these people on ignore," and some people really don't like that kind of thing. I'm not telling you not to do it though. I really and seriously don't think that's the stalking they were talking about Quote: # Prohibited Conduct -- BY USING GAIA ONLINE YOU AGREE not TO: 1. "stalk", harass, threaten, or defraud other Gaia Members; I'm not stalking, I'm not actually harassing them, I'm not threatening them, and I'm not taking their money. I'm not I'm not monitoring their personal activities, I'm not getting in their face about this, I'm not threatening them about this, and I..... you know the rest.... And after taking a look at the terms of service.. I don't exactly see how what you just said is valid anymore. I don't even see the word Gossip written in the terms of service. Obscurus You're basically saying "Put these people on ignore," and some people really don't like that kind of thing. What I'm ACTUALLY trying to say is: "If you think these people will ever agree with you IF you try to convince them that a so called "Conspiracy Theory" is real or true, then you're out of your mind because after all this time, I FINALLY figured out that they have disagreed openly and blatantly with the "Conspiracy theories" in the past. -- And I personally think it is impossible to succeed in making them change their perspective on reality. "
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:00 pm
SUPREMEMASTER1 Obscurus SUPREMEMASTER1 1. idle talk or rumor, especially about the personal or private affairs of others: the endless gossip about Hollywood stars. 2. light, familiar talk or writing. 3. Also, gos·sip·er, gos·sip·per. a person given to tattling or idle talk. –verb (used without object) 6. to talk idly, especially about the affairs of others; go about tattling. --- Idle talk?.. --Oh... Well honestly I didn't really care to keep this information secret from them. And I didn't really care where I was putting this list... I'm just letting you know, man. If they're the types that stalk the people they don't like or agree with and raise hell to moderators over the slightest thing then you might have to deal with it. I wouldn't really bet on it though. You're basically saying "Put these people on ignore," and some people really don't like that kind of thing. I'm not telling you not to do it though. I really and seriously don't think that's the stalking they were talking about Quote: # Prohibited Conduct -- BY USING GAIA ONLINE YOU AGREE not TO: 1. "stalk", harass, threaten, or defraud other Gaia Members; I'm not stalking, I'm not actually harassing them, I'm not threatening them, and I'm not taking their money. I'm not I'm not monitoring their personal activities, I'm not getting in their face about this, I'm not threatening them about this, and I..... you know the rest.... And after taking a look at the terms of service.. I don't exactly see how what you just said is valid anymore. I don't even see the word Gossip written in the terms of service. Obscurus You're basically saying "Put these people on ignore," and some people really don't like that kind of thing. What I'm ACTUALLY trying to say is: "If you think these people will ever agree with you IF you try to convince them that a so called "Conspiracy Theory" is real or true, then you're out of your mind because after all this time, I FINALLY figured out that they have disagreed openly and blatantly with the "Conspiracy theories" in the past. -- And I personally think it is impossible to succeed in making them change their perspective on reality. "I agree with you, man. I'm just telling you that myself and other people I know have dealt with those types that fellate a lot of mods and try to use the system as a way to get rid of people they don't like or agree with. Most of it is just idle threats but you never know when a mod will cross the line. All I'm saying is be prepared. I don't think you'll have to worry too much about it though.
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:47 pm
Obscurus I agree with you, man. I'm just telling you that myself and other people I know have dealt with those types that fellate a lot of mods and try to use the system as a way to get rid of people they don't like or agree with. Most of it is just idle threats but you never know when a mod will cross the line. All I'm saying is be prepared. I don't think you'll have to worry too much about it though. By the way here is a more expanded version of what I was trying to pretty much say, now that I have given it even more thought: "If you think these people will ever agree with you IF you try to convince them that a so called "Conspiracy Theory" is real or true, then you're out of your mind because after all this time, I FINALLY figured out that they have disagreed openly and blatantly with the "Conspiracy theories" in the past. -- And I personally think it is impossible to succeed in making them change their perspective on reality. It is a well known fact that pockybot and other Gaia Online users post "Conspiracy theories" openly on the Politics forum in an effort to warn massive numbers of people, and if you post threads on the forum then these people will be most likely to post disagreements in response to your thread. I suppose you could take the challenge to replying to these people but, at the same time, even for me, this challenge would be too hard. I may not be a total "Winner" at life itself, and I may be a failure, in the future, at trying to convince these specific people that any of the information or material or videos, movies, documents, news articles, etc. are actually validly true. -- It may be possible that these people, unbeknownst to me, may actually not work with the military, government, or any government agency, and are a regular citizen just like myself, and if this is the case, then I am making a mistake by associating, or even thinking, that their actions, words, patterns, [the way they talk] or whatever they do or whatever opinions that they have, would be the "sign" or "signs" or "indicator(s)" of a military psychological warfare operative. Even I, out of all people, cannot be completely sure about what the true reality is, despite how much/long I have experienced and lived through life. But I have noticed a pattern, where, people who have said statements such as the ones in the "Examples" that I have linked to, seem to never change their opinion. Whether an actual, regular person or not, I do not see it possible that their opinions or outlook on life will change, and I tactically suggest that all those who wish to alert massive numbers of people to information containing a different and alternative outlook on life and reality in the fastest way possible take heed that these people will most probably reply, and if they do, I am pointing out that they very strongly disagree with this type of information, and will most probably, in my personal opinion, continue to disagree with this type of information. This may or may not result in them stating that the Original Poster is a "conspiracy theorist" or that the Original Poster is mentally ill or something similar. It may not necessarily be a way of tactically intimidating you from making further posts, and it may just be that they are just openly stating their actual opinion of you, if they call you crazy, unlike what my personal initial interpretation of the purpose of statements, such as these, were for. This is beyond my control, and there is nothing I can do and I just feel bad that these people would actually do this."Sorry about the wall of text. It even kinda hurts my own eyes just trying to read my own writing..
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Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2011 8:56 pm
SUPREMEMASTER1 Sorry about the wall of text. It even kinda hurts my own eyes just trying to reach my own writing.. No worries. I read it as you were gradually editing it instead of all at one time.
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:53 am
You could say the same about it the other way around, though. Try coming into this guild, seeing something completely outrageous, and then attempting to talk some sense into the OP/people that agree with them. Some people are just firmly set in their beliefs and do not listen to reason. That's also the reason why I don't really go into the ED anymore. There are always two sides, the for and the against, and no on convinces anyone of anything. They just hash the same arguments over and over again, it gets tiring. Well that and because there was this anti abortion thread and I got reported for defending myself against someone who blatantly attacked me >.> you're not supposed to defend yourself, just report people. So stupid.
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:01 am
Vanilla eXee
You could say the same about it the other way around, though. Try coming into this guild, seeing something completely outrageous, and then attempting to talk some sense into the OP/people that agree with them. Some people are just firmly set in their beliefs and do not listen to reason. That's also the reason why I don't really go into the ED anymore. There are always two sides, the for and the against, and no on convinces anyone of anything. They just hash the same arguments over and over again, it gets tiring. Well that and because there was this anti abortion thread and I got reported for defending myself against someone who blatantly attacked me >.> you're not supposed to defend yourself, just report people. So stupid.You'd think that people would have better things to do like go play video games. But no they go on a freaking forum. -- On the Internet....and talk to people they don't even f*cking know. Intention. Agenda. You name it. That's all I f*cking see. How could these people be so stupid... How could doing such a thing possibly even be fun? They're wackos if they're for-real. I'm sure I didn't even put all of them on that list -- there must be even more user accounts doing the same things -- pointlessly and endlessly arguing into a f*cking circle-jerk contest. However I should edit that list above because it was only a rough draft. A bunch of people need to be taken off... But the more I think about it, the more their actions make less sense.
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:04 am
SUPREMEMASTER1 But no they go on a freaking forum. -- On the Internet....and talk to people they don't even f*cking know.
eek Like what we're doing.....right now???
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:06 am
Vanilla eXee SUPREMEMASTER1 But no they go on a freaking forum. -- On the Internet....and talk to people they don't even f*cking know.
eek Like what we're doing.....right now???We're not doing it in the same way that they're doing it. I don't know about you but I don't have thousands of posts like those other fruitcakes on the ED forum do. Are we getting into an argument about 2 plus 2 equaling 5 yet? Because they'll get into arguments with people about stuff that is irrefutable, proven, and confirmed. But I must add this detail: They don't care if they're hated by everyone, they'll keep posting and pretending as if there is no problem. (Out of sight, out of mind, -- if people don't already know, there is no need to tell them..) But they keep coming back. Seems like an agenda to me. They blaspheme facts. They don't care what you think or feel. It is as if they are....... SOCIOPATHS... But here's the part that bothers me: To not think that there would be psychological warfare black ops military operating via classification levels that are higher than top secret who go on major message boards, and major social networking websites would be foolish at this point. I and others know that it happens, but we do not know who they are. They will pretend to be normal people. Because they're illegitimate. Duh. The reason why they lie to you is because you DON'T THINK THEY WILL. And when they make thousands of pointless posts and dominate a message board as if they have nothing better to do: Red FlagWhen they use talking-points and psychological warfare techniques including intimidation: Red FlagWhen they use the system to get your account banned from the website and then sadistically brag to your face that they're doing it just before you're banned: Red FlagHave we done any of the above to each other? No.Military-controlled user accounts counter valid information, ideas, and thought, while perpetually maintaining unsubstantive, non-beneficial, & nonproductive conduct on the forum.
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