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 Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:43 am
I've posted this in other forums though fyi
Science-based links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resonance
http://electromagnetichealth.org/electromagnetic-health-blog/ce-less-emf/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_radiation_and_health
http://cellphonesafety.wordpress.com/2006/09/17/the-frequency-of-the-human-bodyand-your-coffee/
http://www.electroherbalism.com/Bioelectronics/IntroductiontoBioelectronics/ElectricalandFrequencyEffectsonPathogens.htm
http://www.causeof.org/brainwaves.htm
http://www.scienceclarified.com/everyday/Real-Life-Physics-Vol-2/Frequency-How-it-works.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_21_2_mason.pdf
The other stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empathy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sympathetic_magic
http://asiarecipe.com/srirain.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaos_magic
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aura_(paranormal)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OcQOlr6hPQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clairvoyance#Clairsentience_.28feeling.2Ftouching.29
EXPLANATION: Resonance works on the level of all forms of energy it seems, radiation sound(motion) electromagnetism and more and objects of similar frequencies cause the other one to vibrate, like two tuning forks at a similar frequency when one is struck. Everything holds a frequency, including humans, and we are affected by frequencies of the things around us such as electronics, though electronics have a stronger effect than most other objects obviously because of their electromagnetic fields or radiations and such.
Imitative magic(sympathetic magic) is magic used in ancient paganism where, for example, people could try to get it to rain by imitating the sounds of rain and such. I believe this has its effect because it increases the probability of raining by promotign more energy of the environment towards the desired outcome, and because of simple things such as the butterfly effect, this can cause a significant difference.
And humans effect random number generators, which also suggests this is could be the case. As well humans organs each have different frequencies, and int he nerves are electrical impulses, electrical could show how it affects empaths because electronics affect people as well but all people not just empaths, but its stronger with humans than electronics to affect empaths because of resonating at a closer frequency to the human frequencies.
Also feng shui (mentioned in the chi link briefly) is about how objects energies can affect the energy(chi) of a room based on placement and such, which reminds me of magical rituals but feng shui would be along-term thing while rituals would try to affect the subconcious mind and more, and i beleive the subconcious mind affects the aura and synchronicity, as well i think magic and resonance are related to synchronicity. Chaos magicians try to influence the subconcious mind to try to acheive or gain what they will, which leads me to believe mindsets can cause aural change attracting different things to them, though ti coudl also be the resonance of their subconcious thoughts affecting reality, since the brain is electrical and perhaps we can be affected, along with the environment, with subtle enough changes in our brains to cause the influence to our environment.
This means that belief, mindset, and such are strong in determining the outcome of magical and non-magical acts.
As well (though i don't have links for this part though half of it is easy enough to confirm anyways) negative ions occur in thunderstorms(basically electricity) and negative ions are healthy, while positive ions are not. Chi and magic i have read before from different sources, each one was said to be easier to charge during a thunder storm. This made me wonder about another video i saw on chi where this dude could zap people, and was using chi-therapy and they tried to test how much electricity he coudl discharge and it was enough for a small led lightbulb, and he set a newspaper on fire as well. This made me almost positive chi is electrical based, and that magic is interconnected with chi and empathy because of how humans frequencies can affect another, and its related to psychics because psychics can pick up on thoughts, which is possibly the electrical frequency or some such thing they detect from another person. Chi(watch the youtube video) was also used to move objects, just like telekinesis, so itd make sense they are interconnected.
Also i read some of a book on how people exposed to electromagnetic fields or hit by lightning can have psychic abilities afterwards, well there were claims of this at least. As well the video i mentioned (but coudlnt find) about the chi dude using it for therapy and setting fire to a newspaper, he also said something about being able to read objects with chi, so i think perhaps electromagnetic imprints or patterns in the frequency could be read through clairsentience to determine the object's past or other things. (i admit this arguement is perhaps one of the weaker ones here)
So now you can't easily prove any of this wrong, you need to look at this unbiasedly to find the truth and that obviously points towards chi/psychics/magic/empathy being all interrelated and connected, and scientifically plausible.
What are your thoughts? also alot of people are saying wikipedia is unreliable but these sources seem to match most other things anyways i could find on google, and id rather put one wikipedia link than search google for 1-3 links per wikipedia link i would have used.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:54 pm
It is indeed plausible. I once thought of the connection between electricity and psychic abilities, but never went too far with it. This makes enough sense to be possible in many ways.
I too have seen that video and now that this has been brought to my attention, it all seems to make sense. Chi, psi, ki, etc. It's all from the body and utilizes the mind's focus. Electrical impulses.
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Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:35 pm
It should be obvious now that everything is interconnected and interrelated.
I would suggest that you stop trying to rationalize all of this with science though. You would probably be better off pursuing these things yourself instead of trying to prove them to everyone else based on a method of knowledge that is very incomplete when it comes to these subjects (that is, science).
Just some advice, man. xd
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 12:51 pm
Obscurus It should be obvious now that everything is interconnected and interrelated. I would suggest that you stop trying to rationalize all of this with science though. You would probably be better off pursuing these things yourself instead of trying to prove them to everyone else based on a method of knowledge that is very incomplete when it comes to these subjects (that is, science). Just some advice, man. xd yeah once again i agree with you. occult stuff isnt something that can really be or should be rationalized with science imo.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:29 pm
There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science.
I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:52 pm
Dalcain There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science. I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief. Magic and science were the same thing once upon a time.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:59 pm
Obscurus Dalcain There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science. I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief. Magic and science were the same thing once upon a time. Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!!
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:07 pm
Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science. I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief. Magic and science were the same thing once upon a time. Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!! Alchemy is the most obvious example but mathematics was also once very magical. For an idea of that you should go find John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica. I'm pretty sure it's easy to find on the Net these days. Interesting read and not too long.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:36 pm
Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science. I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief. Magic and science were the same thing once upon a time. Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!! Alchemy is the most obvious example but mathematics was also once very magical. For an idea of that you should go find John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica. I'm pretty sure it's easy to find on the Net these days. Interesting read and not too long. Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:55 pm
Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science. I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief. Magic and science were the same thing once upon a time. Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!! Alchemy is the most obvious example but mathematics was also once very magical. For an idea of that you should go find John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica. I'm pretty sure it's easy to find on the Net these days. Interesting read and not too long. Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog. It's sometimes amazing what you can find when you know what you're looking for, by name or otherwise.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:00 pm
Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain There is a way, but neither is complete enough to have strong enough bonds. This does shows how they could be connected and seems to work well with what is known from mysticism and science. I guess one could say that science is a modernized form of magic based on experimentation and not just belief. Magic and science were the same thing once upon a time. Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!! Alchemy is the most obvious example but mathematics was also once very magical. For an idea of that you should go find John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica. I'm pretty sure it's easy to find on the Net these days. Interesting read and not too long. Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog. It's sometimes amazing what you can find when you know what you're looking for, by name or otherwise. I hate never knowing the name of what I'm looking for. It makes it so much harder to learn. This guy was...something else. He seemed like a crack pot but everything makes sense in one way or another.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:09 pm
Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!! Alchemy is the most obvious example but mathematics was also once very magical. For an idea of that you should go find John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica. I'm pretty sure it's easy to find on the Net these days. Interesting read and not too long. Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog. It's sometimes amazing what you can find when you know what you're looking for, by name or otherwise. I hate never knowing the name of what I'm looking for. It makes it so much harder to learn. This guy was...something else. He seemed like a crack pot but everything makes sense in one way or another. John Dee was brilliant. It's amazing that he let Edward Kelley dupe him into wife swapping. I'm convinced that's what it was too and not the desire of angels. Kelley was a bit of a scoundrel.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:23 pm
Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Good to know. Now I can take that to the grave with peace. ALCHEMY!!!! Alchemy is the most obvious example but mathematics was also once very magical. For an idea of that you should go find John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica. I'm pretty sure it's easy to find on the Net these days. Interesting read and not too long. Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog. It's sometimes amazing what you can find when you know what you're looking for, by name or otherwise. I hate never knowing the name of what I'm looking for. It makes it so much harder to learn. This guy was...something else. He seemed like a crack pot but everything makes sense in one way or another. John Dee was brilliant. It's amazing that he let Edward Kelley dupe him into wife swapping. I'm convinced that's what it was too and not the desire of angels. Kelley was as a bit of a scoundrel. Wife swapping? They actually did that?
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:33 pm
Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog. It's sometimes amazing what you can find when you know what you're looking for, by name or otherwise. I hate never knowing the name of what I'm looking for. It makes it so much harder to learn. This guy was...something else. He seemed like a crack pot but everything makes sense in one way or another. John Dee was brilliant. It's amazing that he let Edward Kelley dupe him into wife swapping. I'm convinced that's what it was too and not the desire of angels. Kelley was as a bit of a scoundrel. Wife swapping? They actually did that? That's the story. It also seemed to be the point where John Dee started to fall from grace. If only he'd learned to scry for himself.
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:35 pm
Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Obscurus Dalcain Wow, you're right. It was as easy as looking up a picture of a dog. It's sometimes amazing what you can find when you know what you're looking for, by name or otherwise. I hate never knowing the name of what I'm looking for. It makes it so much harder to learn. This guy was...something else. He seemed like a crack pot but everything makes sense in one way or another. John Dee was brilliant. It's amazing that he let Edward Kelley dupe him into wife swapping. I'm convinced that's what it was too and not the desire of angels. Kelley was as a bit of a scoundrel. Wife swapping? They actually did that? That's the story. It also seemed to be the point where John Dee started to fall from grace. If only he'd learned to scry for himself. Wait...why did they switch wives? Did he not like the one he had?
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