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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 8:21 pm


I'm going to bring us out of our comfort zone for a moment and ask, So why doesn't God make amputee limbs grow back? With Christianity being around for as long as it has been I'm sure this question has been asked before. So why is this question such a tripper now? What are your responses to this question?
PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:12 pm


The only answer I have, is Faith is believing in something that is unseen, when there is no rhyme or reason. If he did grant a limb to grow back, then the same question would arise with thousand of other conditions and illnesses. Though he does have the power, to heal wounds, but if he did so then there would be those that would still say it is something to do with DNA or evolution...

Mathew 10:28,
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.

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PostPosted: Wed May 25, 2011 10:20 pm


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The only answer I have, is Faith is believing in something that is unseen, when there is no rhyme or reason. If he did grant a limb to grow back, then the same question would arise with thousand of other conditions and illnesses. Though he does have the power, to heal wounds, but if he did so then there would be those that would still say it is something to do with DNA or evolution...

Mathew 10:28,
Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.


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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2011 3:09 am


I think one question that should be addressed concerning this question is what is meant by God? If God in this question is believed to be a "wish-machine" then the logical conclusion to this question is that definition of God does not exist. If that is not your definition of God then refuting this question should be easier. The early Christians and even mediaval Christians did not believe that God was a "wish-machine".

Edit: Next it assumes that God can only heal in particular way, that God is opposed to science, and that God does not work through other people.

While the why question cannot be answered since the Father is ultimately unknowable except in nature through Christ, it does not mean that God doesn't provide the means for such healing to occur either through known means or through unexplainable means.

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PostPosted: Fri May 27, 2011 5:10 am


I personally despise the question of why won't God heal amputees because the fact that there are amputees is a miracle, or at the very least a testament to the creative, loving, and curious beings that He made us as. For the vast majority of human existence if you lost so much as a finger, 9 times out of 10 you would die--either from bleeding out or a nasty infection.

The fact that we have prostheses, robotic limbs, and professionals who dedicate their lives to rehabilitating amputees is also a testament to the unconditional love imbued in us. Things like these go against the Darwinian "suvival of the fittest" because we as people refuse to leave another beind no matter how "unfit" he/she might be. We hope.

And our hope shines through all the regional, national, and international groups that are dedicated to helping amputees and the disabled, and fighting discrimination against them. And we wouldn't know that we were capable of doing such things unless amputees existed.

I liken them to the Biblical lepers. Outside of the few that Jesus healed, I'm certain there were tens of thousands of others left unhealed in his time. Why didn't Jesus heal them all? Through his healing he was teaching us not to judge or fear one another for our physical differences, but to love and help in the ways we knew how. It wasn't about eradicating a disease from the earth, but living fully despite them all.

So, these questions miss the entire point of why we were made.
Anywho, I know we aren't the ones with this issue. It's the incredibly foolish who ask these things. Those who do not want to be forced out of their comfort zone or face these dangers, even when their presence grows us and teaches us that fear is easily overcome by compassion.
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 12:50 pm


Alright, this may blow a couple minds, it did mine...

When I was about 11 years old, I had a friend whose father was a pastor, Her family went to help co-host a revival at a church in our area. There is a woman there one night, who lost her arm in an accident... it was sawed off about midway up her forearm to extricate her from a vehicle. She was still recovering, in a wheelchair, and had insisted on being at that revival, despite objections from everyone around her....

The woman decided she wanted to make a public statement that she trusted God despite her misfortune, and that she didn't care what happened to her, nothing was going to keep her from believing, and then the evangelist decided to pray for her fast recovery and the stump of her arm began to change... she fully grew her arm and hand back...

There was one picture taken at the accident scene of the woman unconscious and her sawed off stump. My friend brought it to church to show us, yet the woman when all saw her, had her arm back. I wasn't there the night this happened, I didn't go to the revival, but I know enough people who had seen her at, and after the accident to know that for about a week and a half of that woman's life, she didn't have two hands.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:48 pm


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Alright, this may blow a couple minds, it did mine...

When I was about 11 years old, I had a friend whose father was a pastor, Her family went to help co-host a revival at a church in our area. There is a woman there one night, who lost her arm in an accident... it was sawed off about midway up her forearm to extricate her from a vehicle. She was still recovering, in a wheelchair, and had insisted on being at that revival, despite objections from everyone around her....

The woman decided she wanted to make a public statement that she trusted God despite her misfortune, and that she didn't care what happened to her, nothing was going to keep her from believing, and then the evangelist decided to pray for her fast recovery and the stump of her arm began to change... she fully grew her arm and hand back...

There was one picture taken at the accident scene of the woman unconscious and her sawed off stump. My friend brought it to church to show us, yet the woman when all saw her, had her arm back. I wasn't there the night this happened, I didn't go to the revival, but I know enough people who had seen her at, and after the accident to know that for about a week and a half of that woman's life, she didn't have two hands.
I was actually reading about some Marian apparitions where that had occurred but many of them were so old that it's questionable. Yes it blows my mind. The human body is something we understand very little.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:12 pm


Questions like this always come back to the root issue of God's existence. If God does exist, then I have to accept him as being the wise and quite powerful being that he is. If I have my left eye plucked, maybe it's to make sure that at the right time and place, I notice something to my right that he wants me to see. XD

Oh wait, not a great example... not a limb >.>

Well there was that one-legged wrestler who won the chamionship earlier this year. Sadly I can't remember his name. But case and point?? I mean, sometimes when things are harder, it makes at better at what we need to be better at.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:07 am


The answer to this question is quite simple, though not easily understood by those who don't know Christ, I am sure: God is indeed omnipotent and capable of doing anything. However, that does not automatically mean He will.


While we're on the subject I believe you should take a look at this video. Hopefully you'll be able to answer the questions logically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ

As a Christian, I believe it would be important to know how to counter these questions brought up by people. Indeed they're ignorant, but they're your common atheist or non-believer questions that a person will ask. If you're terribly weak in faith, I wouldn't suggest listening because the ignorant questions and "proofs" of errancy might misguide you.

In addition, do answer the questions logically. Don't say "you ignorant people! Just accept that God exists! How else could the earth be created anyway?" That just makes you look ignorant. Who has experience? This brother in Christ right here. Of course I never shouted at them calling them ignorant. But I did simply say in a nutshell "God exists because He does" to which they can say "God doesn't exists because He doesn't." Yeah, have good, well developed arguments when handling skeptics' questions such as these.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:21 am


Wow... I watched the whole video, but it was kind of a let down at the end. Thing is, that's where my questions have led me for the most part. So I was sort of half expecting some revelation at the end that might have shown me something new to add to that perspective.

On a positive note however, as an atheist, I don't totally agree with those answers.

I already answered the question about amputees in a previous post above. But when it comes to dying or suffering for any reason, if I know God to be true, then I think it would be very fulfilling to be a part of that plan. I mean, I value my suffering as it is, because for all that I've suffered, it's ultimately led to much better things in life, and my understanding of the world continues to grow ever still because of it. I may be ignorant to God's existence, but I assure you, it's not intentional per say. I guess you could say I lack having a critical and potenially necessary experience to create that bond. To a certain extent, I think there's a reason for everything as it is. If I consider God as the ultimate designer with all wisdom, love and capacity that entails, then any suffering I might endure as part of that would be so washed away by my happiness for being a part of it.
This might not be a typical, atheistic stance on the matter. But I'm only an atheist because I'm yet to find what I consider a reason to believe. I don't object to the idea of finding that reason, nor do I feel obligated to disprove God's existence. I think that would be rather silly silly a thing to try doing on either side of the spectrum.
And in regards to the questions about divorce. Well that's easy too. People have free will because God allegedly gave it to them, amirite? 3nodding That, and just as you pointed out in a previous post, God created lucifer both perfect and beautiful, just as I'm sure he creates a marriage to be so perfect and beautiful, and for whatever part God has in it, I'm sure that it would be. But people get a choice all the same. They can disregard what God has invested and take their marriage down a road to peril. But that is their doing, not God's. So I would still think every marriage was made perfect before God. Am I making sense here? Let me know if I'm off my rocker. As an atheist pondering such things, I've been known to drift off course.

Anyway, that's my little bit of nutshell on that matter. heart

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 4:30 am


god just decided that humans shouldnt grow back limbs like some other animals. im not sure why but im sure he had his reasons. maybe he wants to see if we can figure out how to regrow limbs on our own?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:20 am


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god just decided that humans shouldnt grow back limbs like some other animals. im not sure why but im sure he had his reasons. maybe he wants to see if we can figure out how to regrow limbs on our own?

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