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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:48 pm
so, appearntly the sleepr project is where the goverment plants 2 words in your subconcious, an " on" word and an "of" word, and they make people super soilders and they kill on comand, and they do it buy saying the on word and make them stop by saying the off word, and they dont remember anything ,a man says he led a squad of these super soilders in veitnam, so, do you think the sleeper project is real?
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:14 pm
Doesn't seem plausible to me. The sleeper project was a rumor spread by nutty people for end-of-the-world theories. The most popular during war time was government-involved stories.
I can't say for sure this DOESN'T exist. However, I assure you that it's very doubtful if it does. It's a very slim chance of succeeding.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:59 pm
From what I know, the CIA has tried with extreme funding and man hours to brainwash someone. They found it was impossible. They tried drugs, they tried hypnosis, shock therapy, amnesia, torture, but to put it simply, they could not control the mind of someone else. Maybe the soviets achieved it, but I doubt it.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:00 pm
It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so.
So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:06 pm
Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. Well with conditioning, you can train someone who is a normal family man into someone who can kill someone without question. Military teaches recruits like that and I learned that from martial art training.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:18 pm
Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory/idea is not only is there evidence supporting brain control is extremely hard (If not possible.) but no way does mind control change physical properties of a person. For example, let's say you get a wounded veteran soldier. If he's in a wheel-chair, brain washing doesn't make him walk nor does it make him stronger or faster. The other idea that a specific mission and programming someone into a killing machine without skill or physical built strength also makes me doubtful.
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:41 pm
Captain_Shinzo Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory/idea is not only is there evidence supporting brain control is extremely hard (If not possible.) but no way does mind control change physical properties of a person. For example, let's say you get a wounded veteran soldier. If he's in a wheel-chair, brain washing doesn't make him walk nor does it make him stronger or faster. The other idea that a specific mission and programming someone into a killing machine without skill or physical built strength also makes me doubtful.not trying to start a flame war. from what ive herd that water board to make them take as much pain as possable and they are supsosed to complete thier mission no matter what, and training is conducted while under the goverment is controlling you
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:53 pm
Is this like Project ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA?
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:00 pm
Obscurus Is this like Project ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA? im not sure what those are
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:41 pm
buffer920 Captain_Shinzo Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory/idea is not only is there evidence supporting brain control is extremely hard (If not possible.) but no way does mind control change physical properties of a person. For example, let's say you get a wounded veteran soldier. If he's in a wheel-chair, brain washing doesn't make him walk nor does it make him stronger or faster. The other idea that a specific mission and programming someone into a killing machine without skill or physical built strength also makes me doubtful.not trying to start a flame war. from what ive herd that water board to make them take as much pain as possable and they are supsosed to complete thier mission no matter what, and training is conducted while under the goverment is controlling you I didn't exactly understand that. What?
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:01 pm
Captain_Shinzo buffer920 Captain_Shinzo Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory/idea is not only is there evidence supporting brain control is extremely hard (If not possible.) but no way does mind control change physical properties of a person. For example, let's say you get a wounded veteran soldier. If he's in a wheel-chair, brain washing doesn't make him walk nor does it make him stronger or faster. The other idea that a specific mission and programming someone into a killing machine without skill or physical built strength also makes me doubtful.not trying to start a flame war. from what ive herd that water board to make them take as much pain as possable and they are supsosed to complete thier mission no matter what, and training is conducted while under the goverment is controlling you I didn't exactly understand that. What? flame war= a bunch of people argueing you said you dont see how they make them a killing machine without training, water boarding is where they stick nails under your finger nails and pourt water on them, its been told the pain is so bad it makes u black out, but they have some kinda medcine in them to make them stay away the whole time, thier fore makething them able to take more pain, and they suposedly train them when they are under the mind control, when they dont even know they are doing it
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2011 9:44 pm
buffer920 Obscurus Is this like Project ARTICHOKE/MKULTRA? im not sure what those are You should Google them. You would probably find them interesting.
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:52 pm
buffer920 Captain_Shinzo buffer920 Captain_Shinzo Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory/idea is not only is there evidence supporting brain control is extremely hard (If not possible.) but no way does mind control change physical properties of a person. For example, let's say you get a wounded veteran soldier. If he's in a wheel-chair, brain washing doesn't make him walk nor does it make him stronger or faster. The other idea that a specific mission and programming someone into a killing machine without skill or physical built strength also makes me doubtful.not trying to start a flame war. from what ive herd that water board to make them take as much pain as possable and they are supsosed to complete thier mission no matter what, and training is conducted while under the goverment is controlling you I didn't exactly understand that. What? flame war= a bunch of people argueing you said you dont see how they make them a killing machine without training, water boarding is where they stick nails under your finger nails and pourt water on them, its been told the pain is so bad it makes u black out, but they have some kinda medcine in them to make them stay away the whole time, thier fore makething them able to take more pain, and they suposedly train them when they are under the mind control, when they dont even know they are doing it I understood what waterbording and flame war meant. However, I didn't understand what you were saying. and don't worry about a flame war here. It's a casual civil debate. That is, you can atleast expect that from me. Anyway, I can agree with you that they can do this. That's no secret. The problem is, kidnapping someone to do this secret experiment and train them is unlikely. The training they would need to make a super-soldier would take a good while, enough for people to notice that person is missing. Not to mention that such person would notice the changes to his body, wondering why his hands are mutilated and where the random reflexes and strength came from. Not to mention the random time jump from them being kidnap to them being back at their house would be weird. So the idea That everyone has gone through this just can't be possible. One person? Maybe, but to mentally be able to activate them seems slim, and the idea to make them into a soldier without anyone getting suspicious seems even more unlikely. Reason why you never here stories about people disappearing and reappearing with a different appearance like they went to war.
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:52 pm
Captain_Shinzo buffer920 Captain_Shinzo buffer920 Captain_Shinzo Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. The only thing that makes me doubt this theory/idea is not only is there evidence supporting brain control is extremely hard (If not possible.) but no way does mind control change physical properties of a person. For example, let's say you get a wounded veteran soldier. If he's in a wheel-chair, brain washing doesn't make him walk nor does it make him stronger or faster. The other idea that a specific mission and programming someone into a killing machine without skill or physical built strength also makes me doubtful.not trying to start a flame war. from what ive herd that water board to make them take as much pain as possable and they are supsosed to complete thier mission no matter what, and training is conducted while under the goverment is controlling you I didn't exactly understand that. What? flame war= a bunch of people argueing you said you dont see how they make them a killing machine without training, water boarding is where they stick nails under your finger nails and pourt water on them, its been told the pain is so bad it makes u black out, but they have some kinda medcine in them to make them stay away the whole time, thier fore makething them able to take more pain, and they suposedly train them when they are under the mind control, when they dont even know they are doing it I understood what waterbording and flame war meant. However, I didn't understand what you were saying. and don't worry about a flame war here. It's a casual civil debate. That is, you can atleast expect that from me. Anyway, I can agree with you that they can do this. That's no secret. The problem is, kidnapping someone to do this secret experiment and train them is unlikely. The training they would need to make a super-soldier would take a good while, enough for people to notice that person is missing. Not to mention that such person would notice the changes to his body, wondering why his hands are mutilated and where the random reflexes and strength came from. Not to mention the random time jump from them being kidnap to them being back at their house would be weird. So the idea That everyone has gone through this just can't be possible. One person? Maybe, but to mentally be able to activate them seems slim, and the idea to make them into a soldier without anyone getting suspicious seems even more unlikely. Reason why you never here stories about people disappearing and reappearing with a different appearance like they went to war. oh s**t, im sorry i may ive mis read your post >__<""""" i was basicly saying thats how they train them to become the "super soilders" while under the brain control the goverment trains them on a course, so all that stuff is how they train them, if you dont understand this im sorry, im not good with words, but i do have a theroy on how the abduct people, i think they choose a person, with no family what so ever, no wife, child, cousin, mother or father, i know thier are very few people like this but there are some, and they choose that person, because think about it, he has no one, so no one will know hes missing
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 5:43 pm
God Emperor Akhenaton Ledon Kester It's possible and might be real. The key was to hypnotize people to receive those two commands. What makes them super is that they won't go against "programming" and will do whatever possible to achieve their mission. If we can make a person think they're a chicken, there's no reason to not believe they can't kill a simple mortal target or cause enough distraction for the others to do so. So, you never know. Anything can happen. Nothing is impossible, because no matter how it is accomplished, it is accomplished. Well with conditioning, you can train someone who is a normal family man into someone who can kill someone without question. Military teaches recruits like that and I learned that from martial art training. This is evidence number one. Take away what the subject has and make them believe their only purpose is to do what you say. This is considered a form of brainwashing and has occurred many times if I remember. Like making a slave out of someone or using desire. This is another way that has proven effective to some.
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