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 Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:55 am
Quote: A: Free preventive care, for one. Some people will no longer have to pay copays, coinsurance or meet their deductibles for preventive care that's backed up by the best scientific evidence. That includes flu vaccines, mammograms and even diet counseling for adults at-risk of chronic disease. now some of you may be jumping like the easter bunny over 'best scientific evidence' however, let's look at some basic issues. 1. Vaccines - are they real? Depends. Sometimes vaccines are real - like Mumps, other times they are something completely different - like drugs designed to force population reduction or control. Most of the time, Vaccines simply weaken the immune system to the point that you need more drugs to keep up. 2. A mammogram is almost always having your breast painfully squashed and bombarded with radiation. Radiation is the most proven cause of cancer in human history. When Tesla was working with X rays, he designed lead shielding because he concluded it was extremely dangerous. Radiation isn't like boiling water - when you wait a little while, the damage isn't undone. Radiation is accumulated over a life time and never goes away (with the exception of extremely exotic drugs). That means every time you get a mammogram, you are increasing the total amount of radiation you are getting and concentrating it in your breast tissue. Check out this web article http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aETXq6qDpjNYand notice how cautious they are to avoid stating the obvious...
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:10 am
A mammogram saved my mother's life. She has been free of breast cancer for 15 years. A breast examination only works as long as the tumor is shallow enough to be felt.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:10 pm
corn syurp feeds cancer, and they say a high akaline body, cancer cant live in it (<- ill need to look into that myself.)
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 1:03 pm
The rose in spring A mammogram saved my mother's life. She has been free of breast cancer for 15 years. A breast examination only works as long as the tumor is shallow enough to be felt. breast cancer is one of a handful of cancers that can actually go away naturally with some drastic changes in activities, stress and diet. I don't recall where I read that but it was definitely in a medical report. Then again, I'm a big fan of holistic medicine so you shouldn't listen to me. Edit: http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/health/medical/breastcancer/2010-09-23-mammogram23_st_N.htm I just found this article... mammograms overrated.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:38 pm
Hoshioni corn syurp feeds cancer, and they say a high akaline body, cancer cant live in it (<- ill need to look into that myself.) also look into akaline dangers, dr.mercola wrote an article about it the other day talking about people profiting from akaline water. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2010/09/11/alkaline-water-interview.aspx if you really want some miracle water, look into food grade hydrogen peroxide water, but make sure you buy from a reputable source, and don't get any knock offs. they usually sell a bottle of it and give you an eye dropper to add a few drops to your own water. some people are doing bait and switch and don't actually sell Food grade hydrogen peroxide" they call it something else, I forget, so look out for that. mammograms IMO are like a dentist saying "you got a cavity" when you can't see it, can't feel it and it isn't bothering you. then you got to pay to have the cavity filled when you would have been perfectly fine without the mercury filling. as for the DIET counseling, sure they will tell you eat more vegetables blah blah blah. but text book nutrition is bullshit. people need to illuminate most of the red meat in their diets, most grains and almost all beverages. the "Food pyramid" needs a total work over, IMO it's the root cause of them problem. people are not educated about what our bodies really need for fuel and what we should actually be eating to stay healthy.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 2:52 pm
Michael Noire The rose in spring A mammogram saved my mother's life. She has been free of breast cancer for 15 years. A breast examination only works as long as the tumor is shallow enough to be felt. breast cancer is one of a handful of cancers that can actually go away naturally with some drastic changes in activities, stress and diet. I don't recall where I read that but it was definitely in a medical report. Then again, I'm a big fan of holistic medicine so you shouldn't listen to me. Edit: http://www.usatoday.com/yourlife/health/medical/breastcancer/2010-09-23-mammogram23_st_N.htm I just found this article... mammograms overrated. Umm ******** you? Breast cancer is one of the main killers in women.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 3:05 pm
followed by heat disease yea it is. the statistics don't seem to match the media hype though.
http://www.cancer.org/cancer/breastcancer/overviewguide/breast-cancer-overview-key-statistics
but I'm still sorry for your mother, that's not something I wish upon anyone.
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/12/03/Avoid-Routine-Mammograms-if-You-are-Under-50.aspx
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:06 pm
Modern medicine may not be perfect (no form of medicine is) but it does have a pretty good track record.
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Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:07 pm
I'm a firm believer in mind over matter, always have been, the worst sickness I've had in 10 years was a common cold, and was gone in about a day and a half. i had a four pronged gardening rake that was extremely rusty go through my foot, and the doctor was shocked at how quickly it was healing and said all i would need is rest. i then had a rusty nail go through my foot a few years later, and all i did was put a band aid on it, and it was also completely fine and healed really quickly.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:19 am
Obscurus Modern medicine may not be perfect (no form of medicine is) but it does have a pretty good track record. Track records are created by the media and academia. Here's some of my better experiences with modern medicine: >they applied a cast after a ski accident (although I was the one who had to point out the fracture in the X-RAY because they missed it) >I had a wonderful experience getting my wisdom teeth pulled, was on three different drugs including gas, woke up under a snug blanket frying balls on said drugs, was given a flower and a T shirt. >I received a "donut" scan and and an opiate drip when I had kidney stones (of course I had to wait several hours in horrible agony for someone to bother checking and the ambulance ride was a nightmare) That about sums up my positive experiences. I've had so many bad experiences to enumerate them would be a waste of space, although I can say my worst experiences are so horrible they belong in a movie. My point? I suppose the only thing good about modern medicine is opium and bone setting - two things that existed before medicine was modern. Even the 16th century physician Paracelsus could have administered my "best" medical experiences. That makes me sad.
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 6:01 pm
Hoshioni corn syurp feeds cancer, and they say a high akaline body, cancer cant live in it (<- ill need to look into that myself.) If that's true than I should be dead right now. I consume vast amounts of sugary treats and corn syrupy sodas. Plus, my family is cancer and ailment prone. I wonder what's to witness when the reaper comes a-knockin'? *Laughs at death then...makes friends and helps reap*
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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:13 pm
Michael Noire Obscurus Modern medicine may not be perfect (no form of medicine is) but it does have a pretty good track record. Track records are created by the media and academia. Here's some of my better experiences with modern medicine: >they applied a cast after a ski accident (although I was the one who had to point out the fracture in the X-RAY because they missed it) >I had a wonderful experience getting my wisdom teeth pulled, was on three different drugs including gas, woke up under a snug blanket frying balls on said drugs, was given a flower and a T shirt. >I received a "donut" scan and and an opiate drip when I had kidney stones (of course I had to wait several hours in horrible agony for someone to bother checking and the ambulance ride was a nightmare) That about sums up my positive experiences. I've had so many bad experiences to enumerate them would be a waste of space, although I can say my worst experiences are so horrible they belong in a movie. My point? I suppose the only thing good about modern medicine is opium and bone setting - two things that existed before medicine was modern. Even the 16th century physician Paracelsus could have administered my "best" medical experiences. That makes me sad. Track records for things like medicine, chemistry, physics, whatever aren't determined by the experiences of one or even a few people. They are determined by the total picture and overall, modern medicine has done more good than harm. Have you ever had smallpox? Whooping cough? Measles? Have you ever lost a limb to gangrene? Like I said, modern medicine isn't perfect and no medicine is. Sometimes no matter how well it should work it just doesn't. Sometimes people have bad experiences with medicine. It happens. But what's the alternative?
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:41 pm
Obscurus Michael Noire Obscurus Modern medicine may not be perfect (no form of medicine is) but it does have a pretty good track record. Track records are created by the media and academia. Here's some of my better experiences with modern medicine: >they applied a cast after a ski accident (although I was the one who had to point out the fracture in the X-RAY because they missed it) >I had a wonderful experience getting my wisdom teeth pulled, was on three different drugs including gas, woke up under a snug blanket frying balls on said drugs, was given a flower and a T shirt. >I received a "donut" scan and and an opiate drip when I had kidney stones (of course I had to wait several hours in horrible agony for someone to bother checking and the ambulance ride was a nightmare) That about sums up my positive experiences. I've had so many bad experiences to enumerate them would be a waste of space, although I can say my worst experiences are so horrible they belong in a movie. My point? I suppose the only thing good about modern medicine is opium and bone setting - two things that existed before medicine was modern. Even the 16th century physician Paracelsus could have administered my "best" medical experiences. That makes me sad. Track records for things like medicine, chemistry, physics, whatever aren't determined by the experiences of one or even a few people. They are determined by the total picture and overall, modern medicine has done more good than harm. Have you ever had smallpox? Whooping cough? Measles? Have you ever lost a limb to gangrene? Like I said, modern medicine isn't perfect and no medicine is. Sometimes no matter how well it should work it just doesn't. Sometimes people have bad experiences with medicine. It happens. But what's the alternative? The alternative is magic...and naturalism. XD
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 6:46 pm
Cain Elite Obscurus Michael Noire Obscurus Modern medicine may not be perfect (no form of medicine is) but it does have a pretty good track record. Track records are created by the media and academia. Here's some of my better experiences with modern medicine: >they applied a cast after a ski accident (although I was the one who had to point out the fracture in the X-RAY because they missed it) >I had a wonderful experience getting my wisdom teeth pulled, was on three different drugs including gas, woke up under a snug blanket frying balls on said drugs, was given a flower and a T shirt. >I received a "donut" scan and and an opiate drip when I had kidney stones (of course I had to wait several hours in horrible agony for someone to bother checking and the ambulance ride was a nightmare) That about sums up my positive experiences. I've had so many bad experiences to enumerate them would be a waste of space, although I can say my worst experiences are so horrible they belong in a movie. My point? I suppose the only thing good about modern medicine is opium and bone setting - two things that existed before medicine was modern. Even the 16th century physician Paracelsus could have administered my "best" medical experiences. That makes me sad. Track records for things like medicine, chemistry, physics, whatever aren't determined by the experiences of one or even a few people. They are determined by the total picture and overall, modern medicine has done more good than harm. Have you ever had smallpox? Whooping cough? Measles? Have you ever lost a limb to gangrene? Like I said, modern medicine isn't perfect and no medicine is. Sometimes no matter how well it should work it just doesn't. Sometimes people have bad experiences with medicine. It happens. But what's the alternative? The alternative is magic...and naturalism. XD magic ^_^
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:01 pm
Cain Elite Obscurus Michael Noire Obscurus Modern medicine may not be perfect (no form of medicine is) but it does have a pretty good track record. Track records are created by the media and academia. Here's some of my better experiences with modern medicine: >they applied a cast after a ski accident (although I was the one who had to point out the fracture in the X-RAY because they missed it) >I had a wonderful experience getting my wisdom teeth pulled, was on three different drugs including gas, woke up under a snug blanket frying balls on said drugs, was given a flower and a T shirt. >I received a "donut" scan and and an opiate drip when I had kidney stones (of course I had to wait several hours in horrible agony for someone to bother checking and the ambulance ride was a nightmare) That about sums up my positive experiences. I've had so many bad experiences to enumerate them would be a waste of space, although I can say my worst experiences are so horrible they belong in a movie. My point? I suppose the only thing good about modern medicine is opium and bone setting - two things that existed before medicine was modern. Even the 16th century physician Paracelsus could have administered my "best" medical experiences. That makes me sad. Track records for things like medicine, chemistry, physics, whatever aren't determined by the experiences of one or even a few people. They are determined by the total picture and overall, modern medicine has done more good than harm. Have you ever had smallpox? Whooping cough? Measles? Have you ever lost a limb to gangrene? Like I said, modern medicine isn't perfect and no medicine is. Sometimes no matter how well it should work it just doesn't. Sometimes people have bad experiences with medicine. It happens. But what's the alternative? The alternative is magic...and naturalism. XD Let me know how that works out for you.
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