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chingate

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 1:53 pm


Thought I could share something.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

There you go. Discuss.
(i recommend not reading if you are a Christian, since he goes into great detail about his bloodline's religion. it could make you astray, because most of it makes sense. But after praying and doing some critical thinking it's easy to tell where he is either lying or very misinformed about God's word. If you plan on reading it anyway....read these first.

John 8:44
44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


1 Peter 5:8
8Be self-controlled and alert. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour.


and these: http://www.greatbiblestudy.com/bible_verses.php

Also remember that the Bible does NOT teach us to worship a man. It teaches us to worship the Trinity: God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Jesus was God in human form. Also, pray to God before reading. Ask him if he wants you to see it. If he says that you shouldn't, then don't bother opening it, and go do something else to rid you of your curiosity. )
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:14 pm


Seems like another a-hole we have to deal with.

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chingate

PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 7:48 pm


Cain Elite
Seems like another a-hole we have to deal with.


What do you think about some of the things he said? (assuming he is legit)

Quote:
Q: Now, what "elite" family does anyone know well enough to "despise"? Dubya, is that you?

A: To clear this up once and for all....the Bushs are not bloodline.....in fact, they are your kind who wanted to be worshipped by your kind. I will sum it up again in short, the ones that have known faces/names are not directly bloodline. They are not the composers/conductors, they just play the flute the way they are told to. Bushs, Clintons, Sharons, Arafats, Hitlers, Dalai Lamas, Mandelas, Blairs, Gores, Chavezs, Ghandis, Kennedys, Lennons, Dylans, Einsteins, Michaelangelos, Popes, Ceasars, Aristotles, Herodotus, Akhenatons. They all play/played their part the way they are/were told to. These people who love recognition and praise of your kind would not be allowed to be in the same room with some people I am related to


They told Hitler to do what he did.
PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:12 pm


How do we know this isn't just some basement dweller making s**t up?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 08, 2010 8:33 pm


I'm not believing anything much a person says, when they ignore the essential questions and just go on spouting non sequiturs.
The only thing I could agree with was that earth is a prison...
and maybe this:

Quote:

What is your interpretation of the Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself? A: Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be
involved with.
It is your task to find out.
In fact, if someone gave you the correct answers, it would not mean a thing to you for they would
not be attached to you in a way they would if you would have found them yourself.
If you find the answers to those, you have accomplished a huge part of your duty towards
yourself.
After that your task would be living according to the Divine Law which is revealed to you after
that stage untill departure.

and some of the other Gnostic/reincarnation thought.
I don't really care about links tied in with the government in the first place, though.
It sounds a little touch Thelemic too. Just a bit, not too much though.
You can have gnosis even without listening to whatever this dude says, of course.

Edit: And what's funny is, is that while he says "philosophy, art, etc." is wrong, he ultimately shows it in his posts.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:37 am


Obscurus
How do we know this isn't just some basement dweller making s**t up?

Doom27


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:44 am


Obscurus
How do we know this isn't just some basement dweller making s**t up?

how do we know it's not? wink

Lol.
I don't think it matters either way, does it?
This is what really matters:
http://www.naturalnews.com/029698_censorship_FDA.html
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 12:10 pm


>The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now

>process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".

>study bees

No, I'm pretty sure this is a pile of horse s**t, because the guy clearly does not understand how natural gases and oils are created.

It's a long process over time, and while it does get replenished, it does so at a MUCH slower rate than our use of it. Petrochemicals are created from ancient biomass - the reserves we have now are older than civilization itself. It's renewable in the sense that, eventually, oil will begin to naturally form again, but in the sense and scale of human consumption, it will never, NATURALLY, form fast enough to match our use of it. We use massive amounts of oil every year - and every year, a fraction of that amount comes back.

I pretty much stopped reading at that point, because if the guy has no ******** idea what he's talking about with oil, and if I've already observed his ignorance of history and human nature in general, then I know that everything else he's going to say is probably garbage.

tl;dr this "insider" is a half-cocked crock of s**t. I could come up with more reasonable, believable conspiracy theories.

No offense to the guy who posted it, because the idea is to see, consider, and then accept/deny provided information, but this is information that I'd have to deny on the basis of the "insider" being completely unintelligent.

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chingate

PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:40 pm


The Darth Vizzle
>The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now

>process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".

>study bees

No, I'm pretty sure this is a pile of horse s**t, because the guy clearly does not understand how natural gases and oils are created.

It's a long process over time, and while it does get replenished, it does so at a MUCH slower rate than our use of it. Petrochemicals are created from ancient biomass - the reserves we have now are older than civilization itself. It's renewable in the sense that, eventually, oil will begin to naturally form again, but in the sense and scale of human consumption, it will never, NATURALLY, form fast enough to match our use of it. We use massive amounts of oil every year - and every year, a fraction of that amount comes back.

I pretty much stopped reading at that point, because if the guy has no ******** idea what he's talking about with oil, and if I've already observed his ignorance of history and human nature in general, then I know that everything else he's going to say is probably garbage.

tl;dr this "insider" is a half-cocked crock of s**t. I could come up with more reasonable, believable conspiracy theories.

No offense to the guy who posted it, because the idea is to see, consider, and then accept/deny provided information, but this is information that I'd have to deny on the basis of the "insider" being completely unintelligent.


If you would have read it all then you would have seen where he even claims that we will be miseducated and misguided in schools. What you believe about oil is what you have been taught in school. What we're taught in school is not always true. So he easily could be telling the truth. You also have to remember that he and every other elite member are liars. They constantly try to distract and deceive the masses (which they accomplish very successfully). So he easily could be lying just to mess with the members of GLP and everyone who reads what he had to say.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:20 pm


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Cain Elite
Seems like another a-hole we have to deal with.


What do you think about some of the things he said? (assuming he is legit)

Quote:
Q: Now, what "elite" family does anyone know well enough to "despise"? Dubya, is that you?

A: To clear this up once and for all....the Bushs are not bloodline.....in fact, they are your kind who wanted to be worshipped by your kind. I will sum it up again in short, the ones that have known faces/names are not directly bloodline. They are not the composers/conductors, they just play the flute the way they are told to. Bushs, Clintons, Sharons, Arafats, Hitlers, Dalai Lamas, Mandelas, Blairs, Gores, Chavezs, Ghandis, Kennedys, Lennons, Dylans, Einsteins, Michaelangelos, Popes, Ceasars, Aristotles, Herodotus, Akhenatons. They all play/played their part the way they are/were told to. These people who love recognition and praise of your kind would not be allowed to be in the same room with some people I am related to


They told Hitler to do what he did.
What he says might be true. Many leaders are only figureheads for the real master, but what he speaks only makes me wish to punch him. For if he knows where the Elite exist and hide, I will not cover my eyes when they show me. I shall eliminate all threats.

FOR THE VANGUARD!!!
<-----Ok this part was a joke.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:57 pm


The Darth Vizzle
>The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now

>process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".

>study bees

No, I'm pretty sure this is a pile of horse s**t, because the guy clearly does not understand how natural gases and oils are created.

It's a long process over time, and while it does get replenished, it does so at a MUCH slower rate than our use of it. Petrochemicals are created from ancient biomass - the reserves we have now are older than civilization itself. It's renewable in the sense that, eventually, oil will begin to naturally form again, but in the sense and scale of human consumption, it will never, NATURALLY, form fast enough to match our use of it. We use massive amounts of oil every year - and every year, a fraction of that amount comes back.

I pretty much stopped reading at that point, because if the guy has no ******** idea what he's talking about with oil, and if I've already observed his ignorance of history and human nature in general, then I know that everything else he's going to say is probably garbage.

tl;dr this "insider" is a half-cocked crock of s**t. I could come up with more reasonable, believable conspiracy theories.

No offense to the guy who posted it, because the idea is to see, consider, and then accept/deny provided information, but this is information that I'd have to deny on the basis of the "insider" being completely unintelligent.


There's oil on Saturn's Moon Titan. So were there dinosaurs and forests on it too?
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20080213.html

Discovery backs theory oil not 'fossil fuel'
New evidence supports premise that Earth produces endless supply
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45838
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:42 pm


CellphoneTL
The Darth Vizzle
>The Earth is producing more oil/gas than is being used now

>process "the more you take, the more it produces to balance itself".

>study bees

No, I'm pretty sure this is a pile of horse s**t, because the guy clearly does not understand how natural gases and oils are created.

It's a long process over time, and while it does get replenished, it does so at a MUCH slower rate than our use of it. Petrochemicals are created from ancient biomass - the reserves we have now are older than civilization itself. It's renewable in the sense that, eventually, oil will begin to naturally form again, but in the sense and scale of human consumption, it will never, NATURALLY, form fast enough to match our use of it. We use massive amounts of oil every year - and every year, a fraction of that amount comes back.

I pretty much stopped reading at that point, because if the guy has no ******** idea what he's talking about with oil, and if I've already observed his ignorance of history and human nature in general, then I know that everything else he's going to say is probably garbage.

tl;dr this "insider" is a half-cocked crock of s**t. I could come up with more reasonable, believable conspiracy theories.

No offense to the guy who posted it, because the idea is to see, consider, and then accept/deny provided information, but this is information that I'd have to deny on the basis of the "insider" being completely unintelligent.


If you would have read it all then you would have seen where he even claims that we will be miseducated and misguided in schools. What you believe about oil is what you have been taught in school. What we're taught in school is not always true. So he easily could be telling the truth. You also have to remember that he and every other elite member are liars. They constantly try to distract and deceive the masses (which they accomplish very successfully). So he easily could be lying just to mess with the members of GLP and everyone who reads what he had to say.

So in that case - none of it really matters and that we should only listen to our selves and our own experiences like the guy was telling us to? To follow the cosmic Will of the world by which we experience?
wink

Naynram Ukir


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:53 pm


TrutherMei

There's oil on Saturn's Moon Titan. So were there dinosaurs and forests on it too?
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/cassini/media/cassini-20080213.html

Discovery backs theory oil not 'fossil fuel'
New evidence supports premise that Earth produces endless supply
]http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=45838


Well first of all, no, Saturn's moon does not have petroleum on it. It's methane and ethane - these are hydrocarbons. Petroleum is made up of a variety of hydrocarbons, but that's not what they've found on Saturn. If you read the article, they state very clearly that it's methane. One is not the other; don't get them confused.

The actual point I'm making has doesn't have to do with the fossil fuel theory at all, but with the fact that - in terms of how fast oil is renewed - is that it's a very slow process, in any theory you choose to use. If you look at the results for the extraction of supposedly abiotic hydrocarbons, the result is very small - something like .02 percent per extraction. That's not even relevant on a regional scale of contributing to the use of hydrocarbons - let alone petroleum. Which is my point - even if hydrocarbons are renewed abiotically, even if these are somehow formed into petroleum, it's a very slow process by all accounts, which means that we're not going to get back what we use in a relevant time frame.

No where in EITHER theory does it say that PETROLEUM is renewed as fast as, or faster than, our use of it. Only that the basis for making petroleum, hydrocarbons, like methane are being renewed at an unverified, but apparently slow, rate.

Which means that, last I checked, the Earth is not making more oil than is being used. At least, it's not making it through any means from which we can extract it. If it's making all this oil to replace what we use and it's stuck guts-deep in the mantle, I'd consider that a null and void response because it's not usable, and doesn't even fit the context here.

Which lends itself to my original statement: That we're not getting back what we use in a timeframe that's useful for us, and certainly not as fast as implied by the "insider."

Cellphone: That's a pretty convenient cop-out. If anything, that only supports my idea that the guy is just some neckbeard basement dweller writing this s**t up to mess with people, because it's really convenient that he "could be lying" which means "I can say whatever the ******** I want because I'm using my context as an "insider" as a basis of "authority" without actually providing any such authenticity."

That's the same sort of thing a two-bit tarot card reader says too; it's all open to interpretation, maybe it's this. maybe it's that. They're totally authentic when you pay them the money, but it's all up to you to work it out. That's how con artists work. I can do it too, and in fact I have. It's not that hard to craft a believable "theory" when you provide a few hooks to get people in and then use a fictional basis of being "in the know" to make it seem authentic.

In other words, it's a half-cocked crock of s**t. There are conspiracy theories that have some basis in truth, or that could possibly be going in the right directions. This does not sound like one of them.

As I said: information presented is meant to be viewed, thought upon, and then affirmed or denied. I choose to deny it, because I'm not seeing anything that fits together or even remotely comes across as authentic.

If someone else chooses to bite the hook, metaphorically speaking, that's their decision.
PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:45 pm


OK I finally read the whole thing, it was interesting but seemed he was more interested in explaining the purpose of life to us than dispelling/denying Illuminati/NWO conspiracy theories. The part about us creating the NWO by visualization and waking people up scared me, but still doesn't seem correct. By us becoming aware of what the elite are supposedly doing to us, shouldn't make what they are doing come true. Isn't it better that we are aware so we can warn people and stop things like Bills and laws that would harm us? Yay for confusing messages that make me question what I'm doing -_-!

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:17 pm


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OK I finally read the whole thing, it was interesting but seemed he was more interested in explaining the purpose of life to us than dispelling/denying Illuminati/NWO conspiracy theories. The part about us creating the NWO by visualization and waking people up scared me, but still doesn't seem correct. By us becoming aware of what the elite are supposedly doing to us, shouldn't make what they are doing come true. Isn't it better that we are aware so we can warn people and stop things like Bills and laws that would harm us? Yay for confusing messages that make me question what I'm doing -_-!

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